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Fluoride Issue Returns to Council

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Monday, April 04, 2011 07:52 PM

Graph  presented to Council illustrates drop in  tooth decay rates with or without  fluoride
 
Prince George, B.C. -  The Safe Water Coalition has once again stated its case to City Council of Prince George, asking that the City stop the practice of adding fluoride to the City’s drinking water.
 
Mayor Dan Rogers invited the four  members of the Coalition to the centre table in Council Chambers, and, as is customary, told the speakers  there was water at either end of the table for their  use. 
 
There were no takers.
 
 
The Safe Water Coalition presented information from a number of reports which cite a variety of studies of health issues linked to different levels of fluoridation.  The studies  presented noted lowered IQ in children with borderline iodine deficiency when the fluoride is 0.9ppm,  to studies which  concluded there was a lowering of thyroid activity in the Ukraine when the level was 2.3 ppm.
 
The amount of fluoride added to the City of Prince George water supply is 0.7 ppm.
 
The argument placed before City Council  focused on three points:
1) Is it effective in preventing cavities?
2) Is it safe?
3) Is it ethical?
 
In his presentation to Council, Dr. James Beck, Professor Emeritus of Medical Biophysics at the University of Calgary and co-author of “The Case Against Fluoride”, said the first two are scientific questions “The first of which is not very difficult to answer; the second of which is complex and not completely proven one way or the other; and the third question is one we can judge without special training.”
 
 Dr.Beck  says  the questionof ethics is clear "fluoridation fails to meet the following requirements of medical ethics: the drug must have been approved for specific use by a qualified body (usually governmental); the dose must be controlled; the recipient must have given informed consent; the effects on the individual must be monitored by a competent professional; and the recipient must be able to stop the administration at will. In fact, a city council that imposes fluoridation is doing what a licensed physician or dentist is not allowed to do."
 
This is the second time the Safe Water Coalition has appeared before this  particular Council.  They appeared in late summer of 2009, at which time, Council  thanked them for their  presentation and  said  they would stick with status quo.
 
It costs  the City  of Prince George  about $70 thousand a year for  the fluoride and the infrastructure.  The amount  added to the Prince George water supply is 0.7 ppm, that is  less than half of the Health Canada limit of 1.5 ppm.
As for its legal  stand, the City of Prince George  had authorization  under the Provincial legislation  "Municipalities and Enabling Act"  when the City started adding fluoride in 1955.
 
Councillor Munoz says while  she understands the  Coalition would like to have  Council  decide to  stop the fluoridation process, she says she doesn't feel she can make that kind of decision for the entire community  when it's a public health matter.
 
Councillor Garth Frizzell  says he is  compelled by the  fluoride  panel, "I haven't found anything that speaks vividly against this.  When health issues are brought up they are important to us, but when a body of evidence is brought up,  the weight of evidence is in favour of fluoridation."
 
Mayor Dan Rogers  says as  Council has dealt with this issue over the years, "We're not the experts," said Mayor Rogers,  who said  Council yields to the  expertise of the medical professionals in the community for advice on matters of health.
"It strikes me that part of this discussion shouldn't be taken here, but should be with those in the community who are instructed to  protect the public's health" added the Mayor.
 
In February, Council in Calgary voted (10-3) in favour of removing fluoride from their city’s water supply. That vote followed a day long input session with the public.   It should be noted though, that in addition to whatever health issue arguments were made , the City of Calgary spends about $750 thousand a year on fluoridation, and would soon be facing a multi- million dollar fluoridation system upgrades  to its main water treatment plants.

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Stop poisoning people against their will. End fluoridation of our drinking water and use the money to help people quit smoking or to lose weight.

Will it take a class action lawsuit to end this madness?
We need to follow the money and see who is benefitting from this BS.
Well, at least this time around the mayor and the some of the councilors seemed to actually be more open minded to examine some of the evidence which is mounting against fluoridation and the argument that fluoride is a drug and that drugs should not be administered to a person without that person's consent and without proper supervision.

We may applaud them for that, but there is still a long battle ahead to just let us have normal unmedicated water.

The issue will not go away and thankfully B.C. is already 96% fluoride addition free, with P.G. being the last larger city to be still hanging on.

I wish I wasen't stuck in this stupid city!!
Dear Ben,
Please read dragonmasters posts on this.
Then, do that thing you do so well and find that answer.
The City of Fairbanks, Alaska has responded to critics of fluoridation by creating a panel of local experts and tasking it with answering the relevant questions: is fluoridation safe and effective.

Last month, after a year of study, the panel announced its findings: stop the fluoride; it causes more harm than good. Read the (pdf) report here:

http://www.smalllinks.com/SJ2

Or go the city's web site and see the additional information it is presenting to its citizens.

http://www.ci.fairbanks.ak.us/index.php

To learn about the evidence used to educate and inform the panel, see:
www.fluoridefreefairbanks.org.

Fluoridation is built on a false premise. Do not let your council members off the hook; demand that they educate themselves.

Fluoride Free Fairbanks

Thank you for the links, greenguy!

http://www.ci.fairbanks.ak.us/index.php

I am convinced that with Prince George it will be only a matter of waiting a bit longer until the fluoride addition is stopped!

The health, legal and ethical risks are simply too great to keep doing something which shouldn't be done and when an overwhelming number of communities have stopped it already or have never had it in the first place!

B.C. is already 96% fluoride addition free!

Let's make it 100% and be done with it!

I find it very strange that every time one of these special interest groups try to justify their thinking, they bring a "specialist" from somewhere else. Why don't they believe the medical professionals in our city? Do they think the dentists here are all stupid and do they go to Calgary to get their teeth fixed? Just wondering.
On the contrary, Duffer! I have talked to many anti-fluoridation people and I have yet to hear one even one saying that dentists are stupid! Dentists are concerned with dental matters and as such have evidence that topical application/treatment of the teeth in their office has a benefits as long as none of the fluoride is swallowed and digested.

Dentistry is a highly respected profession and it helps people to have not only better teeth but also through better teeth and gums a healthier body.

It is the daily ingestion of fluoride through fluoridated tap water into the whole human body that has a lot of people concerned and worried. Dentists do not examine internal organs, the thyroid, kidneys, the skeleton and the joints. This is a matter for different branches of medical science.

Evidence is mounting that long term consumption of fluoridated tap water has undesirable side effects to the above mentioned parts of the human body.

Nobody is trying to unfairly criticize the dental profession. It does a great job and deserves respect.

But people who do not wish to have the drug fluoride added to their daily drinking water and their daily shower also deserve respect!

The dosage of fluoride is uncontrolled and it is not even allowed in Canada that a person is medicated without proper supervision of a physician.

If a person drinks two glasses of tap water a day he/she gets a certain amount of fluoride. A person who drinks eight glasses gets 4 times the amount, and so forth. There is no control of the daily dosage!

About half of the fluoride is excreted via the kidneys but the other half accumulates in the organs of the human body and what this accumulation does as far as damage over time has lately come under closer scrunity.

Fluoride is not a harmless chemical. It is highly corrosive and it affects cells in the human body wherever it ends up.

People ought to have a right to clean unmedicated drinking water, especially in this world which already assaults us from many different directions with other less avoidable pollutants.

Those who wish to use fluoridated tooth paste and have fluoride treatments at the dentist office still have the choice to do so.

Nobody is trying to restrict their choice to have fluoride, so nobody should force fluoride on others who wish to exercize their free choice NOT to have it.

Very well said PrinceGeorge!
The board of the Santa Clara Valley Water District (in California) held a public meeting March 22nd on water fluoridation. This summer they are scheduled to vote on whether or not to fluoridate the water supply. The board and their staff were given 20 copies of a 75-minute cd of doctors explaining the history, origin, and health hazards of this toxic waste. Doctors included John Lee, John Yiamouyannis, and Phyllis Mullenix. The audio is posted at the website http://www.MaeBrussell.com. Just go to the bottom of the homepage.

If people were to burn a cd of that audio and spread it around (especially to churches, schools, health food stores and health clubs) you might find it very effective in waking up the public in your area. Good luck.
sun storm, I agree that PrinceGeorge does put words to paper very well. However, I think he/she must be a politician because he/she is not answering my question as to why every special interest group always has to bring someone from somewhere else to try and convince us the sky is falling. There are medical doctors in our community as well, qutite a few of them. I have yet to hear from one of own about this subject. Have they even been asked?
Dr. James Beck, Professor Emeritus of Medical Biophysics at the University of Calgary happens to be living in Calgary. He is a scientist. Medical doctors abound in Prince George but none of them has done eleven years of research into the subject of water fluoridation like Dr. Beck has.

I am sure that duffer attended his book signing event at Books and Co. and the presentations he gave at the CNC lecture hall and before City Council.

Therefore, duffer must have received a great amount of information about the subject and I am puzzled why duffer came to the conclusion that someone (it isn't the Safe Water Coalition!) that the "sky is falling."

I think that this expression is used by duffer who wants to ridicule those who have a scientifically based opinion which happens to be different from duffer.

I have no idea what other "special interest" groups are doing or what they have been doing. That is THEIR business and who cares?

The City regularly brings in experts from other towns to do engineering studies before certain projects get the go-ahead.

The City employes its own engineers! It just so happens that there are certain subjects in which engineers from outside the city have greater training and experience than city engineers!

Anything wrong with that? No? Then what is wrong with bringing in Dr. Beck who happens to be a first class respected authority?

Progress goes in three steps:

First: Ridicule.
Second: Education through science.
Third: Enthusiastic change & adoption.

Now you have a clear explanation as to why an out of town eminent expert and his scientific knowledge was brought to town!
PROFESSIONALS' STATEMENT: As of April 5, 2011:

3,637 Medical, Scientific, and Environmental Professionals Sign Statement Calling for End to Fluoridation Worldwide

• 646 Nurses (RN, MSN, BSN, CNS, ARNP, APRN, LNC, RGON)
• 528 DC's (Doctor of Chiropractic, includes M Chiro)
• 453 PhD's - includes DSc (Doctor of Science); EdD (Doctor of Education); DrPH (Doctor of Public Health)
• 393 MD's (includes MBBS)
• 308 Dentists (DDS, DMD, BDS)
• 153 ND's (Doctor of Naturopathic Medicine)
• 82 Lawyers (JD, LLB, Avvocato)

(from the Fluoride Action Network).