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New Ammunition In The Battle To Clean Up The 'Hood

By Michelle Cyr-Whiting

Monday, February 12, 2007 05:36 AM

                                Looking east across Victoria at the VLA neighbourhood

RCMP Superintendent Dahl Chambers admits the neighbourhood is often referred to as "the slum" or "the hood", but he says the VLA has a lot of outstanding individuals living there.

Individuals like Kathy Mueller, who, prior to Chamber's budget presentation to city council, used the public input portion of the meeting to plead for action in her neighbourhood.  She called on councillors, "Please help us break this chain (of violence and addiction), which is choking the life out of our childrens' future."  (click here, for full story)

The RCMP Superintendent used his time before council to make, what he called, a "bit of a speech" about the VLA.

"There is a lot of responsibility that needs to be taken for what happens in that community, and also some of the folks that are allowed to live there and for what reasons," says Dahl Chambers.

"You take a crack house: how did that come to be? How is that allowed to happen in our community?" says Chambers.  "It's not just the police dealing with that and, certainly, we've got lots of work that we do with our city, but certainly there are landlords that need to be responsible, as well."

The City's Manager of Bylaw Services, Ken Craig, says he's very aware of what's happening in the VLA.  Craig says there's a cooperative working relationship with the police, the fire department and other city departments, and Bylaw Services is trying to develop a more comprehensive program.

He says, he's hopeful that in the not-too-distant future, "We will be ready to come to council with a report and possibly some bylaw changes to help us out.  We are very friendly with all the absentee landlords, we know who they are, and whenever there's a chance for us to upgrade things in the VLA, we do that."

Mayor Colin Kinsley says he knows there's been some successes in working in conjunction with the RCMP and using building, electrical and plumbing inspections to shut down homes rented out as crash houses.  "So if you're coming up with something new that will help, that's even better." 

"It's in the works, your Worship," was Craig's reply.


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I laugh at kinsley's comment about using building,plumbing,electrical inspections to shut down these 'crash/crack" houses.The city of PG has no control over the vast number of unauthorized suites in the area with the existing bylaws you have now!! Its not hard to figure out a house with an illegal suite all the signs are there so get bylaw officers on that.Have the often absentee and/or slum landlord conform to code i.e: correct number of exits/doors(fire safety)legal address change to reflect suite (2183 B or 1-2183)
and tax adjustment to reflect the multi dwelling that it is.That would solve a few problems.Some landlords don't care about what is going on as long as the $$ is coming in.I speak as a former VLA resident.When cars and people are in/out in a steady stream every 20 mins,all hours of the day and night, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what they are running out of the house.The City Bylaw services and police were of no help believe me.I just started calling the landlord every time and I mean EVERY time, there was a problem and that would eventually put an end to it.Large out of hand parties,assaults,screaming,
& yelling,breaking beer bottles in the driveway,fighting,loud music and incessant barking dogs..we'd seen it all and on the rare incident (unconscious beaten man in front yard of rental) got a response from the one of the above agencies.
As long as this doesn't go on in your neighbourhood you don't care(NIMBY) Get your heads out of your butts this has been going on since I moved here over 10 yrs ago
and has gotten worse with the same rhetoric spouted from the same agencies.Maybe we need a "VLA revitalization study" to tell us how to make it better..like the downtown.
Well put "ontwin", and I am sure Kinsleys, Craigs, and police comments will be subject to a healthy dose of sarcasm.
You are absolutely correct about the amount of "illegal" suites in the city-and they number in the thousands. Does one ever hear of those being closed? That By Law Enforcement Head, namely Craig, must be too busy keeping warm and comfortable in the confines of City Hall. That ex cop is at a loss as to how to enforce closure of those illegal suites. After all, where would the people go? And those poor property owners lose their "mortgage helper." Craig would surely enjoy the highest marks in an "unpopularity" contest. Do you see the problem?
This is a very complex subject.
Now, amongst all these so called deviates we will place seniors to enjoy the peace and quiet and a comfortable way of living out their final days in a residence bordering the "hood."
Another choice made by our renowned Mayor and Council.
You were wise to get out, ontwin, but there are many more that want in. The freedom they have in the area is unfettered by control of any magnitude.
How many years did it take to make the Island Cache extinct?
The "hood" is there to stay, and I defy anyone to prove me wrong, especially Craig.
His projected clean up shall become a form of entertainment, so sit back and enjoy this exercise in futility.
He will simply be a thorn in the side for a number of those residents, but it will be short lived.
Guaranteed to be unsuccessful.
I think absentee landlord should not be allowed to vote in our municiple election. It should only be residents of Prince George that can vote. That would solve a lot of problems in this cummunity and would surely change our city council to one that has popular support....
community not the spl mistake lol.
Wow- a couple dozen denied the vote.
Now that will mean zippo, nada, zilch!
I really need Chad to expand on that posting.
Now I really feel in need of an advanced education.
Sure will make a big difference-and I imagine city council is trembling at the mere thought.
If that doesn't solve all the problems-nothing will!
Why didn't we all think of that one?
As a landlord, (i dont know what an absentee landlord is, btw) I can agree and disagree with a lot of the column and comments here. I have never been a fan of illegal suites. As a landlord however, i am acutely aware of my limitations regarding the behaviour of my tenants. I need to show cause for evictions. I need to be careful to ensure i am being fair, as many tenants (and i do mean many) try to use me to settle their disputes. The police are of NO help to me, period as they consider most complaints to be rentalsman responsibilities.
I have never owned a crack house. I HAVE renovated, cleaned and repaired the units i rented out, over and over again. I have taken references and not rented to people whom i thought would be trouble. This has not stopped people from taking or even trying to grow drugs in my properties ( icaught the latter, evicted them and had my placed destroyed for my efforts). Being a landlord is hard and thankless and a lot of folk went broke trying to survive the last downswing. Rental accommodation is an absolute necessity in this town.
The hood is the hood because of the bad people that live there, not because the houses have been trashed. No landlord likes to have his property destroyed. None of us wat to rent out dumps for pennies above what they cost to own. If you ask any landlord he will tell you he would like to see the hood cleaned up so he could rent to better people. HOWEVER, i suspect that these same landlords are currently in the position of renting out places 'as is' because it just doesnt pay to do otherwise.
So where am i going with all this? I think that drugs are the problem, period. Deal with them directly rather than downloading the problem to landlords and the city and such. If you get all the drugs out of the hood by closing all the crack houses then what? They will just take up residence somewhere else. Solve the problem dont shift it around.
I agree one hundred and ten percent with caranmacil. Being a landlord is the toughest job on the planet, and especially with all the government interference. We cannot control our own properties, as they hire a used to be failure as a lawyer to rake in a bundle of taxpayers dollars to supposedly solve the problem between a landlord and a tenant. And to top it off-the tenant is one hell of a lot more knowledgeable then either one of them as to how to come out on top.
It used to be the property owner had some say over the manner in which a tenant conducted themselves, but what with this drug problem that has surfaced and appears to be uncontrollable, it must be every landlord's hope to get the hell out while he can can salvage some of his investment.
I hand out eviction notices, and those tenants immediately have me on "ignore."
I, on occasion, overstep the boundaries I am permitted to operate under, but when I have reached that point I just do not give a damn. If I really have to get rid of a tenant, I work at it, and I am honest enought to tell them in advance they will be gone-sooner rather than later.
Does any property owner want their property to be turned into a grow op-or a crack house, whether they are absentee or not?
I don't think so.
Give us back our rights, and we will clean up the problem, and they will not move to another area, they will move right out of town.
Guaranteed.
It is worth a try.
I think the cops would be wasting their time and my tax dollars hassling the bad people in the 'hood. All that time, trouble and paperwork so the judge can let them go again in a few hours? That is what I call "non-profit". Now as an example as a "profit-crime" would be speeders in front of the Roller Dome and up on Peden Hill. That is where the bucks are. AND no unmanageable riff raff to hassle you, the cop. Just mild mannered respectful motorists paying through the nose. Now ain't that a difference? Is to me.
absentee landlord = non-resident property owner

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