Can't fix Queensway where all the traffic is? No one uses Patricia Blvd.

Remove the lights on Queensway at 5th, 4th and 2nd. Add a light at 1st ave.

And rebuild Cameron street bridge.

River Road works just fine.

Doesn't seem that expensive. No wonder the city doesn't get funding - get real.

"There is no formal application process" translates into this is a slush fund for the federal government to give to the ridings they like. So our MP's better get out there and make the case for us, like they have so well for things in the past. ( Yes my tongue is in cheek ).

If the end of patricia blvd is reworked to provide access to hwy 16, it will mean a huge increase in vehicular traffic and noise through the millar addition. The residents will be up in arms.

yamadoolpolcat said:

"Can't fix Queensway where all the traffic is? No one uses Patricia Blvd."

I believe that the article referred to "Lower Patrica" which is an entirely different street than "Patricia".

Extend Queensway straight through to the new intermodal facility. This will require over passes, one at first avenue, yes it costs a lot of money but please, not a stupid traffic light. Progressive planners opt for over or under passes, to keep traffic flowing, instead of stopping and starting every couple of minutes. CN is tearing out a lot of trackage, maybe it is feasible to have an over pass above the remaining tracks. Look at the Hart highway, a major throughfare, crippled with a whole bunch of traffic lights, which serve in some cases light traffic, and pedestrians, while creating a stop/start environment for the main traffic flow.
THINK PROGRESSIVE, PG city council (is that possible) Instead of running around patching potholes, which get pounded out right away, how about building a proper (expensive) road base from the start?
And instead of constructing traffic slowing traffic lights at new or existing intersections, save the money up, and put in overpasses, that would also reduce the incredible wear and tear the roads take around the intersections. DO IT ONCE-DO IT RIGHT!
metalman.

metalman, right on! On Highland Drive the City spent money on painting white lines for bicycle lanes on both sides!

I wish they would have taken that money and fixed the huge cracks and potholes first - but no, they painted the new lines right over and through the potholes!

This street was last paved in 1981 - since then only patching (it doesn't last) has been done. Perhaps, after 26 years of heavy use (it was approved for unlimited truck traffic some years ago) the City could put a new layer of pavement on it, especially since for the last 26 years the pavement is 2 inches lower than the storm sewer drains! How they figured the water is going to flow into the drains (it doesn't!) is a complete mystery to me!

"DO IT ONCE-DO IT RIGHT!" No way, Jose!

Some of the projects that will receive funding from the Federal Government in 2006-2007 are:
(1) The Pitt River Bridge and Mary Hill Interchange
(2) Deltaport road/rail grade separations
(3) North Portal, Saskatchewan road/rail grade separation
(4) Intelligent transportation systems deployment.
(5) $20 Million to Canada Border Services
(6) $125 Million over five years in transportation infrastructure.
(7) $10 Million over 5 years for measures led by the Standards Council of Canada
(8) $35 Million over five years to fund the secretariat for Canada's Pacific Gateway Council, and for federal departments fo work with and respond to it.

Most of this money will be spent in the lower mainland and of course some in Prince Rupert due to the New Port being built there. Will there be money available for Prince George? Who knows? The announcement of funds being available was made by the Liberal Government on October 21, 2005. The Conservative Government announced in 2006 that they would carry on with this initiative and continue to fund it. I guess the Mayor and Council just became aware of it.

The CN Rail website on the Container Terminal in Prince George states that the operating capacity of the Terminal will be 25000 Containers per year. To keep this in perspective, and to keep people from getting carried away with all the road building and overpasses what this means is this.

68 Containers per day based on a 7 day week 365 days per year. If we assume that 40 percent of these come from the Pulp Mills and the Hart Highway (27 Containers)
50 Percent from Highway 16 West and Highway 97 South. (34 Containers) and 10 percent from Highway 16 East (7 Containers)
This would be approx 3 Containers per hour coming into the City from three different directions.

Hardly a need to build anything.

If there is one thing that IPG and the City can do, and will do, is to mislead people into beleiving that this is a really big thing, when in fact it is nothing.

Its the same as building a new bridge across the Nechako to replace the Cameron St., bridge when in fact there will not be any new traffic to use the new bridge, and in fact there may be less. They could have repaired the old bridge to handle the available traffic, and gone on to other things.

This is all about construction, contracts, etc; etc; and absolutley nothing about need, or common sense.

Keep voting for these guys, they luv ya.

I agree with metalman. If the federal and provincial governments are putting up some of our federal and provincial tax doallars then lets do it right considering the circumstances (ie reload location).

I would make 4th avenue a no entry/exit at Queensway heading East from downtown. Get rid of the hooker light and put in a 3-way stop intersection. Then make it a no entry at 5th and Queensway onto Queensway.

And if senior governments are involved then I'd put a clover leaf underpass on Patricia blvd at Queensway, and then a bridge over pass conection with no on ramps to River Road over Hi-way 16. Traffic from the BCR Site would turn off Queensway onto Patricia and then onto River Road.

I would not do anything to 1st avenue but filling in the pot holes.

I hope they can get it done by October....

IMO for the most part 60% of the traffic will come from the pulp mills, 20% from the plywood and pellet plants. 50-40'sh I bet north-south of the reload facility. We don't ship lumber to Asia. The only traffic coming down 5th Avenue turning on Carney and heading on down to River Road will be from the three pulp mills in town. The Quenel south products will likely come from 16 East off Old Cariboo. That brings into question only a small amount of product in the BCR Site and Vanderhoof.

I see huge problems for the traffic turning from River Road onto 16 East. IMO it has the most potential for major problems of all intersections in Prince George. Every truck coming to the Inland Port will also have to go back the way they came.

Its a sharp turn full of blind spots with a fast flow of heavy traffic that has no care for a large unit that is slow off the line. Then its all up hill from the apex of the turn onto 1st. 30-40 trucks a day using that from the get go is a huge change for that intersection.

IMO A ring road bridge south of town would be nice to bring the traffic from the West over to the Old Cariboo and in down from 16 East as the best approach for the city for the growing traffic of the container port....

Chandermando. CN Website states that they will be loading. Lumber, OSB, Pulp, Paper, and some Pallet Products. There are thousands of Containers loaded in Vancouver with Lumber to Asia. Lumber Co.s in this area have Container Loading Facilities in Vancouver just to load Containers. This of course will stop when they load these containers in Prince George, and of course there will be a loss of jobs as a result.

It seems that people cannot grasp the reality that at the end of the day there will be no more trucks travelling through Prince George than there are now. The elimination of trucking lumber to Vancouver will be replaced by trucking Containers to the CN reload and therefore there will be no net gain.

Seems that the City is now prepared to spend $25 Million on infrastructure once they found out they could access the Gateway money. Didnt see any mention of this prior to yesterday. Nor did I see any mention from the CN Rail that we would need to put in $25 Million in infrastructure. In fact the CN Website state that the Intermondal/Reload facility will be accessed by Highway 16 and 97 and shows a map as to how access will be made.

I wouldnt hold my breath to see anything done by October. In fact I suggest that there will be nothing done by then. Its only 3 Months away. City Hall will still be waiting to hear about their application at that time and the CN Facility should be up and running without any changes to the present facilities.

Chandermando. CN Website states that they will be loading. Lumber, OSB, Pulp, Paper, and some Pallet Products. There are thousands of Containers loaded in Vancouver with Lumber to Asia. Lumber Co.s in this area have Container Loading Facilities in Vancouver just to load Containers. This of course will stop when they load these containers in Prince George, and of course there will be a loss of jobs as a result.

It seems that people cannot grasp the reality that at the end of the day there will be no more trucks travelling through Prince George than there are now. The elimination of trucking lumber to Vancouver will be replaced by trucking Containers to the CN reload and therefore there will be no net gain.

Seems that the City is now prepared to spend $25 Million on infrastructure once they found out they could access the Gateway money. Didnt see any mention of this prior to yesterday. Nor did I see any mention from the CN Rail that we would need to put in $25 Million in infrastructure. In fact the CN Website state that the Intermondal/Reload facility will be accessed by Highway 16 and 97 and shows a map as to how access will be made.

I wouldnt hold my breath to see anything done by October. In fact I suggest that there will be nothing done by then. Its only 3 Months away. City Hall will still be waiting to hear about their application at that time and the CN Facility should be up and running without any changes to the present facilities.