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The 'Bigger Picture' Of UNBC's Bioenergy Plant

By Michelle Cyr-Whiting

Saturday, March 26, 2011 03:56 AM

Tour participants go for a first-hand look at the plant following the official opening

Prince George, B.C. -  The new bioenergy plant at UNBC will serve a larger purpose than to just reduce the university's carbon footprint - the technology has very real implications for whole communities...

On a busy day, the campus can swell to 5,000 people.  UNBC's Assistant Director of Facilities, Doug Carter, points out that's a Mackenzie or a Chetwynd.  He says the ground-breaking thermal heating system will act as a model for small communities.

Carter says the university's enhanced forestry lab has been running on wood biomass pellets for almost two years and that data has its own implications.  "We probably have enough capacity in that little system to heat a community centre, school or something like that."

"(The bioenergy plant) system is sending down to a central plant which is heating one-million square feet of buildings - and we're talking labs, offices, and everything - and this is a template for a small city, a distributed energy system."

Carter says it's typical of what's already being done in many European communities, where a central plant sends the high temperature water out and instead of having a gas or electrical meter in front of the house, it's an energy meter that measures the hot water going in, the temperature and flow of the water coming out - it will generate a gigajoule number and people are billed for how many gigajoules of hot water they use.

In speaking to a tour group last week, UNBC's Energy Manager, David Claus, pointed out that one of the variables in determining the 'payback' of installing such a system is the cost of labour to maintain it.  "It's a bit of an unknown and that's part of the reason we're putting this in," he says.  "Right now, if you're a private company and you're putting one of these in - or you're a community - your only option is to go to the vendor and get their information on what it takes and, of course, they're in the business of selling systems."

Claus says, "We don't know, we'll see.  We're going to run it for a year or two and then we'll have a better picture of how much extra labour it takes to run it and then that data will be available - it's part of our mandate as a research-intensive university."

The Energy Manager says that's one of the strengths of UNBC - it is always integrating its operations with its research.  "The university has taken what it needs to do anyway with its operations and brought its researchers on-board, given them access to the data and worked together - we keep the place warm and we're producing useful data."


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The "Bigger Picture" is that this system stands in contravention of the PG Clean Air Bylaw banning wood-fired hydronic heating systems within city limits. If UNBC can do it, homeowners should be able to as well. We all know high-eff. european gasification boilers are available to homeowners as well. This is just another $$$green$$$ shaft. Its "green" when UNBC burns wood, but dirty when a homeowner does it - we get to pay for natural gas instead, whoohoo.
"UNBC's Energy Manager, David Claus, pointed out that one of the variables in determining the 'payback' of installing such a system is the cost of labour to maintain it. "It's a bit of an unknown and that's part of the reason we're putting this in," he says"

Huh? All this after they say what many others already know, that there are many communities that have such plants.

It is using hot water, for God's sake. The College buildings have been using hot water for almost 4 decades with steam for the original buildings of the vocational school. There is a "utilidor" running to connect all the buildings.

The same with the hospital.

Most universities in Canada that are far larger than UNBC have them. Carleton built wider utilidors to connect all their buildings when it was first established at the new campus in 1953. Those utilidors became the "tunnels" which connected the buildings to allow people to move among the buildings during the winter months if they so chose.

The main downtown campus of U of Toronto has a population of betwwwn 50 and 60 thousand. Their cetnralized steam plant was built in 1912. A tunnel system was created to distribute the steam to the various buildings on campus. As the campus grew, so too did the vast network of underground tunnels.

Look at any university in Canada and one would be looking at the same thing. What is new here is the fuel source.

"Right now, if you're a private company and you're putting one of these in - or you're a community - your only option is to go to the vendor and get their information on what it takes and, of course, they're in the business of selling systems."

Come on!!!!!

And UNBC is obviously in the business of selling the notion that they are doing something new and different. At least tell us which part is new and different and which part of the system you can get tons of information from UBC and other campuses across the country of what the maintenance costs are.

Please!!!!!
You know, the Internet is an amazing literature searching tool. I wish UNBC would learn how to use it properly.

www.fuelsforschools.info/pdf/FFS-U_of_I_Wood_Chip_Story.pdf

University of Idaho, Moscow campus.

The following was written in 2006.

"In 1978 Latah County, where Moscow and the University of Idaho are located, started looking for a new landfill site. Several studies were done which included information from the University. Proposals for a co-generation plant using land fill material for fuel did not develop but the University was also looking for a back up boiler for their campus heating system. The studies indicated a biomass fueled heating plant would be economical. In 1986 the University contracted to have a biomass fueled boiler constructed. Wood chips, hog fuel, were selected as the primary fuel for the new boiler.

"As the new boiler was brought on line to produce high pressure steam to heat seventy percent (three million square feet) of campus building space and provide hot water it was found the biomass operation was very economical. Instead of being used as a back up boiler as planned, the biomass boiler became the lead boiler. It is run 95% of the time.

"Currently the University estimates heating costs, using the biomass fueled boiler, are between one quarter to one third the costs of heating with natural gas. They also have three natural gas fired boilers in their Steam Plant. Two years after construction of the biomass boiler they “mothballed” one of the gas fired boilers. That was eighteen years ago and it’s still mothballed. In 2003, the wood fired boiler was shut down for a week to do routine cleaning and maintenance. Up to shutdown the University was burning $1700 per day in cedar chips. While the wood boiler was down, natural gas for the backup boiler cost $7000 per day."

So how many more campuses are there in forested states? Vermont? New Hampshire? Georgia?

Maybe that is a research project for UNBC. Where are there kindred spirits and how can they learn from each other? Wow!!! Such a unique concept! Then please do share it with all of us.
How much deisel is burnt supplying UNBC with natural gas? How much desiel is burnt supplying UNBC with pellets? Isn't natural gas a bioenergy fuel? It's 95% methane and considered a clean energy from a Natural source, hense the name natural gas.

Green energy is a marketing money grabbing scam folks. Global warming isn't something we can control. Global warming causes the earth's largest CO2 storage tank (The oceans) to release CO2. Global cooling causes the oceans to store CO2.

So sit back, relax and enjoy the palm trees.
Ah yes, Maine of course!

"Franklin Pierce University announced today that installation of the school’s new wood pellet thermal heating systems has begun, bringing the University another step closer to establishing itself as one of the first educational institutions to heat its buildings with clean burning wood pellets" October 2009

http://beta.franklinpierce.edu/about/news/pr_woodpelletinstall.htm

I note the need to be "first" or "one of the first".

I do not know what is the driver of that notion. Those words always make we suspicious from the start.

One so rarely sees

"We have studied several different installations and have decided the one at ABCD is the ideal one for us based on its reliability as well as the institute's committment to research and system improvement. We have worked out a joint agreement towards researching next generations of the system so that they can be applied at more locations."
Yes Gus I am with you on this. I just cannot see what is so special about this plant, what is the excitment all about? I have trade qualifications as a power engineer, stationary and combined marine and so see nothing new here. I suspect it is all about the funding, throw in the words green, climate change, carbon, or is that carbon dioxide, a plant fertilzer, Michelle seems confused, anyhow funding seems unlimited. In my work experience I see nothing new here.

UNBC did you know that just over on the other side of the river there are three pulp mills that have been burning wood wast, sorry bio energy for decades. Being for profit ventures they just might have a handle on the costs of wood burning, again sorry, bio energy. All you have to do is ask.

This green scam thing sure is costing us money.
UNBC, you are doing nothing new, central Power Plant supplying Steam or Hotwater to all the Buildings that is really on old Hat, using Woodpellets must be costly, may as well burn Woodwaste like the Mills used to, some still do and saving a lot of Cash.
Up on the Hill you must think you invented sliced Bread.
Ok,just comments please not 3 page essays
By the way all the use of hot water radiant heating is not new to UNBC. The technology used is new. No other bioenergy plan has emissions as low as this project. In fact the particulate matter released is lower than natural gas. I'll say it again... do a tour of the facility and get all the facts before posting ignorant essays. http://www.unbc.ca/green/energy.html
Backlit, you forgot about the emmissions to get that wood waste to the plant and the emissions to process the pellets. Now with spring well on it's way how about the dust particulate those trucks stir up delivering the pellets?

Backlit the emmissions are not much lower than natural gas and the plant needs gas backup when colder than 12 below. With that information I smell a rat. My house being newer the furnace hardly runs when temps. above freezing. From middle May to middle Sep. my furnace will hardly run. Now at 10 below and colder its run time starts to markedly increase. So that tells me the woodburning, sorry bio plant may not be pumping out all that much heat at times and wide open other times in relation to my furnace, so with gas backup just how much emissions are being released.

Also as had been said earlier, what about the emissions from transportation and pellet manufacturing. Is that factored in.

I am not saying burning wood wast is not a positive thing, just do not make it something it ain't

Follow the money. Money trees are green.
Backit wrote: "do a tour of the facility and get all the facts before posting ignorant essays"

Do you even read anything loner than a sentence? I am sorry, you are starting to sound like the quote from David Claus: "Right now, if you're a private company and you're putting one of these in - or you're a community - your only option is to go to the vendor and get their information on what it takes and, of course, they're in the business of selling systems."

Which, of course, begs the question of waht are you and David Claus in the business of selling.

I am not ignorant of what is happening with respect to modern biomass energy use. If I were, I would not be posting.

One more article that I think sums up the use of biomass in community energy systems over decades. I applaud UNBC for putting a system in. But please don't treat those of us that have been following this trend for some time as if we are neophytes.
http://www.canadianbiomassmagazine.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1676&Itemid=132

From that article, once more with feeling:
"Biomass-fired district heating is common in Scandinavia, especially in Sweden, where some 270 of 290 urban communities have district heating systems that use biomass as a principal energy source. They are also common in Finland, Denmark, and Austria, where there are aggressive programs to meet Kyoto targets and policy frameworks to support the development of biomass energy."

Where do you think we send our pellets to, Backit? I know in PG it is used mainly for kitty litter and a few home systems. The rest go to some of those very communities mentioned in the article as primary firing sources.

Did you know that Charlottetown has the largest district heating system in Canada? I did not. So one learns something new each time. Do you think they might know how much it costs to maintain the system?

Anyway, enough of this BS.

As they say these days, it is what it is.
I'm angry about this.
I wonder if there are any Wood Innovation Centres around the world that we could learn from??

Probably not. It would be much better to build our own, and then ask the question. That way we can spend the money, give out the contracts, and take the credit for being **leaders** in Wood Innovation.