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The RV Parking Issue, All about Meeting the Customer's Needs

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Friday, July 08, 2005 03:49 AM

-by Myron Gordon


Just as the geese, and other birds fly north during this time of year, so do Recreational Vehicle Owners (RVers). 

Most RVers travel north, usually to visit Alaska. In doing so, they must pass through a number of regions and communities. Some of these RVers even have the audacity to stop, do some shopping, enjoy sightseeing, and even stay overnight. This however is where the problem arises. 

Unfortunately, RVers being what they are, have the capability of parking almost anywhere. Their favorite spots include, but are not limited to, large parking lots, the side of the road, big box retail outlets, malls, and friends’ driveways. This of course goes against the beliefs of many campsite owners who believe that all RVers must camp at their place of business. 

So why is it that sensible, law abiding travelers, would dare raise the ire of business people and choose not to pay for the privilege of staying in private campsite? Obviously there must be a reason for this, besides not wanting to pay to camp. While this reason may be unclear to the campsite operators, it certainly seems clear from a business perspective.
 
It is the rare customer who will purchase a product or service that does not meet their needs or desires. Thus, we can theorize that the reason why the campsite owners and the RVers do not complete a business transaction is because the product or service does not meet the necessary requirements. 

Let’s compare what the RVers wants to purchase versus what the campsite operators are trying to sell. 

First, almost all RVers are self-contained. They don’t need showers, washrooms, power, sewer, water, fridge or stove. 

On the other hand, most campsites offer; showers, washroom facilities, power, water, sewer and a small store. 

So far, there doesn’t appear to be much chance that a business transaction is going to occur. 

Second, RVers are looking for a convenient location to stop. This location should be easily accessible, have lots of room to maneuver the large RV unit, be secure and safe, be free of other people or pets and have retail and grocery shopping within walking distance. 

Once again there doesn’t appear to be a chance of a business transaction occurring. Take a look at what most campsites offer and you be the judge.
 
Campsites tend to be located outside or on the outskirts of most communities. They are usually located in a rural setting, are hard to find or access. Most campsites are set up to maximize the number of sites (customers) they can service. Thus it’s not unusual to for RV units to literally be parked within a few feet of each other. Also, due to the cramped quarters, getting the RV unit in and out of the campsite can be a treacherous event. Of course, once you’re back on the road you still need to look for a mall or grocery store to restock your foodstuffs. 

Thus one may conclude that campsites operators should not include RVers in their business plan. From what we see, campsites don’t offer RVers the products and services they require. One can easily see why most RV owners tend to stay away from campsites. 

One suggestion for campsite owners is to look at other customers, such as tent trailer owners, tent owners, and families out camping. 

On the other hand, communities should arrange to allow Rvers to stay overnight at large parking lots, thereby enticing these tourist to spend the night and some money.

Myron Gordon
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The solution is simple. Allow every R V park a few slot machines, and beer sales, and I guarantee their spaces will fill up. Other than that, they can watch those tourists sit in spots where they can load up, or gamble, or sit without paying for a gravel and mud space offering nothing they require and depleting them of their grocery and fuel money. I remember sitting in Vegas, at the Tropicana, yep in the parking lot!!!! You do not get kicked out either, as they cannot find you amongst all those slot machines inside. You do not create any problems for the hotel, or other guests, and they surely get their moneys worth out of you. I am sure it is the same at that Treasure Cove. All they need there is a mini mall, and you can bet that place will be the ultimate "gold mine." They will even stay more than one night, and if they include a small enclosed playground, a fueling station, and dumping facility, and they will get practically every tourist venturing through this city. Tourists are basically very considerate of one another, so being able to park that extra few feet away from one another will be recognized for additional privacy. Level parking lot, pavement, amenities, shopping, gambling, fuel, a fast food outlet, plus plus. Give those tourists the full package, and they will be lining the highway to get in. Now, how is that for a "business plan?"
Mr. Gordon, it is a pleasure to read such a reasoned assessment of the situation.

In my opinion there is absolutely nothing in the Zoning bylaws which restricts overnight parking or the type of vehicle allowed to park on private parking lots.

There is a zone specific to businesses which wish to cater to campers, motor homes, by providing services to them which go beyond a parking space.

If City Hall feels that this restricts overnight parking of motor homes to such parks (and I suspect that if an RVer were to be ticketed and taken to court, a judge would not feel that way), a simple solution is to include such zoning in those locations which have large parking lots and wish to cater to such motor homes since they provide the ammenities which are obviously sought. It is as simple as that.

Zoning bylaws are not made to allow one business to succeed over another business. Zoning bylaws are made for public safety and orderly juxtaposition of various land uses so that one use does not "disturb" another and people have "quiet use" of their property.

If Wal-Mart, the Casino, or any other enterprise wishes to cater to such travellers, they should be allowed to do so. In fact, they may even wish to set up corners of their lots which provide electrical hook-ups or other conveniences which may enhance their customers' stays.

Things change in this world. I suspect we will see a growth of motor homes in the near future rather than a decline, even with an increase in fuel costs. Businesses should be allowed to cater to this growing market in a reasonable fashion.

To force such vehicles into zones which were originally set up for a completely different type of need is unreasonable. The business owners need to deal with such changes. They should not be looking to government to restrict practices in this case.
Gypsy, your right and Myrons right as well. We seam to be on a role here.

IMO we also need to sell PG for what people come here for. The great outdoors, and a bit of privacy. Maybe an oportunity to park near a river or hiking trail to a view point. Unfortunately we don't have that in PG.

I remember when we used to have the municiple campground near where the pool is now. It was located next to a garbage dump that blew stinky garbage through the campsite, and the campsite was nothing but a gravel pit with a few private camp sites.

The place was sold out all summer because of its central location.

Aparently the local campground operators did not want the city competing for services with them. Everyone loses out as a result IMO.
These people are stopping to sleep & maybe grab a few groceries not to spend time in this dump. If they were then they would probably find a campground instead of a parking lot. If you stop them from overnighting they will just take their money & move on.
At least half of the license plates of the RVs parked overnight are from the USA. They are here on their pilgramage to the final frontier ... Alaska ...

Prince George is simply a place to rebuild the supplies or even just a convenient place to stop. Staying here for more than 12 hours or so is simply not in the cards. If Alaska was not there, they would not be here no matter what we would offer them.
Methinks Owl is probably right on. Prince George is not, and probably never will be, a "destination" city. One can see Penticton, Kelowna, Vernon, and Kamloops, on side with Vancouver, Victoria, Parksville and the like as being destination cities. We are a "sleep over" city, and off they go, on the road again. The tourists Prince George will actually see are those who come for a reason, usually to visit friends or relatives, be it for a wedding, reunion, or an event. We do not have tourists come to this city to "holiday."
Owl is so right. They are not here to spend their money, but whatever they leave behind is "better than nothing." Make them unwelcome, and they will leave nothing.
prince george is a drive through city in most cases. therefore we should cater to the people using it. the campsite owners seem to feel they are owed something for being there. they should cater to the people who wish to camp. you don't see a drive through window at the loghouse restaurant?