Looks like they did not give enough money to the natives. I wonder what the native people will do for money after they shut down all industry and the govey recieves not enough taxes to keep giveing money to them

PERHAPS THE NATIVE GROUPS COULD COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION FOR COLLECTING MONEY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO RECIEVE AND SUPPORT THEIR MANY DUPLICATE PROGRAMS.

I support business, but saying no to Kemess and their easy route to make money is the right choice. 300 people has two and half years to find another job. That is a lot more time than what most people have. They will find other mining jobs.

Kemess should come to the table with enviromentally sound solutions, not the quick buck route.

Kudos for the native community for having the guts to stand up against big business to say, not at the expense of a lake.

It might be a setback for Kemess, but they also have some time to find a solution to the problem also, and that is not by buying out the natives.

HE SPEAKS WITH FORKED TOUNGE...THIS IS NOT JUST KEMESS AND THREE HUNDRED WORKERS THAT WILL BE EFFECTED.THIS WILL BE FELT BY ENTIRE COMMUNITIES AND ALL THOSE WHO WORK IN SUPPORT BUSINESSES.NATIVE PEOPLE HAVE TO START REALIZING THAT BUSINESS AND WORKERS PAY TAXES THAT SUPPORT THE SYSTEM THAT WE ALL ARE PART OF. LIVING WITHIN THIS SYSTEM IS NOT A HEREDITARY RIGHT IT IS A PRIVILEGE,AND THAT COMES WITH DEDICATION AND HARD WORK. WITHOUT THAT, THE SYSTEM COLLAPSES.LETS ALL START PUSHING THE CART IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

Ignorance over science.
Fear over reason.
Politics over good public policy.

Way to go special interest groups - mission accomplished.

If you love this planet, this is the right decision.

Those who think that it is still o.k. to abuse the environment in the name of greed are facing a tough time these days. It is painful for the corporate world to be forced to grow a conscience, but welcome to the new world order. Don't forget, environmentally sound options are available to Kemes. Instead of choosing these options they issue threats of job losses and doom and despair. Time to join the real world and do the right thing Kemes. Then again if you don't want to spend the money now that's o.k. too as the resources will not evaporate and eventually the demand will require deposits to be mined in an environmental manner which will also provide greater profits. The government could show there true colours and tell the environmental panel to go and pound salt and allow the project to continue regardless of reason. Tough choice as Gordo has publicaly stated his beliefs in green activities. If the government allows the mine they will look like liars. Oh, yeah, that bridge has been crossed and we have repeated proof they are liars. Guess which way the government will go.

What have the special interest groups have to do with this situation. Wasnt the decision made by the joint enviromental review board???

If the board had given the go ahead then those in favour would be smiling and saying that they made the right decision, however because they said it should be stopped, those in favour are sulking and say they made the wrong decision.

Why do we have enviromental review boards, if we are not going to go along with their decisions.????

That is complete and absolute baloney dg.

That's the kind of 'if you love puppies' misinformed environmental rhetoric that makes me angry.

Learn the science and do the math.

"Learn the science and do the math."

Okay ... so teach us your new math......

$10million saved by taking easy route goes into pockets of investors ....

$100 million cost to clean up goes out of pockets of BC taxpayers .....

interesting math ....

What are you talking about Owl??

The reclamation bond is posted and financed by the Proponent, not BC taxpayers.

From the ERB report directly - 'The Panel recommends that, if the Project is approved, the financial security (reclamation bond) required should be highly protective of the public interest. For all long-term liabilities, security should be required before start-up.'

The enormous value of the resource allows enormous amounts of money to be set aside by the project (through the Proponent) for ongoing environmental oontrols and future deactivation.

What do taxpayers have to do with anything, in this context?

Owl loves puppies, hee hee!

Who is footing the bill for the clean up of Brittania Creek on Howe Sound?

We are but that is from the days when nobody cared about enviroment, clean-up, etc. etc. It is because of the Brittania beach disasters that companies now have to post bonds.

Moses ... read you own excerpt for content ......

'The Panel recommends that, if the Project is approved, the financial security (reclamation bond) required should be highly protective of the public interest. For all long-term liabilities, security should be required before start-up.'

The panel had to make a recommendation about security since security was not provided for in the proposal they reviewed. If it had been provided for, they would not have had to make such a recommendation. They could instead have commented as follows:

"The panel especially notes the security the proponent proposes since, in the unlikely event that anything should happen in the well thought out and scientifically sound proposal, such security is more than adequate, in our view, to cover any expense the public would otherwise be responsible for. The province and its citizens are well protected by this excellent proposal an we recommend it be allowed to proceed."

Wrong again Owl.

'The Panel recommends that... the financial security (reclamation bond) required...'

The reclamation bond is required - period.

It always is, and has been since the bad old days of mining 50+ years ago.

The Board is simply saying that the value of that bond should be commensurate with the value of the public interest, which is huge, obviously.

Moses go mine some poo.

Ok,using Duncan Lake for a tailing pond was a very bad idea.
I think we all knew that.
That is no longer acceptable under any circumstances however,the B.C. Government needs to be pro-active on these issues.
Instead of simply stating why Kemess can't do this,they should be up to their arm pits helping Kemess/Northgate find a better way to extend the life of the mine.
We need this mine and we need others of a similar nature too,but they must be enviromentally sound of course.
That's even more critical now,considering the Pine Beetle issues that we will be dealing with in B.C.
Time will tell if Victoria is really in favour of mining or just making a noise.
And politicians like Pat Bell should quit acting so suprised...I am sure he knew damn well it would not fly!!
The rumour has been out there for a long time.
Wassamatter Pat?...not in the loop?
This idea of using the lake should have been vetoed a long time ago when it was first suggested, and a better plan may have been found by now.
But I guess that's called "politics".
Mt.Milligan will be the next test but I really don't see a problem with it,having already been permitted under Placer Dome.
And if by some chance,that one doesn't fly,then we REALLY need a new government with some cajhones!!

Kemess' shareholders are the beneficiaries of the profits this mine produces.
They want to use the lake because it is the cheapest way to dump the tailings. Do not let them use the lake, force them to use the alternative, the existing tailings pond. It means the very expensive construction of another pipeline and pumphouses, and probably the existing dam they built for K. south will have to be raised. All very, very expensive, but so what? The gold and copper are there, in enough quantity to pay for it, and still return profits to the shareholders, in my humble opinion. Again, they just want the cheapest way, who would'nt? If the guvvies say no, then I expect Kemess will 'discover' another method.
metalman.