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Fund Won't Solve Cameron Street Woes: One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Monday, October 16, 2006 03:45 AM

        
Why does City Hall continue to insist that the Canada-British Columbia Municipal Infrastructure fund could be the "be all- end all" for the money woes of the Cameron St. Bridge?  

Get with the program folks. Have you read the criteria for the grants? The fund is made up of $51 million Federal money, $51  million Provincial money and $51 million local money, that translate into $153 million in the pot. 

80% of that total  is to be shared by all cities in the province with fewer than 250,000 people.

60% of that money will go to "Green projects" such as; drinking water, storm water and sewage treatment and public transit.

The Mayor has obviously been eating too much of that Chinese food on his junkets. A new bridge across the Nechako simply doesn’t qualify nor should it.

But what if we caught Stephen Harper drinking beer with the Taliban and were able to squeeze the money out of him?  Well we would have to line up with the balance of the communities in BC under 250,000 for the 80% that is divided into two pots, 60% for green projects, you know sewer water etc, for a total of $49 million and $32 ½ million for local roads culture, tourism and recreation benefits.

Now the full meal deal for the bridge is about $19 million for phase 1, so get that one out of your head.  Option 2 (for god’s sake don’t mention opition3) is for about $9 million.

So could we conceivably get $6 million for the Cameron St. bridge option 2?  That’s the plan for a two lane metal bridge on the old piers.  That would leave us with a bill for $3 million. Using what bridge builders now say is a more accurate price than the City’s old estimates, the full meal deal would cost us about $25 to $30 million when the dust settles . So we would only need $20 million of the infrastructure fund, and all the other communities won’t mind if we take two thirds of the pot.

Only hitch, there is a "cap" on the funding.  That "cap" is a million per level of government, so, one million from the federal share, one million from the provincial share....and we are left with a tab that at the very least, would be $7 million, and at the worst, $22 -27 million. 

No  one wants to talk about it, but "option 3" (oooh, someone will get mad) is a single metal deck on the existing piers,  at a cost of about $3 million... gee.. one million from the feds, one million from the province...  we pay our share...everyone is "even- steven"...yet this is the only one we are not supposed to talk about!

You folks who have been trying to pass this one off on the taxpayers, get plenty of rest, drink plenty of fluids and don’t report to work you could spread it around, your sick.

I’m Meisner and that is one man’s opinion.


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It is either that some here cannot read and clearly understand what the criteria are or some feel that criteria are just words on paper and that there are "political" ways of getting the money.

No matter how the money is spread around, whether through reasonable adherance to the citeria or political favouritism, there are others in BC and Canada in the same game.

Keep in mind what is happening to the Fraser Bridge Twinning. First there is the misjudgment on the MoT's part of how much such a project would cost these days. Then there is the matter of BC re-grouping to have a look at what to do now since the RFP came in so high. They did not just open up their purse and say "go for it".
Dont forget that the twinning of the John Hart bridge was to cost 23 Million, however at the end of the day it was 17 Million over budget for a cost of 40 Million. Politicians are fast and loose with taxpayers money.

RE Cameron St. Bridge. Option four (4) which should be Option (1) is to repair the old bridge for a cost of $750,000.00 get it up and running and get on with our lives. There is no justification for a new bridge, and it would be a shame to tear down the old bridge and replace it with a single lane steel superstructure , that would only do for traffic what the old wooden bridge would do. The repair cost is less that the replay board at the CN Centre. Maybe if we want this brige repaired we could have seats built on the side of the bridge for hockey fans and clear off the ice on the river in the winter and play hockey. That way if it was related to Hockey the Mayor and his buddies would get on the problem right away.
Dont forget that the twinning of the John Hart bridge was to cost 23 Million, however at the end of the day it was 17 Million over budget for a cost of 40 Million. Politicians are fast and loose with taxpayers money.

RE Cameron St. Bridge. Option four (4) which should be Option (1) is to repair the old bridge for a cost of $750,000.00 get it up and running and get on with our lives. There is no justification for a new bridge, and it would be a shame to tear down the old bridge and replace it with a single lane steel superstructure , that would only do for traffic what the old wooden bridge would do. The repair cost is less that the replay board at the CN Centre. Maybe if we want this brige repaired we could have seats built on the side of the bridge for hockey fans and clear off the ice on the river in the winter and play hockey. That way if it was related to Hockey the Mayor and his buddies would get on the problem right away.
Save it as a foot bridge and cycle path. It saves the historical flavour of the City.

Get the hazardous goods route out of the City and we won't need a steel bridge on the existing piers. How ugly!
We need to find a demolishen crew to fix that bridge once and for all time. Its got us all bunched up and council is having a ball in the mean time.

Well maybe as a foot bridge it wouild be OK.

Cheers.
Sounds like a lot of stalling so that they can push the problem to the next mayor (Dan Rogers), who as I recall didn't support any option to replace or fix the bridge. Hope nobody is holding their breath!
I agree Mr PG.

Dan didn't engineer a board seat on a front corporation to win the election through development hype subsidized with our tax dollars either. Probably would have won it had it been a fair election.
Being relatively new to this community I find several things rather confusing. Being a transplant from Kelowna I find it hard to understand why things are so hard to accomplish up here. I remember when I first visited this community in 1973 and thought it was so cool and unique and had the feel of the real, rough tough and a strong sense of people who knew how to live life to the fullest under most challenging conditions. I found it awe inspiring. Wasn't the bridge at that time called the Nechako Bridge? I like that name better, and where the he.. is Cameron Street anyway? Was he some famous guy around here? I would like to see the bridge back to its former glory. I remember crossing it and thinking how unique and cool it was. The heritage around it must be interesting. Palopu has a good point. I know he/she is trying to take a shot at the somebody but I can picture that. Hockey, lights around the bridge and even a sign or an area down by the river that tells of the heritage of this bridge. I probably sound naive being a newby but I sure haven't seen much here that is interesting or user friendly. I couldn't believe it when over the last few summers I saw all the cars lined up along Foothills Rd by the bridge. People in the summer are looking for a nice place to spend time near the water(God knows the so called summers are short enough). I'd shake my head and wonder how long till there's an accident there. We have younger families moving in here and they need places to go. Not everyone including myself is into walking along trails and looking at (guess what?) more trees! Why can't the city or the gravel company give access for cars to park in there and maybe even put some picnic tables and outhouses down there. Anyway, like I say I'm a newbie here so maybe I just don't know the dynamics of this community, but I sure find it strange and frustrating. To just go somewhere and sit without having to look real hard for a place to pull over and take a break is something I really miss. Maybe there just needs to be more signs to actually guide me to some places like that or are there any, but I wouldn't want to put anybody out.. Any way, I digress. Bring the bridge to it's former glory.
Well said Paladin. You will have to be careful using common sense in this town as it is not very well understood. We stand for tearing things down, not keeping them for our Citizens or for Heritage reasons.

The Old School in South Fort George built in the early 1900's torn down.

The house where one of the oldest and toughest school teachers in this area (Fanny Kinney) who taught for approx 40 years, which was located beside the slough in South Fort George. Torn down and replaced with a sign. One of the only dairies in the area, located across from Fanny Kinneys house, that used to deliver milk by horse and buggy gone. We didnt even keep the buggy.

There is nothing to indicate that Paddle Wheelers that ran up and down the Fraser River and docked in South Fort George and ran up River to Huble Homestead ever existed except in some old photographs, or a sign along the river bank.

Some of the oldest farms in the area, along with some of the biggest root houses, and the first and only slaugherhouse in South Fort George below the Cemetary is now home to a trailer park. There used to be Native houses in this area, and they would catch Salmon in the Fraser and smoke them along the river banks.

The old Hudsons Bay Store in what is now Fort George park (Gone)

Most of our old schools torn down and burnt.

South Fort George was the first settlement in this area, and it was followed by Central Fort George. When the Railway was coming to town in 1918 the land speculators upped the price of land to the point that the Railway decided to locate at the Island 'Cache (Now First Avenue) to avoid these high costs, and as a result Prince George was formed. Over time Central Fort George and South Fort George became part of Prince George.

The reason that Prince George doesnt care about landmarks and heritage points is because the City of Prince George has very little History. It was created as an alternative to high cost land.

Most people in the Civic Government, Universitys, etc; are from other Citys and have little or no interest in our History. These are the people who will tear down the Cameron St. Bridge and replace it with a steel superstructure so that some politicians can get some mileage, and some contractors can make some money.