If PACHA wants to continue to get support from Joe Citizen then they should ensure that they implement the above recommendations in the order that they are listed.

In other words bring in vehicle testing last after the other parts of the plan has been implemented.

It will be comparitivly easy to bring in emission testing for vehicles, and the Government would probably support it because it will be a perfect way to take the attention off the other issues, and still give the impression that they are doing something.

To stick it to Joe Citizen and let the big boys off the hook would be a bad way to go. Much like concentrating on backyard barbecues, while the slash in the forests are being burnt and bee hive burners still burn under permit.

Leave the average tax payer alone and at this point find other ways to reduce pollution. A large percentage of the driving public in this town cannot afford Gas, Repairs, Insurance, etc; and would now be stuck with useless repairs to reduce emissions or buy a new vehicle.

If PACHA wants to be successful it cannot sit in an ivory tower and decide whats best for its Citizens. Business and Governments are the big polluters, and always have been, and those are the ones to go after. Until just recently the City with its dust program, and dumping its salt/sand mixture into the South Fort Slough so that it could drift into the Fraser River are just two examples of City Pollution.

The City has an idle free zone at all its yards, however most of their own vehicles continue to idle all over town. Plus by refusing to repair the Cameron St. Bridge they have thousands of vehicles idling every day at 5th and the Bypass and 5th an Carney. This has been going on for 20 months and will probably continue for another 36.

Who is taking any action to stop this pollution. Dont you think that thousands of vehicles idling every day at these locations would generate more pollution over 5 years that any pollution that is presently being generated by those cars that do not meet certain emission standards. Of course it does.

Not one person in this whole City, PACHA, included will do anything to reduce this pollution. The solution is to repair the Cameron St., Bridge and get the traffic moving, however dont hold your breath.

PACHA if it doesnt watch itself will become another Government lackey.

I fully aggree with Palopu on this.

It is one thing to put out objectives, and that is what the 13 points are, they are objectives.

A strategic plan along with tactics of how each one of those objectives is to be carried out is something quite different and needs more than just motherhood and apple pie statements.

Some of the objectives are linked and will likely best be achieved through similar and concurrent strategies.

So far, they have shown their presence and have brought forward some laudible goals which are not exactly new. Others, including the AQ Implementation Planning Committee have had similar objectives for at least a decade and nothing much has come of it, other than one inconclusive study after another.

Soon we will see whether PACHA actually has teeth and is prepared to use them.