Lets think CN only with a bigger bang...
way to go Regional District..

What a poor decision! May Crescent Spurn die in peace and join the long list of old sawmill railroad towns rotting along the CN line in that area.
To bad there won't be any employment for any young families that might like to raise a family outside of PG. All these kinds of negative decisions arise from old grey hairs that come to places like Crescent Spur to retreat from the world. They stop anything that would make it possible for a family to start anywhere around their nests. Poison in Eden.

I met a young fellow from Crescent Spur last Saturday ..... he did not have any grey hair yet.

I would like to know why there was such a turn around? The Board was virtually unanimous in support of the project when it came in front of them, as I understand it from reports in the media. Then the province did not have any objections either. Now, on a Friday, not at a normal Board meeting time, comes the news it was turned down. By whom? Administration? In camera meeting of the Board? Why? Were there technical issues which could not be dealt with? Somehow I am not believing that it was because people in Crescent Spur opposed it.

If it is for other reasons, then maybe the rosy picture the company paints to communities they are trying to settle into is just that, a rosy picture with the devil in the details. Maybe they needed to be closer to emergency facilities and were not willing to pay for that. Who knows what the deal breaker was? I suspect we will find out next week.

I suspect it was fear mongering on someone's part. After all, an explosives plant has the potential to be more dangerous than a plant that produces cardboard boxes. I hope it was for the right reasons and all of the facts were considered. Another potential opportunity to diversify our sources of income lost. Chester

Yamdoopolcat you are a supercilious fool of the highest order. l have been following your fasile posts regarding this subject for five months now, several things have become apparent.
.......you have never been to Crescent Spur, for if you had you must be as visually restricted as you are factually lacking.
lt almost impossible to miss the existing and developing tourism business there which already contributes more in the way of jobs and personnal/guest spending to local business already than Dyno Nobel would.
But then someone as well informed as you already knows that!!

Chester.
The negative impact of the Plant on tourism would have cost 3 x 1 year const jobs, 2 full time and two/three part time resort jobs ,guiding revenue. Not to mention the guest spending and development spending in the locale.
The good news is if its so benign they will have no problem in finding a new home for them.........maybe near you!

We don't need no stinkin' explosives plant here in B.C. The economy and the dollar is so good now, we can afford to turn away tax paying businesses. Wait until the coming downturn in our economy after we don't got no more trees. Maybe our govt. will go after the Nobel company, and suck up to them asking them to come back. Hope they leave a forwarding address.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/explosives-nitroaromatics.htm

Air and soil contamination are tyical "problems" associated with such plants. Now I see why they mentioned Cariboo migration. They graze and grazing land which can become contaminated may affect ungulates.

I wonder if there is another reason they are leaving their facility in Hinton.

from this site:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79647.php

Neil C. Bruce and colleagues noted that TNT contamination is a major environmental problem at many World War II sites, military training areas, and explosive manufacturing sites. In addition to being explosive, TNT is toxic and a human health threat. Researchers knew that certain soil bacteria could metabolize and change trinitrotoluene (TNT) into nontoxic compounds. But those natural bacteria exist at levels too low to detoxify TNT.

In the new study, researchers inserted a gene for a TNT-transforming bacterial enzyme into a tobacco plant. Then they tested the plant's effect on TNT-contaminated soil in comparison to regular tobacco plants grown in the same soil for several weeks. The genetically modified plants significantly reduced the toxicity of the TNT-contaminated soil.

"This is the first report to demonstrate that transgenic plants engineered for the phytoremediation of organic pollutants can increase the functional and genetic diversity of the bacterial community in acutely polluted soil compared to wild type plants," the report states. "Our findings have important implications, not only for use of genetically engineered plants for TNT remediation, but for cleaning up other sources of contamination as well."

I live in PG so I don't care one way or the other about the explosives plant, but I can't believe all the misinformation on this topic. Look at the facts, it would employ three people, three people now that would be one huge plant. Heck the tourists and people in the area probably wouldn't know its there unless they went looking for it. Here is information from an earlier post------Dyno Nobel is a Calgary-based company with more than 900 employees across the country and more than 50 similar manufacturing sites. Bob Pankhurst says the company wants to build a three-person explosives plant near Crescent Spur to meet a demand for its products from the mining industry in BC. Pankhurst says emulsion explosives are chemically stable and his company is dedicated to the safety of its employees and the enviroment. He says the industry may be the most regulated in the country, next to the nuclear industry.-----emulsion explosives are very save. Look it up in the internet.

CCC says "......you have never been to Crescent Spur, for if you had you must be as visually restricted as you are factually lacking...blah blah.."

Actually I went to school in Sinclair Mills not far down the line from the Spur. Yup I've been to the Spur, CCC must be new to the area.

"Pankhurst says emulsion explosives are chemically stable and his company is dedicated to the safety of its employees and the enviroment" ....

He works for the bloody company, man .... what do you expect him to say????!!!!

BTW ... the company’s corporate headquarters are in Sydney, Australia. The North America business unit office is in Salt Lake and the Canadian business unit office is in Calgary ......

I want to know why it was rejected …. None of the chatting on here provides me with the answers.

Also, it states in the repor: "The Regional District of Fraser Fort George has rejected THE PLAN."

Waht was wrong with the PLAN? Will change to the PLAN, mean that they would re-look at it? What was it about the PLAN they did not like? Did the RDFFG ask for something that Dyno Nobel did not want to provide?

We are making far too many assumptions with very little knowledge.

Hey, if they don't want the plant, they don't want the plant.

They can choose to benefit or not benefit. Depends on which is more important to them.

As usual, Owl is all over the road.

Road kill, he hee!

Owl does have a point though as to what was the smoking gun? The RD shouldn't have been closing the door on another employment opportunity without a better reason than we have been told.

So it's ugly, so what, don't look at it.

Road? I fly the great superhighway of the sky ........

;-)

So, it appears thae Board turned down the rezoning. It also appears that they redirected the staff to work with the company to find a more suitable place in the RDFFG.

Perhaps the Tabor Lake area might be better since it is much closer to emergency facilities.

I heard the news today. I must say I'm a bit disappointed. It was at first encouraging to know that some industry besides logging was being attracted to the area. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is not a sign by the community that it is determined to shun all or any industry. It appears to me that it was all a case of "not in my backyard". The word "explosives" doesn't give anyone a warm fuzzy feeling. From what I understand though, there is a lot more potential and risk of damage to the environment or people by semi-trucks, railcar contents on the nearby railroad and for that matter the local gas station. The plant was to provide components and a rather benign industry. Its not like they were testing nuclear weapons. Lets just hope that this decision doesn't become barometer for discouraging industry. I've heard that business & industry travel makes up more than 80% of the tourism business. I didn't think there were any neighbours for the plant. Hope they re-apply or tweak there plans enough to stay somewhere in the area.