Wow, the teachers want to go out and break more laws.
I do NOT feel any sympathy for the law breakers.
Let them walk out....then fire them all. And hire new teachers who would be happy to have a job.

It disgusts me that these people who claim to be educators, can blatantly break the laws of our land. Yet stil be allowed to teach.
Jail them as an example to the students that crime does not pay.
Not letting the teachers set an example saying "See kids, if youi break the law, you get more money and stuff"

A criminal record and say 5 years in prison each, may teach the morons a lesson.

Truly disgraceful !!!!!!!!!!!

Just curious how the "teachers" take a strike vote. The teacher I know said she was always pressured into voting for strike, but how is it done? Who audits the results and how private is the voting? Is there time for rational thought or more of a lynch mob atmosphere?
Teachers can't be fired, we don't have leader with balls the size of Ronald Ragan - he fired all the air traffic controllers in the USA, and everyone thought he couldn't do it. And guess what, everything worked out just fine.

The difference in Canada, - Affirmitive Action means increased taxation. Hee Hee!!

It wouldn't be illegal this time. This is a legal strike vote taken in contract negotiations. A strike based on it would be a legal strike, unless, of course, the Liberal government decides once again to show their contempt for free collective bargaining and pass legislation ordering them back to work.

Also, all strike votes in BC are conducted according to rules laid down by the Labour Relations Board. Those rules allow for ANYBODY in the bargaining unit to express an opinion as to how to vote. That includes both democratically elected union leaders and ordinary members. Perhaps your friend thinks anyone who doesn't agree with her should keep their mouth shut and give up their right to democratic free speach. She is obviously exercising hers.

Actually teachers can be fired, but only for cause and not on a whim. That applies to anyone else in the public sector. All that managers have to do is prove it was legally justified. That is usually the problem, it usually is not legally justifiable. I don't actually know the size of Reagan's balls, but I do know he had Alzheimer's and was an idiot. He had no compunction about jeopardising the lives of hundreds of thousands of air travellers just make a point. He was lucky no plane crashed.

Let us not conveniently ignore the fact that the NDP regime also "showed contempt for free collective bargaining" and legislated various workers in both the private and public sectors back to work on several occasions.

It is the same NDP regime that in some believers' opinion seems to be the all-knowing, all-compassionate and all-wise epitome of purity in thought and action, above criticism and democratic scrutiny.

I am surprised that there are no NDP door knockers, Jehovah's Witness style.

The last time the teachers were forced back to work and fined. The Liberals Goverment then tried to give themselfs a 25 percent raise, Why not give a decent raise to the teachers?????

They definitely should get a decent raise.

And they should not only compare themselves to provinces where teachers on average make more, but also to provinces where teachers on average make LESS.

Somewhere between those extremes should be found a common ground for an honourable settlement, if it is affordable.

Illegal strikes are not something that the public (i.e. the taxpayers) are very supportive of.

The legal strike option of course is within their rights, so it may come down to that again.

Correct me if I am wrong here.
was education not deemed and essential service?
And if yes, its illegal to strike is it not?

You guys that are always whining about giving the teachers, or anyone else for that matter, a decent raise would like to see most of the work force make $8.00 per hour. You guys are either very wealthy or make nothing yourself. Did you know the cost of living has gone up considerably in the past 4 years?

P.S. Srike all you want for what you and others deserve. Keep the money in our pockets instaed of Campbell and companies friends.

OK, here's the correction Marty. It is a common misconception that being an "essential service" means it is illegal to strike. That is not true. Employees in essential services, health care workers in hospitals for instance, may strike but have to make sure certain designated services are still provided. These designated services are determined by the Labour Relations Board in conjunction with the union and employer when a strike is imminent. Any services not designated may be legally withdrawn - a strike.

Diplomat, what the NDP may or may not have done several years ago is pretty much irrelevant to the current situation. I would remind you that the Liberals won the last election, so they will determine what legislation is introduced, not the NDP. The contempt for collective bargaining I had in mind was the collective agreement with health care workers that the Liberals agreed to with CUPE, then reneged, cancelled and cut 15%. That kind of contempt was never shown by the NDP.

ammonra says - "..jeopardising the lives of hundreds of thousands of air travellers just make a point. He was lucky no plane crashed."
I was a pilot at the time and fully supported Regan's actions. There was no increase in risk, and probably saved lives by getting those ATC union prigs out on the street, and putting in people whose first priority was safety.
Same goes for the teachers, fire the ones that toe the union line and the public and kids will benefit. The crap they are peddling about union teachers being special is just that.

You know there are so many people out there that think the world revolves around them, and others like ammonra that run around screaming that the sky is falling when something changes, that the public really needs strong leadership once in awhile, especially when things like the teachers stink gets too silly. Lots of people like to dump on Regan and Campbell, but that's OK it's the job they are supposed to do, not who loves them. It's a thankless job if you are weak enough to need to please everyone.
I'm sure ammonra and acrider54 have asked themselves where the counrty would be if they had the reins of power for 10 years. At the end of 10 years we'd all be burning our homes to stay warm.

Ammonra, you wish to heck that people have amnesia when it comes to remembering things that the NDP did in the past - well, you can tell people that what happened in the past has no relevance to what is happening today but nobody is going to believe you, not even those who always support your agenda, disregarding plain evidence that in the real world facts are facts and wishful thinking is wishful thinking.

I think that since this whole deal was handled very poorly by the BCTF and others right from the start, that this is not the right time to be talking strike and making a stand. I think they should maintain their formation for now and wait for a better time. They need to rebuild their relationship with J. Taxpayer first. Secondly, nobody is getting the exorbitant raises they are demanding, and haven't been for years. J. Taxpayer hasn't seen a raise in "I don't know when" and likely won't. The average person continues to live on the same old dime, and is really enraged at seeing such greedy demands. This is the second slap to the ratepayer. The first slap was trying to keep your job after missing several days of work because you couldn't find "on demand daycare" during the illegal strike and subsequent disobedience of a lawful court order. I thought you people were educated ?