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Premier Campbell Throws Out Electoral Boundaries Recommendations

By 250 News

Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:27 AM

           

Premier Gordon Campbell is moving quickly to protect the seats that the Electoral Commission had proposed be scrapped under a new boundary.

The Province will provide new legal tools to the British Columbia Electoral Boundaries Commission to protect the number of electoral districts in rural British Columbia while ensuring fair representation in growing regions of the province.

 "Since the commission released its initial report on Aug. 15, 2007, we have heard clearly from British Columbians that reducing rural British Columbians’ representation in government is unacceptable," said Premier Gordon Campbell. "We are committed to protecting the number of electoral districts in rural British Columbia. At the same time, the commission clearly identified growing regions of the province where more representation is needed. We will set broader guidelines under the Electoral Boundaries Commission Act to give the commission the flexibility necessary to adjust electoral boundaries and ensure fair and equal representation for all regions of the province."

Under the existing act, the commission is ’permitted to deviate from the provincial electoral quotient by no more than plus or minus 25 per cent (population),’ and only ’permitted to propose electoral districts with deviations exceeding plus or minus 25 per cent where we consider that very special circumstances exist.’ As a result, the commission has a legal and constitutional obligation to propose electoral districts that come as close as possible to the provincial electoral quotient which is calculated by the total provincial population divided by the number of electoral districts.

In its preliminary report, the Commission identified 12 provincial regions: The North; Cariboo-Thompson; Okanagan; Columbia-Kootenay; Fraser Valley; Tri-Cities; Surrey; Richmond and Delta; Burnaby and New Westminster; Vancouver; North Shore; and Vancouver Island and South Coast.

While the preliminary report increased the number of electoral districts from 79 to 81, the North, Cariboo-Thompson and Columbia-Kootenay would each be reduced by one seat.

The government intends to introduce legislation this fall that will give the commission the legal tools required to protect rural representation. The legislation will establish special designations for the North, Cariboo-Thompson and Columbia-Kootenay using the boundaries already established by the commission after their first round of hearings.  At the same time, the commission will be given the legal requirement to increase the number of seats in growing regions of the province by five.

The government wants rural and remote residents of the province to have a clear and representative voice in their legislature while ensuring that there is balance for more heavily populated areas.

The province will act quickly on the matter . Here is a copy of the letter written to the speaker by Premier Campbell

Honourable Bill Barisoff

Speaker of the BC Legislature
Legislative Building, Room 207
Victoria, BC  V8V lX4
Dear Honourable Speaker:

I am writing to advise you of the Province’s intention to introduce legislative amendments to the Electoral Boundaries Commission Act, in the upcoming Fall sitting of the Legislature. I ask you to share this with the Electoral Boundaries Commission. The attached news release explaining the proposed changes will be issued tomorrow, along with this letter, to ensure that all British Columbians are aware of thegovernment’s intention and rationale as the Commission continues its work.

The legislative changes will be aimed at providing the Commission new legal tools, direction and flexibility to better balance the need for effective representation with the constitutional imperative for relative voter parity. The intent is to ensure that none of the 12 regions identified in the Commission’s preliminary report will have its existing level of representation reduced under the new electoral map, and that growing population centers also gain the representation to which they are entitled. 

As you know, the Commission’s preliminary report identifies three regions (the North, the Cariboo-Thompson and Columbia-Kootenay) that would each lose one representative under the proposed new map. As the Commission noted, this flows from its interpretation of what the Legislature intended by the Electoral Boundaries Commission Act, particularly in regard to the provision [Section 9 (1) (c)] that permits it to "exceed the 25 per cent deviation principle where it considers that very special circumstances exist." To quote the Commission:

"Our interpretation of our mandate leads us to conclude that no region of the province has an automatic entitlement to ’very special circumstances’ status for some or all of its electoral districts.

Neither do we believe that it would be appropriate for us to begin with a presumption that each region of the province should be guaranteed its current level of representation. The Legislative Assembly could have made that our mandate - but it did not. Rather, we are governed by the overriding constitutional and legal requirement to strive for relative parity of voting power among electoral districts, and to deviate from parity only to the extent necessary to ensure effective representation."

[Preliminary Report, pg. 44]

With respect to the Commission, the Province had hoped that the legislation would provide sufficient leeway to not only protect existing levels of regional representation, but also allow for greater parity of voting power through the allocation of up to six additional seats. The government did not specifically identify the regions, as that would have entailed drawing boundaries which were properly the Commission’s to identify. 

 It was never my government’s intention, nor I dare say the Legislature’s intention, to reduce existing levels of regional representation that are already challenged to ensure rural British Columbians have fair access to effective representation. Indeed, I had thought that the Attorney General made that point clear during debate on the Electoral Boundaries Commission Amendment Act in the Fall of 2005.

In his First Reading remarks on October 24, 2005, the Attorney General

specifically noted the bill’s "intent of protecting northern representation in the Legislature" -- a theme he repeated in his Second Reading comments. During Committee Stage debate on November 15, 2005, the Attorney General was also asked by MLA Blair Lekstrom (Peace River South) if "there is some latitude in [the bill] that would allow the protection of northern and rural ridings." The Attorney General responded as follows: "I want to assure the Honourable Member that there is a clear intent on the part of the government to protect northern representation in the Legislature. The bill gives the commission the necessary flexibility to make those recommendations in order to ensure that northern ridings and northern representation will be protected in the Legislature."

Yet, I can well understand the Commission’s interpretation and reasoning in the absence of further legal clarity and direction. As such, the government believes that statutory changes are necessary to empower and direct the Commission to adequately respond to rural British Columbians’ unequivocal desire to protect their regional representation. In the absence of new statutory direction, the Commission might not have the legal latitude or direction it needs to fundamentally remedy the regional impacts of its preliminary proposed new electoral map. Members of both parties currently represented in the Legislature have already publicly indicated that the loss of regional voices in the three regions at issue is unacceptable to them. Without substantive changes to better protect rural representation and improve representation by population, the final report will almost certainly be doomed to defeat in the Legislature.

Therefore, my government will be recommending amendments early in the upcoming legislative Session to help the Commission complete its work with new guidance from the Legislature. Now that the Commission has identified 12 regions for its purposes, the Legislature is in a better position to clarify its intent.

The legislation will specifically require that no region will see its current level of representation reduced. If passed by the Legislature, the amended Act will essentially direct the Commission to add back the three seats to the three regions affected. The North region would be guaranteed its existing eight seats, the Cariboo-Thompson would be guaranteed its existing five seats, and the Columbia-Kootenay would be guaranteed its existing four seats. As well, the Commission will be specifically required to further allocate an additional five seats to help achieve greater population-based parity in voting power. Together, these additional eight seats will result in a total of 87 electoral districts, up from the current 79.

Although an additional eight seats may not be quite enough to perfectly provide for parity of voting power and effective representation, they should give the Commission room to better achieve those ends without a massive increase to the size of the Legislative Assembly. This will obviously also oblige the Commission to revisit its proposed BC-STV electoral districts, to similarly allocate the 87 seats as it sees fit.

I recognize that the Commission may feel that more time might be required to complete its work if this new direction is endorsed by the Legislature. The Government stands ready to accommodate such an extension, provided the final report can still be completed in time for debate and ratification by the Legislature, to ensure its scheduled implementation in the next General Election.

Sincerely,

Gordon Campbell

Premier


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Gee whiz. Remember my claim that this was just a ploy to make rural M.L.A.'s look like they cared for their constituents? As I said, when Pat Bell started the commission comments with his stand against the report, this ploy became quite clear. Now Gordon Campbell is trying to make himself out as the "Hero of the North". Possibly, this is a coincidental incident that happens on the same day George Abbott announces changes to the ambulance system that favour the northern voters. It remains quite clear that we are seeing a new push of the Campbell propaganda machine, attempting to make the North forget about how we have been ignored and our social safety net decimated. I hope the average voter is smart enough to see through this bunk, but as I have said before, never underestimate the publics ability to bury it's collective head in the sand.
It is always a ploy.

We all know that government never does anything for the people. They always do things for those who hold office ..... in this case for those who hold rural offices.

Have I got that right realist?

I know, it is much better to hit the North over and over and over again rather than to appear to be supportive. We just would not know how to handle that.

That does not help the masochists in the crowd one bit, does it realist?

Ah, I feel a public flogging coming on.

;-)
And thus ensure that, no matter what the outcome, you have something to bitch about.
Sorr Owl, you snuck your post in ahead of me.
Nice bit of *constructive sarcasm*, owl!

Tongue-in-cheek, of course! It will whiz right by the heads of some...pity!

Are you a toastmaster?
It is called critical thinking and is used by intelligent people who do not accept the manipulation of reality. The option is to blindly be led like a herd animal with a ring in its nose. Ask yourself which is the more intelligent position and your answer will show you where you stand on being a sheep. I refuse to join the sheep in this herd.
No apology needed Death .... happens to me too, especially when I start writing something and get interrupted with that nonsense called work …
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Diplomat ... thanks.

I have been to some Toastmaster meetings and find the lighter speeches to be the more enjoyable ones, especially the ones that are impromptu. I have never had an urge to join, however.
"It is called critical thinking and is used by intelligent people who do not accept the manipulation of reality."

Intelligent people typically think logically.

They can see through the implication in your statement above that if one does not think an activity is manipulation of reality the person is not an intelligent person.

That, of course, is a fallacy, as any intelligent person would quickly recognize.

Another thing intelligent people recognize is that statements like yours are time wasted attempts to convince the intelligent.

Try another tactic.

:-p
Ted Bundy was rated extremely intelligent, by your definition this would make his thought process very logical. I remain.
I do not recall saying anywhere that criminals could not be intelligent. There is no doubt that a significant number are, in fact, highly intelligent. They even think logically. To pull off 9/11 one could not possbily be on the low IQ scale. And, in their world, the thought processes were quite logical.

However, your implication is heading in the same direction once more that if you are intelligent you are also criminal.

So, yes, I agree, you remain..... and so will for some time ....

:-P
LOL
I applaud the Premier for taking a stand to protect Northern Ridings but I am confussed about the additionof 8 seats.

The existing legislature already has 79 seats with the rural seats not being removed. The Electoral Commission report says they wanted an additional 5 seats for Urban areas for a total of 79+5=84 seats total if the rural seats stay.

The letter from Campbell might have been a mistake overlooked where he now directs the Electoral Commission to add 8 seats to urban ridings and not the 5 seats the Electoral Commission had envisioned.

Is this a double or nothing option for the urban ridings getting twice the seats they would have been entitled to for the favor of saving the 3 rural ridings?

I think the Premier will need to take a relook at his position and state that the Commission should add the 5 urban seats and leave the 3 rural seats alone, and not simply add 8 seats to urban BC.
LOL
Let’s wait till the actual discussion in the legislature. Although that would take all the fun out of us pundits on 250 ….  and would make Ben’s site completely dry and uninteresting.

The way I see it is that this is essentially a notice to the legislature and there will be some people that will have to work out some of the technical details and then it will be discussed in the house. At the same time, the Commission has received the communiqué, and they can start getting themselves out of the rut as well and getting to think a bit differently in preparation. Finally, the public has been informed. It will be interesting to see the take in the Lower mainland and even island papers on this versus the papers in the interior. It will also be interesting to see the take in the Okanagan on this. Watch that to see what kind of an impression us yahoo farmers and loggers leave on those elites who spend all their time in Performing Arts Centres …. 

The way it looks is that the notion of representation by population will carry the day still with some exceptions made for communities that have geographical challenges. That was the great failure of this commission; they failed to deal with that. They were very regimented. In fact, it is still the same commissioners and I would think that they do not switch form being regimented to more accommodating overnight. They likely never will be accommodating for that matter.

Campbell is being respectful of them and not calling them idiots in public. At a dinner table that might be quite different. Now that would be the interesting thing to find out. What makes him tick on such issues.

;-)
This only adds to the fact that the Liberal government is doing a good job in BC. This province has never been in such good shape. Pat Bell, Shirley and John are a big part of the success. We are lucky to have them. It's folks like them that inspire Gordon Campbell to make the right decisions.
It's another great day in beautiful British Columbia!
wow!! talk about sarcastic!!!
Around and around we go. It now looks like there will be at least five seats added to the legislature in Victoria. These will come from the Lower Mainland and other highly populated areas. Prince George will now, because of its **low** population become a geographically challenged area, and will be able to retain its 3 MLA'S. Gee tanks Gordo.

So what did we gain with our **rally** and meeting with the commission. Nothing I would say. We are where we started. Campbell on the other hand has 5 or 8 more MLA'S. The legislature now will have 87 seats rather than 79 and **Bobs your Uncle**.

PS. I notice the media continues to state that there were approx 300 people at the commission meeting. This as usual is *BS* I took a quick could of the chairs (not all full) and the people standing and you would be lucky to come up with 200. However in Prince George our **Forte** is exaggeration.







This is so great. Threaten to short change us in some way and we complain. If they listen and agree with our concerns, they must be trying to gain brownie points.

It really is a no win for those in power. No matter what they do. So, let's keep the games going and be thankful for at least the opportunity for allowing us to play. Chester
This was a big waste of taxpayer’s money. I wonder home much money was wasted on this whole issue. I highly doubt that Campbell would have allowed the rural ridings to loose an mla in the first place. That would certainly ensure a lack of support from rural voters in the next election, but here he is in his glory saving the rural populations voice.

"I want to assure the Honourable Member that there is a clear intent on the part of the government to protect northern representation in the Legislature.

Of course there is, if not it is political suicide in rural areas. This was big waste of money in order for the government to look better in the face of the rural voter who has/is being left out.
"This was big waste of money in order for the government to look better in the face of the rural voter who has/is being left out."

Unlisted, if that is your opinion, exactly how would you redistribute seats if the requirement is for representation by population and the population grows at a different rate in BC? The current commission thought it should keep the total number of seats for the entire province close to the existing level of 79. Was that wrong? Are you advocating that once a region has had a certain level of representation it should never be allowed to be lowered on a number ofseat basis? Or would you go even further and say it should not be allowed to be reduced on a % basis?

Come on, don't just spout out some conspiracy theory, tell us how YOU would solve it so that it is equitable no matter who is in power.
"The Province will provide new legal tools to the British Columbia Electoral Boundaries Commission to protect the number of electoral districts in rural British Columbia while ensuring fair representation in growing regions of the province."

What is wrong with that? Nothing! Had Carol James said this - some who are making the usual anti Premier/Liberal comments on this site would have been most certainly applauding it wildly.







Said it before and I'll say it again. I know I'll take some shots for it.
It doesn't matter whose in power. The health of the northern economy follows resource prices. If the price of resources are high, the money shows up to extract it. It's not rocket science. Trend resource prices and you'll see what I mean.

I don't think 10 seats in Prince George, or 1 seat for that matter, would change a thing.

As for our current MLA's doing a good job........examples please.

I'm waiting
To save me a lot of work typing how about you giving examples of them doing a poor job?

I'm waiting, but not holding my breath.

Cheers!
Owl this is my opinion as the name of the website clearly states Opinion250. I stated my opinion. It is obvious by your many posts that you feel there is some sort of ownership of this site and feel the need to comment on my opinion. Congratulations for policing the site, feel free to challenge people opinions/beliefs on a debate site. As I stated earlier I do feel this was a waste of taxpayer’s money. I do not believe there has been enough of a loss of population in the rural areas that would necessitate lowering the amount of representation of rural British Columbians. Conspiracy Theory? No it is my opinion, and yes it is my opinion that if rural areas were to loose representation I believe it would have a negative effect for whoever was in power at the time. Did I say that I was against increasing representation in areas where the population is increasing? No I didn’t but thanks for your concern.