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Treasure Cove Hits Jackpot

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Monday, July 09, 2007 09:31 PM

             About a hundred people packed Prince George Council Chambers to hear details about the Treasure Cove Casino’s plans for increased slot machines and  a new show lounge.

Owner John Major says of the  players who are "signed up" with  his casino,  45% are from out of town.  

He says the request for more slots is largely based on  customer demand, he says "if more people were able to have access to slot machines on the  high use weekends,  then  more people  might come to Prince George."

Here is Major’s breakdown:

  • 9% of the signed up  members are from out of Province or out of country ( 1,007)
  • 36%  are from  places other than Prince George ( 4332)
  • 55% are from Prince George (6467)

Prince George City Council has approved adding another 175 slot machines to the Treasure Cove Casino.  Council gave the request third reading  following  a public hearing that took nearly  three hours to complete.

The approval means the site will see a new show lounge built, a further 78 parking stalls added, ( bringing the parking stall total to 793) more landscaping and better noise buffers for the Van Bien neighbours.

According to the last  published annual report by  the BC Lotteries Corporation ( 05-06) the additional  slots will make the Treasure Cove one of the biggest slot machine casino spots in the province. 

  1. Boulevard Casino in Coquitlam with 950 slots
  2. River Rock Casino / Resort in Richmond with 918 slots
  3. Gateway Casino in Burnaby   679 slot machines
  4. Edgewater Casino in Vancouver with  600  slots
  5. Treasure Cove Casino  with 575 slot machines

When it comes to slot machines per capita, Prince George (including another 100  from gaming centre) is still in the top five:
  1. Langley,  22 slots per 1,000 residents
  2. Quesnel 15 slots per  1,000 residents
  3. Dawson Creek  13 slots per 1,000 residents
  4. Cranbrook 12 slots per 1,000 residents
  5. Prince George 10 per 1,000 residents tied with Terrace, 10 per 1,000 residents

In a letter submitted to Council as part of the public hearing package, Councillor Brian Skakun expressed concern over the short turn around in dealing with this issue.  There was a special meeting of Council on the eve of a long weekend, and the deadline for submissions was the day after the long weekend.  He was not able to  attend this evening’s public hearing.

There was one more letter , this one from Lyn Florey the Executive Director  of the Community Planning Council,  expressing concern about the speed of the process and  "the fact there has been no analysis on the social impact. We respectfully request the matter be tabled until a social impact assessment is completed."

The other letters in the  agenda package spoke in support of the proposal saying the Treasure Cove has been a “good neighbour” and residents on the other side of the “berm” have no concerns or objections to the request before Council.

There were letters of support from the Coast Hotel, Initiatives P.G. Tourism, The Days Inn, P.G. and District Building and Construction Trades Council,  International Union of Operating Engineers,  Bonanza Charities Association, Prince George and District Senior Citizens Activity Centre Society, The Elder Citizens Recreation Association,  the CNIB, The Prince GeorgeConstruction Association, the Shooters Bar and Grill,  B.X. Neighbourhood Pub, Lheidli T’enneh Band, United Native Nations, and The Prince George Metis Elders Society.

Speaking on behalf of  the applicant, L&M Engineering’s David McWalter says there are four  main benefits for  the approval:

  1. It will create 30 new jobs adding to the 200 already employed by the Casino
  2. It will create 40 construction jobs and $5 million dollars worth of construction
  3. Increase City’s gaming revenue by  $1 million dollars ( approx)
  4. Benefits for the Van Bien  neighbourhood,  through a sound retaining wall,  new sound retaining fence, and a landscape berm along Highway 16

John Major spoke on his own behalf  saying that  his company supports downtown "I believe  a revitalized downtown is a benefit to the entire city."  To that end he has promised support for a performing arts centre,  and if successful in his bid to buy the Days Inn, (he has offered $4.5 million to buy that hotel) will spend $1 million dollars on renovations to that hotel.

He also  told Council he is prepared to take the following two steps.

First, he will ensure the new show lounge with its larger stage,  improved sound and lighting, will be constructed first before  any slot machines would be  put in the space occupied by the existing show lounge. 

Secondly, he is   prepared to plant  the trees along Highway 16 this fall, instead of  having the City wait until two years to do that job, so the neighbours will have a barrier from the construction  and highway noise.

There is also a new  project  on the horizon to help those with gambling problems.  This fall, a special booth at the casino will be installed.  The Responsible Gambling Information Centre will be located in the main entrance and will feature a  responsible gambling officer during peak gambling hours.  It will also feature a tutorial, and a  self service terminal. Such information kiosks have been established at a couple of casinos in the lower mainland, and the BC Lottery Corporation is now in the process of installing such information booths at all casinos in the province.

Speaking against the increase in slots, resident Susan Seamans.  She says she feels disappointed, frustrated, powerless.  She  presented some recent articles which outlined  that  yes, some  gamblers are driven to  the depths of despair.  "But do we have to add to it?" she asked.  Seamans says  with only two counselors in Prince George to deal with  people who have  gambling addiction issues that  just isn’t enough.

The Ramada Hotel’s Manager, Steven James  also spoke in favour of the application saying the  Casino is good for business all over the city. "His is an attraction with a hotel attached."  James went on to praise John Major "Mr. Major operates a first class facility and is a credit to our community. I wish him success with his facility and I think it is a wonderful thing for our community."

Resident Bob Kiss eased any tensions in the gallery when  he  told Council " I’ve heard a lot here and not a lot makes be happy.  What I would really like to see is a good poker game.!"   The gallery burst into laughter.

He said "A good poker game is better than a slot machine,  all they do is yank, yank, yank, and they don’t you nothin. "  The gallery was still  laughing.  "So go ahead, put in as many  slots as you want,  I won’t go, but, if you  put in a good poker game,  I will be a good customer.’"

Here is how Council voted:

Shirley Gratton:  Yes. "Most seniors who do not drink or smoke use this as  a form of socializing."

Don Bassermann : Yes ;"There is  a great deal of support"

Don Zurowski: Yes  "As a land use issue  it was clear,  the site has capacity, but I have to ask how much gaming is enough? "  Zurowski says  having said that, he is not about to start regulating adult activities.  "It is about adults deciding what adults want to do for entertainment."

Glenn Moose Scott; Yes "I don’t want to ever turn down anything that will give our citizens the opportunity for employment."

Murry Krause:  Yes; "I think its important to acknowledge that whether we are looking at expanded alcohol sales or expanded gambling there are some who have problems and some who don’t that is not to be flippant, but that is important to know. I  think a deeper analysis is needed, and  I think it needs to be done soon.  We need to know where the province is going with gambling.  I know this project is right for the City, but  would like to know how we  will help those who have problems."

Sherry Sethen Yes : "On balance we re looking at a local business that is showing a faith and investment in our community....  A citizen  called me on another issues and said Sherry you are not elected to be our conscience,  don’t treat us like kids."

Deborah Munoz No : If I supported this,  I would be supporting a regressive  social policy.  I think the residents of Prince George want cleaner air, and not more slot machines.  " 4.6 % of the gambling public has a problem, and I cannot in good conscience add to that."

Mayor Colin Kinsley: Yes "People often ask why should I stop in Prince George,  they don’t want to hear about our lakes, our rivers, they want to hear about  places like the Treasure Cove.......Right or wrong, it is a revenue source for the City that helps us provide  services ....We are very, very lucky to have someone in our community (John Major) who says what he is going to do and does it."


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Well those of you who voted yes...remember this....come election time you lost my vote....and I will not forget who voted nor how....
You will all get a personal email from me in the next ffew days telling you so person to person....and if you don't like it tough.
Isn't it amazing how Mr. Majors can come up with contractors to do the construction of this and the downtown gaming centre at the same time yet that developer from the states keeps saying he can't build downtown as promised by the Mayor during his election run ?

The downtown development will never happen as the units are too high end. Aim for for $100,000 - $150,000 townhouse and it will be filled. But not the $230,000 for the area.
Gofaster,

Your vote won't matter because everyone else simply votes for the names they recognize. Year after year.

It's not about policy, track record, brains or anything else. It's about being known. How else can you explain Moose getting so many votes; how else can you explain Gratton getting elected again?
Guilty. I didn't send in a letter to council and personally I don't support it.

But if I was a councilor I would probably have said yes. I would have also asked Looto BC to allow pubs to have slot machines. It is legal theft, but not mandatory. I've never pulled a slot handle and never been to the Treasure Cove Casino. I looked around the Ramada Casino once and found it disturbing. I didn't understand why people would go there to be ripped off. I threw some loose change on George Street to see what it felt like.

I would have asked Looto BC for an accounting of how much of the money they get stays in PG. It had better be all of it, and more. Looto BC hates accounting for the money.

Moose is easy,,,,
he is a soft touch for the so called sports sector....give them a hand and you are guaranteed an in!
And yes you are right...
my vote on its own means nothing...
but if I can somehow get a couple of people to agree with me, and they can get a couple people it won't take long to get enough votes that will count and oust those who think "they are really something".....
I would not have a problem with it, if more money stayed in PG and more money went to charities...why do we have to give so much of it to Victoria.

Think of all the possibilities all that money could do here.

Wow it's going to be some "party" in 2010,How much more do they need, what with 649,scratch,casinos.

How the hell did we get by years ago without all this!.
Of the millions collected by BC $556 million went to the provincial governments consolidated revenue account with health care and education as the primary beneficiaries, including $4.5 million spent on problem gambling programs. An additional $147 million was directly earmarked for health care.

Another $138 Million of BC money went to charitable and community organizations that asked for grants, and $65 million was returned to local govenments that allow casinos on their turf.

Gambling revenues provide full time employment to more that 8,500 people, primarily casino and bingo workers, and account for approx 5000 indirect jobs, including lottery retailers,and suppliers.

Having said all that I do not support Casinos or Government regulated gambling.

As far as Zurowski saying that this is allowing adults to do what they want to do, that may be true, however it wasnt true until the Government legalized gambling. Prior to that it was illegal. So he is just blowing smoke as usual.

The additional slots will generate approx $1 Million for the City. This means that people will have to lose approx $10 Million, add to that the $30 Million or more that they are already losing and you have $40 Million dollars going out of the community into Government, or Casino owners pockets. At one time this money would have gone to local business's. I suggest that over time this is a huge loss to City retailers, and places like Bowling Alleys, Golf Courses, CN Centre, etc; etc;

Major says that 4332 people are from places other than Prince George but he does not get specific. I wonder why. Could it be because they are from Ness Lake, Reid Lake, Pineview, and other areas surrounding Prince George, and therefore in essence actually from Prince George, but not within the City limits. I expect so.

Rubberstamp. Rubberstamp. By the way, that sure is a swell picture of the casino!
Council chambers packed with supporters, overwhelming neighborhood support, letters of support from every politically correct agency possible, support from council, kudos from everybody, blessings from the holy land,....I can't imagine that this wasn't meant to be....must be fate.
Those people who support it. Especially the Charities get some of the money.

I certainly dont have a problem with people who want to gamble and lose their money. I do however have a problem with the Government, and its associated agencys being involved in this nefarious venture.

Governments represent all the people which is to say those in favour of gambling, and those not in favour.

Let the Government privatize gambling and that would be the end of the issue.
I understand completely the revenue it provides for communities who support casino's but, it is still dirty money and there is no way in hell the government,local or provincial,should be involved in it.
It should be a totally private enterprise.