And they, the USA, don't seem to have learned anything from it....
They are still claiming they are victims....
In my opinion that is so typical of bullies.....when their victims get tired and strike back, then they , the bullies, become the victims.

And no I don't condone what happened...not in any way, shape, or form

It is not over.
It will never be over.
There are presumably thousands who are willing to die for their beliefs, and they will take any and all they can with them.
Death and destruction and fear-it has now become a way of life.
The U S does not believe in a "live and let live" policy.
They instigate to bring on fierce anger against them and their actions, and then act like they are victimized.
People have difficulty getting on well with their next door neighbors-how can we actually expect countries to get along?
It will be a long struggle-but it really will be a "no win" struggle.
The worst is yet to come-as we are dealing with people who place no value on life.
So what is left?

Opinion250:"It also marked the coming of age when we could no longer assume that acts of violence in some far off land could not be brought to our own door step."

Perhaps it also marks the beginning of an age when one should no longer consider bringing "shock and awe" type of destruction disguised as bringing "freedom and democracy" to other far off lands.

As the other posting states:..."believe in a "live and let live" policy."

When other countries are ready to engage in the experiment with democracy they will do so.

The age of imperialistic empire building has come to end in this shrinking global village - some leaders have failed to come to grips with that reality.

Until they do, until they have learned by suffering setbacks and eventual humiliation that pre-emptive warfare has lost its validity as an option there will be more aggression followed by the inevitable backlashes.

One can bomb cities and populations but one ought not to expect that the victims will appreciate it and begin to submit to the aggressor.

Ramming "democracy" down peoples throats is not the solution... it is however, what got the U.S. and much of the rest of the world in this predicament. We in the West are often too ignorant of the world around us to even understand, our values are not necessarily the only values that matter or, that are the right values for all people at this time.

The amount of "terrorist attacks" will be in direct proportion to the U.S. and other countries didling in the affairs of other nations... regardless of whether the intent was for good or bad. That's what many don't understand. The second you go into another's arena, you make yourself a part of their game and it doesn't matter how good or righteous your intentions were. Another thing that seems to be missed by many is that it doesn't matter how much money you spend on security, you can never eliminate terrorist risk... all you've done is give people a false sense of security through the spending of hundreds of billions of dollars that could be better directed to tangible work.

In the end, Israel will have to learn to cope without billions of dollars from the West, Muslims will have to learn to overcome their own problems without blaming their ills on the West and we in the West will simply have make due with less Mid-East oil. Our position in the West may be best suited to avail options to those in effected regions through other means than force i.e. making immigration, education, healthcare and social options available, without gunboat diplomacy or imperialism... we certainly haven't earned any right to instill our values on others.

I disagree I think our values are important. We should not impose those values on others through force, but we should suport our values to maintain the moral highground, which has been the guaranture of Canadian security for most of our history.

The source of the overwhelming majority of global terrorism is the direct result of Israeli zionist political policies of apatheid and ethnic cleansing in conjunction with their partners in the multinational sphere that are pillaging nations around the world under the guise of a forced free-trade.

The number one priority for peace should be an end to the Canadian support of an Israeli ethnocentric state and insteed support of the rights of all citizens in Palistine. An effort to regain the moral highground over all those who would be terrorists.

On the global front it is time for the end of Empire politics that benefit multinational entities at the epense of citizens everywhere. It is time for democracy to take its place as a grasss roots based movement that is an enabler of some sort of global democracy based on democratic standards for member states, provinces, and small nations around the globe that debate and draft trade and security policies governing the interaction of global transactions with the moral highground of a citizen based decision making process.

The UN should be allowed to go the way of the dinisours with its Empire veto's and undemocratic membership. The UN is now a source of the problem and not a part of the solution for global security.

BC should led the way in this new world with our resource independence and moral authority, then soon the likes of Japan, Germany, Brazil, Italy, American states, and eventually even Middle East states will want to participate in true freedom and democracy based on citizens and citizen rights.

Time Will Tell

Chad: "The UN should be allowed to go the way of the dinisours with its Empire veto's and undemocratic membership. The UN is now a source of the problem and not a part of the solution for global security."

Sorry, not unless there is another international body to take its place. There is nothing wrong with the United Nations. But there is a lot wrong with some of its more powerful member nations who use it as a convenient venue for their obstructionist and warmongering agendas.

That is my observation.

Your observation is correct diplomat.

The unthinkable has been happening for a number of years ie;

The Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima, and Nagasaki

The blanket bombing of the City of Dresden Germany.

German Concentration Camps

The starving to death of Millions of Ukrainians by Stalin.

Agent Orange in Vietnam, and the killing of a million civilians.

Cherlnoble nucleur explosion.

The anniliation of the American Indians.

Russian Nucleur Subs rotting under the sea with the danger of releasing radiation.

Massive storage of nucleur waste with no place to keep it, and it has a lifespan of thousands of years.

The list goes on. 9/11 is only one of many unthinkable situations.

Winston Churchill once said **There is no Army in the World that can stop an idea whose time has come**

You are now watching an idea whos time has come. Aircrafts, Aircraft Carriers, Tanks, Helicopters, etc; are no match for a Freedom Fighter (Some are called terroists) if you cant find him, and identify him as an enemy. This concept was used by the Americans during there illegal revolution against Britian and worked quite well. At that time it was considered a glorius way to fight, however the British thought it was terribly uncouth. Later it became guerrilla warfare and that conotation was acceptable. Vietnam showed how effective it can be. Now it is called terrorism and is totally unnaceptable by the West, however I doubt if that will stop the people in the Middle East.

If we cannot find a way to deal with this problem, other than killing everbody that disagrees with us, then we are in for a long haul.

I should clarify. I think the UN needs to be replaced as the pre-eminent global authority in matters of trade and security by an as yet organization that is based on grass roots democracy. As this organization takes shape it displaces the UN by way of its moral authority to civilian based grass roots democracy.

The UN could continue to be representative of war lords, dictators, empires, and even democracies that wish to participate in the 'show'. The only thing is I think the UN should be irrelevant to our security decisions when it comes to their veto's and diluted moral authority.

Any one that says China should have a VETO over our security concerns should realize this is a surrender of national sovereignty towards foreign policy in critical areas. Ditto for American VETO over Mid-East peace.

Look how Islamic Turkey bends over backwards to conform to European norms in order to join the club. The UN is nothing to aspire to in regards to moral norms or values. Because of Empire VETO's the UN lost its moral authority.

Monkey see monkey do....