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City Council Might Be Wondering, But Ice Oval Society Isn't: One Man's Opinion

By Ben Meisner

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 03:45 AM

        

What should be front and center with all Councilors who sit on Prince George City Council is the matter of who authorized the give away of the gravel from the west end of the CN center, that's the gravel which ended up being the property of the Ice Oval Society.

There is no room for any doubt about what the resolution says;

“Moved by Councilor Basserman, seconded by Councilor Munoz, that the concept of the Ice Oval as presented with the purpose of supporting the society promoting the project regionally, provincially and federally be endorsed, and the matter of the gravel request be referred to Administration for a response by June 26th-2006.

The gravel request was to be referred to administration an then brought back to the council for a decision, it didn’t work that way.

But hold it a moment there is more. The e-mail sent to me says: "The direction at the council meeting of May 29 was to allow the sale of the gravel to be used by the Oval society to leverage other levels of government. Hence the resolution."  

Now for all of you Councilors, take note,  as the email goes on to say :" the response reference by June 26th was to let Council know how the gravel extraction worked out as the society had some looming deadlines for grants and a buyer. The gravel sale eventually did not proceed and the society has worked on it over the winter. "

Looming deadlines for, “a buyer."?  Who had given the Ice Oval Society permission to go out and sell the gravel before requesting from Council the authority in which to do so? We are talking here somewhere in the neighborhood of $100,000 dollars of  "tax payer’s" money.

Do we now or did we have then a process where you simply approved a project and then ran it by City Council, of course knowing that in the event they don’t approve of the idea, you take their comments as a suggestion that they really hadn’t said that? 

Now we are told that the Society plans to come before Council and update them in September. Why bother updating the Council it is obvious that someone took the matter into their own hands to decide on the matter, and it wasn't City Council.

Here is another question that  needs to be answered :  Who is receiving the money, the City or the Oval Society ?   The City  by the way seems to have their plans straight , they have been saying since the last Winter Olympics that this city will have a refrigerated outdoor Ice Oval. Cost about $10 million dollars. Number of long track speed skaters?  Unknown.  It still offers this promise on the "traininpg.com" website:

"For the long track skaters, plans are in the works to upgrade the current natural ice outdoor oval to a refrigerated outdoor oval providing quality ice from October to March with a 4000 sq ft building housing training equipment, storage rooms, concession, meeting rooms and a viewing area. Construction would begin in 2006.

Before City Council (or whoever) makes a decision on a refrigerated Ice Oval in this city, we should know how many people are involved in long track speed skating. In Ft St John, they are heading down the same path a $35 million dollar facility and fewer than 20 long track speed skaters in that community.

This program needs a complete airing in this city and it should be Council  that  begins to ask some serious questions.        

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Hey .... how come those folks are not called a bunch of elitists?

Oh, wait, I forgot .... Speed skating is a sport. That would explain it all.

;-)
Good response Owl, I agree.
My concern is that I believe that the Ice Oval society has absolutely NO plans to keep the sheet of ice in the middle of the oval for outdoor hockey. My son often goes to the oval, and there can be hundreds of kids & adults on the hockey rink, and perhaps dozens on the oval. I'm not sure if I support the multi-million dollar project or not, however, I'm definitely opposed to it if it's only for a few speed skaters, and destroying a great tradition in the meantime by eliminating an excellent and healthy recreational spot for such a huge number of people. I mean, come on, outdoor hockey in a Canadian winter city...why mess with that.
This oval is on city property. There are many more hockey players than speed skaters.I say they build the hockey rink as a condition of using this property.
Not all, but many of the speed skaters are a pain in the ...
Do you realize how much volunteer labour has been donated to provide an outdoor rink for the benefit of the community? This has been the least expensive as far as cost to the city or taxpayers for as long as I can recall.

Wow, you would think that the outdoor oval has been a financial albatross to the poor folks of PG for eons. Wrong. Spending a few bucks on this facility, finally is very appropriate and well deserved.

How about complaining about the real financial burdens this city already has? Chester
I would assume that an ice rink in the middel of an oval would not be functional unless a bridge or tunnel were built so that people could cross over the track to the centre of the oval.

The question is not how much volunteer time has been donated.

The question is how many tax dollars are spent by the city per speed skater as compared to per swimmer, per hockey player, per baseball player, per cross country skier, per golfer, etc. etc. I would think that with a refrigerated track, the cost per speed skater will skyrocket beyond most, of not all, other special interest sports enthusiasts (AKA elistists)