Should we be surprised?? after all we are talking bout the RCMP..

Well let's see. He stabbed a 37 yr old man, he came out of the house with a knife! What are they supposed to do, ask his age first before they subdue him?

Maybe they should of punched him in the face? Sicked the dog on him?

I would like to know all of the details. How big a kid was he? My nephew broke 6' before his 12th birthday. Was he threating with the knife? Perhaps he was about to stab himself?
There are no details available but all of the RCMP bashers sure like to go off prematurely...

once again - lost in the story is the victim. hope the stabbing victim is ok

once again - lost in the story is the victim. hope the stabbing victim is ok

Stabbing victim is ok from what i've heard.

I guess they should have just given him a hug and worried about everything else afterwards.

As noseverence said we have to wait for the whole story. But the police have brought the suspicians of their conduct upon themselves from past events. The attempted Dziekanski coverup, Ian Bush just to name a couple.

Still makes the fuzz seem mighty feeble, not wanting to take on a young kid. It is not right to make the kneejerk conclusion that all cops are bad, or cowardly.

I would suppose that the attending members (now THAT sounds kinky) merely followed rcmp protocol in subduing a menace to themselves and society.

Having given that basic assumption to the officers, I have to say that it seems pretty ridiculous that grown men and women who have been trained (have they not?) to deal with all manner of unruly persons, even if only in self defense, would use the Chicken defense to control a child. What would police officers in 1975 have done? No "conducted energy weapon" to deploy, so I suppose they would have been reduced to hand wringing, and pleas to the child, to please put down the knife.
metalman.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/04/11/taser-boy-inquiry-braidwood.html?ref=rss

A bit more background. May be the youngest person ever tasered in Canada.

Another investigation is going on in Vancouver where police shot someone on a bicycle. No weapons found on the person.

On the news, when these things happen, and people complain about the police investigating themselves, they keep saying there nothing else in place.

Shirley Bond is the Solicitor General. I beleive that puts her in a position to be able to change that. Maybe the media can ask her if this is on her radar.

Wait for the facts. Too many people making presumptions about how, what, or why. It will all unfold as the bad news story has gained the attention of media outlets across Canada (once again).

We can't really form judgement without knowing all the facts.Maybe the cops had bad intel when they arrived,maybe the cop was standing outside the door when the suspect stepped outside,and zapped him immediately to disarm him.Only the people who were their know the true situation and events,the only way one can really know how to react to an event is to be in that situation themselves.It is still hard to grasp as to why the cops had to taser an eleven year old boy?They can't make a move nowadays without being under the scrutiny of the media and the public,and it can only make there job to carry out there duties,even more difficult than it was before.

The kid is 11 years old. He stabbed another person. He will get a slap on the wrist, and maybe some inconvenient court dates. Maybe this is the one thing that will teach him a lesson. If you don't want to get hurt, don't stab someone.

Hopefully there were enough non biased witnesses to the whole thing. Otherwise we know how this will end.

The kid is 11 years old. He stabbed another person. He will get a slap on the wrist, and maybe some inconvenient court dates. Maybe this is the one thing that will teach him a lesson. If you don't want to get hurt, don't stab someone.

Lets just remember this was a child! Not a teenager,not a young adult, but a child! There is no scenario in which a child should be tasered.

These devices have never been tested on children and are contraversial as to whether or not they're even safe to use on adults.

I'll bet the only thing in the police manual with regards to children and tasers is "don't do it".

I'm amazed at the poor judgment the RCMP in this area continue to use.

The next thing that will happen is that we will have to register all our knives.

Here we have an 11 yr old out of control boy who knows what kind of size he is or what state of mind he's in who has just stabbed a full grown male who is still in the hospital. The boy comes outside towards the police with the knife in his hand. Why did he not obey commands to put it down?
Would you have rather had the Constable use his sidearm and shoot the lad?
Does anyone have any idea the damage a crazy person wielding a knife can do to a person, even a trained cop who thinks they can simply disarm them in a hand to hand sitation? I know and I've seen trained fighters get sliced to ribbons by others with edged weapons with no fighting skills at all.

The cop did what he had to do. If you don't like it Try being a cop for a few weeks.

As for the rcmp member who had to deploy the tazer: don't worry buddy, so what if it goes to court, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. ALSO keep in mind the boy was in a GROUP home...don't know his background, but I suspect he was no angel.

An 11 yr old child cannot be criminally responsible in Canada; age 12. I do not see the significance between the child stabbing the adult group home worker, and what the police did to the child ! A lot of people are assuming the child still had the knife when approached by the police. It would make for a very different story if the child was not armed when he got tazered an hour after the stabbing. Hhhmm !

So find out if he is a Canadian citizen and if he isn't get rid of him now. Don't wait 10 years.

He was armed Boon. And it is irrelevant whether or not he was 11 or 12...criminal responsibility has nothing to do with it. Its called safety and protecting one's life and that of another if need be, even the kid's. Bet you'd be harping another tune if the kid shanked you.

Forget the criminal is eleven years old. He has a weapon, and is willing to use it. What could the RCMP do. The safest thing to do, is to taser him. Thats my opinion with the information that is available.

So if the RCMP, were to have manhandled the kid, the allegations flying around would be a heck of a lot worse.

The kid is not your typical snot nosed kid that we image it as. He naturally already developed a meaness in his heart, he wants to commit a crime of attempted murder, so he should be treated like a criminal.

Boon, so what your saying is any 11 year old can run around and shoot at you, and you have to take it. Not me, I will line him up in the cross hairs. Dead people don't talk.

Sorry Boon, I don't think you realized he did have the knife when he appeared to meet the officer.

"lets just remember this was a child! Not a teenager,not a young adult, but a child!"

Give me a freaking break!!!! The 11 year old "child" had just stabbed a 37 year old man and sent him to hospital. Did you miss that part or did you think the "child" was just playing hide and seek with his friends when the RCMP officer stumbled upon him?

11 year old "children" are gang members in this town. 11 year old "children" sell drugs in this town. 11 year old "children" rob, assault and rape people in this town. And it case you missed it AGAIN, this 11 year old "child" had just stabbed someone with a knife.

lmorge is right. 11 years old or not, all it takes is one quick swipe or stab and that 11 year old kills the person trying to apprehend them. The RCMP are fully justified in using force to stop someone who is wielding a weapon. Better the taser than a billy club to the head or a 9MM slug. Just my opinion.

If I had my choice between a cop shooting me with a tazer or disarming me by force, I'll take the tazer everytime. It will be short lived pain.

Police training involving defense against a knife ranges from breaking my wrist, kicking me in the groin, deflecting me and choking me from behind, and of course the ever popular shooting me in the chest.

Do a little research on the net and all the experts agree - disarming someone with a knife is not easy, not safe.

Had the officer used self defense techniques, the headline would be reading - cop chokes kid, cop breaks kids wrist, cop kicks kid in groin, cop breaks kids knee cap, cop breaks kids shin.

And, if the officer didn't successfully disarm the kid, the headline would be, officer stabbed, kid get's his gun, police shoot kid after kid shoots at police.

I'll wait to hear the whole story but I can think of a lot of reasons to tazer a child, including it might be the safest way to subdue him for both the police and the child.

He was armed Boon. And it is irrelevant whether or not he was 11 or 12...criminal responsibility has nothing to do with it. Its called safety and protecting one's life and that of another if need be, even the kid's. Bet you'd be harping another tune if the kid shanked you.

Heres a thought from another viewpoint:
Maybe the 37 yr. old man deserved to be stabbed, what if he tried to molest the little bugger and received his comeuppance in return? Still does not explain why the kid still had a knife in his hand when the cops arrived, as most on this forum seem to agree, we don't have enough information.

Imorge, what would an RCMP officer have done in this situation in 1980, 1975, or 1964? (you know, before high tech weapons, before we had such a gang problem, before the cops even had computers in their cruisers.
No Taser, probably not even a protective vest, not worn anyway, I firmly believe that a cop back then would have subdued the kid, and I assume that the cop would not have been injured in the process, but would the kid have suffered an injury??
Always assuming the kid looks like a kid and not like some wizened dwarf with a hump and an evil laugh.
metalman.

I mentioned criminal responsibility being age 12 as pg383 said the kid would just get a slap on the wrist. The kid will get nothing, he can't by Canadian law. I have read the same press releases as everyone else. I agree he stabbed somebody, but no where has it been said he still had the knife an hour later when the police approached. In fact the police are not answering that specific question. In addition, everyone is assuming this is a normal 11 yr old kid who responds and understands adults. What if he is not a normal kid? Hhhhmmmm . Time will tell !

I'm betting that the victim will not be allowed to publicly state what really happened. If he does, the RCMP will look pretty red faced again.

I'm betting that the victim will not be allowed to publicly state what really happened. If he does, the RCMP will look pretty red faced again.