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What's Up With Canfor?

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Friday, September 02, 2005 04:03 AM

Is Jimmy Pattison fishing around looking for a US partner in Canfor?  Or is Canfor looking to buy a US based company to turn itself around and send the price of its shares on a new upswing?

Canfor has now resigned from the Council of Forests. That group has been the back bone of the fight to over turn the softwood lumber duties at the US border. By bowing out of the group, Canfor could now pick up a US company and by so doing, get the gravy from both sides of the border. 

If the US holds firm in not returning the $5 billion in tariffs collected so far (Canfor has paid 1 billion bucks worth) then Canfor, hooking up with a major US player ,could receive those tariffs back on the US side. 

By now Jimmy has no doubt told the Canfor Brass, sell, buy or do something to turn this place around or I’ll have to look over my people. 

IP&P would no doubt like the forest tenure of Canfor which would give them both worlds. They are the largest in the world and to pick off Canfor would not be a difficult task. 

In the end where there is smoke, there is generally fire and in the next few months we will no doubt see some of those flames. 

I’m Meisner, and that, is one man’s opinion.


 
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IMO the strategy is clear. America signed on to NAFTA, therefore NAFTA is American law, and American courts have no choice but to hold up American law. Hence the NAFTA ruling is all CANFOR needed to make their case in a court of law in sueing for every last cent the Americans have collected in tariffs and there is not a darn thing the Americans can do about it.

Unless of course they wish to reject the rule of law and all that implies.

Time Will Tell

PS Its sad that the Canadian governemtn is not taking this violation of NAFTA more seriously, because otherwise we are simply no better then a subservant colony of America with little to no rights as a country, corporation or citizen under the Canadian flag. I think that is sad that we would surrender our sovereignty without so much as a small apperence of a fight from our so-called governing team Canada Liberal Party.
I am seriously wondering how we could possibly be questioning the potential actions of this fine corporate citizen!!!!!!!
Just joking!!!
Come one, come all, we are ripe for the picking.
No wonder we did not consider separating. The U S wants all of Canada--well-maybe with the exception of Quebec!!!!
I say, come on over. The color of your money is not that bad-and remains better than ours.
But make it fast!!!!
Mother Nature appears to be rather ticked these days!!!
Might even need more of our wood and natural resources, and might as well get them cheap.
Take whatever you want. Canadians do not mind settling for the scraps.
We are the peace keepers, both at home and abroad.
So be it!!!
Speak for yourself Gypsy.

If you think imperial rule from Washington is better than a weak federal government from Ottawa... then you are obviously a follower and not a leader.

It says to me that you lack respect for the sacrafices made to earn your rights to self determination that you enjoy, which would be lost in any union with America. At minimum I think this observation is something worth pointing out.

IMO the appologists and appeasers with no clear principles devalue the value of their opinions very quickly. Not many people respect a defeatist.

Take Care
Chad
Yep-you are the winner Chad!!! And exactly what have you acomplished in your lifetime???
How much weight do you carry?
I am delighted you are so incensed with my posting!!!!
At least it accomplished one thing.
Your rather boring and lengthy and frequent postings gave way to an attack on myself-which does not bother me in the least. It was perhaps even more interesting then some of your other postings.
Just a couple questions"
How many politicians can you name who have made a notable difference to the benefit of their constituents-I will limit this to the north or you will be 3 days??? in your attempt to prove my ideas a fallacy.
Are you now in a position to effect dramatic and drastic changes to our economic climate-and post haste????
Are you simply a computer addict performing a self serving task??? to make yourself feel adequate, and important???
I make no accusations!!! Make note of this.
Are you happy-looking up all those sites and noting them on the postings. We have seen it all on Television, so why do you bother????
Yes, I would sell all my properties to the Americans, or a Frenchman, Italian, Asian or whomever-even you-if you could afford them!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would gladly vote to separate from the rest of Canada, so, YES, I am not a good Canadian.
So bite me!!!!!
Gypsy yes you re an unpatriotic fool that has just lost my respect. I thought your post was done in haste and thus was an oversight that I could point out. Its now obvious that you have no ability to buck up and be a man (or woman) that is worthy of living in this country.

That said you have a right to your reprehensible opinion.

Good politicians are hard to find. My BC premier hero list would include #1 Richard McBride (look him up if you can, he's been writen out of history for a reason), and #2 W.A.C. Bennett. Other than that its a pretty sad bunch riding off the coat tails of those two great men.

Northern BC is slim pickings. I like the mayor of Kitimatt he seams to understand where we are at. Locally Nettleton had the right stand, but lacked focus and the ability to not come across as an idiot. Also locally I like Dan Rogers as a possible future mayor and the only city official with any good ideas. Shirley Bond has promiss, but failed us in the BC Rail debate amoung others. But if I had to make my #1 pick for the best politician ever for Northern BC I would say hands down it is Jay Hill. No Question about Jay Hills integrity, although it would be nice if he was from PG rather than the Peace COuntry, but we'll take'em however we can get them.

Our Mayor and Pat Bell would top the list of treasonous traitors IMO closely followed by our city council, and the rest of our elected politicians including Dick Harris.
Unpatriotic-definitely questionable!!
A fool-definitely not!!
A realist-I hope so!!
Now, get to the point, and tell me what all these wonderful politicians have accomplished!!!
Leave out Wacky Bennett-try and keep it more up to date-if possible!!
Gypsy are you saying we have no leaderhip therefore it is best to let others fix our problems... kind of like the people of New Orleans. I sure hope thats not where we're at. It would not be the wisdom of a realist, but rather the wish of a fool. And you say your no fool....

As for the politicians, I'm sure each in their own way feels they contributed something. I'm sure we can agree to disagree on the merits of that and if it balances out in the end.
I am saying we have no leadership-and to top it off I really do not give a damn who tries to fix unfixable problems!!!
You tell the people just how these problems can be fixed with NO leadership.
And come to the point.
You keep circling the wagons!!!!!
You are a rambler.
A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small package.
I look for answers, and if you have none-do not respond to my postings.
If you have some, share them with one and all.
duh OK....
ooooh baby, i love a good scrap, and i havn't seen a good one since the beer garden at the battle of the hockey bums. gypsy vs. chadder, i loooove it. Leeeets geeeet readdddy toooo ruuuuuuuuuuuumble. Hey, can the loser never show his/her face in here again? that would be great.
As for canfor, who would be surprised, they are the slime of corporate B.C.

later....
It was just a matter of time, (chadder vs. gypsum) two ego's that big? How could either one stand it? One would turn around and whammo, the other biggest nerd on the site has one upped ya, ouch that smarts. oh well, should be entertaining.

later.........
Spanky-don't count on it!!!
I will not scrap with Chad.
I just ask that he explain some of his opinions.
Have you ever hear, "Two heads are better than one?"
As for ego-I do believe you score number one in that area. Don't count me in!!!!
I would not qualify as an egocentric, nor do I desire to be in that classification.
If enough people wish to voice objections to my postings, I can easily stop.
I am not attempting to make waves for anyone.
I ask questions, and my opinions are not carved in stone. I also can have a mind change.
Happy now????