Clear Full Forecast

The Salmon Fishery is Dying And We Don't Have The Guts To Fix It : One Man's Opinion.

By Ben Meisner

Monday, October 15, 2007 03:46 AM

        

Tuesday night you will have an opportunity to (as the Pacific Fisheries Resource Conservation Council says)  "Share your local knowledge on what is happening to the wild salmon".

Now the group is to advise the Feds and the Province on how to manage the salmon fishery.

The theme of the meeting is called "What’s Happening to Wild Salmon?". Well, without spending a lot of money, the answers are very simple.

There are a good many people who have been talking about it since back in the early 80's but to no avail, why in the world would anyone now think that things will be different?

Let me name a few from days gone by , Dr Gordon Hartman, Thomas Brown , Dr Cole Shirvell, Harold Mundie and  Don Alderdice.  These were the people who stood up and forecast the failing of the sockeye salmon fishery along the Fraser , and, as I best recall, each and every one of these men  paid a major price in their careers for doing just that.

These people are leading scientists who foresaw the problems and asked that the Nechako River not  be given up in return for some more power sales. They lost.

Now even the Conservation Council should know that water temperatures along the Fraser system have increased, we have allowed a native and non native fishery to take place at unprecedented levels and we then have the gaul to look for a problem? 

Shame on us all.

We were told that a cold water release would be part of a new deal with Alcan. Now had it ever been built , it would have controlled temperatures on only a small section of the migrating path of the sockeye , sort of offering a starving man a quarter slice of bread and sending him on his way to the next community several hundred miles away.

We were told that an effort would be made to ensure that a brood stock of sockeye would reach the spawning grounds, instead we have watched the resource collapse in front of our eyes and all we can do is cast our eyes skyward and suggest that global warming is the culprit.

We have put 3 million people smack dab on the migration route of these fine animals and without even a second thought we look for blame to be placed.

I won’t be attending the "Salmon what ever it is".  I spent 18 months of my life pleading with the powers to be  to not let these fish (who have occupied this water shed  for thousands of years) perish without so much as a fight .

Politics and power have won out and so we are watching the death of a part of heritage destroyed in a few short decades.

We all should be ashamed.

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


Previous Story - Next Story



Return to Home
NetBistro

Comments

I spent about 3 years in the industry up in the Namu/Bella Bella area in the mid 70's and what the salmon fishery was back to what it is now is a disgrace!
Who would have thought it would even come to this.
Salmon,Cod,Scallops,Abalone,they fished it all and lots of it.
Mind you,back then it was almost like a goldrush, with everyone raking in BIG bucks and very little thought to the future.
In those days,if you weren't making good money,it was usually your own fault.
A very different scenario now.
The big packing houses in those days basically controlled it all and they had a suprising amount of say in quota's etc.
Another issue I have always had is the Herring fishery.
It was insane back then,with huge hauls worth serious dollars and boats as far as you could see!
It is still going on.
Just to satisfy a very greedy Japanese market.
I always figured if you mess with the herring,you are messing with one of the most vital links in the food chain in the ocean.
Now they tell us it's global warming taking it's toll.
I still believe over fishing in the past has done as much or even MORE damage,mainly due to just plain bad management of the resource by the Fisheries Dept.,knuckling under to demand.
If you look at what they DON"T fish anymore,you can see the pattern.
In any event,the salmon are in major trouble, and it will take some hardcore action if it is to survive.
If this doesn't happen,we could very well see the end of the salmon stocks as a viable resource in the not too distant future!
The real question is, will government have the guts to actually do something, or just to prepare another dusty report.

Open net fish farms - close 'em.

Fishing for salmon in the rivers - ban it.

Kemano - blow it up and let the river flow the way it's supposed to.

"Global warming" The universal scape-goat. Seems like these days "Global Warming" comes up every time there is a screw up and the guilty parties, especially our government need to get their mistakes off the plate. The pine beetle for example.This epeidemic was not due to global warming but bad management choice not to log or burn the outbreak in Tweedsmur park and get it under control.And now the cycle is repeating itself with the salmon. The desk jockeys in victoria have once again failed to listen to local knowledge and common sense in the public.
"This epidemic was not due to global warming but bad management choice not to log or burn the outbreak in Tweedsmuir park and get it under control."

Global warming was certainly one factor (in the winter it doesn't get cold enough for a long enough time period anymore to kill the critters off) but the provincial government at the time did not aggressively tackle the problem by falling and burning the affected area, mercilessly.

The mantra was *no logging in the park* so the beetles got the upper hand.

I agree with P. about drastic measures to protect the salmon, but blowing up Kemano would enrage everyone in Kitimat - they are just getting used to the idea that a 2.5 billion dollar brand new smelter maybe isn't such a bad thing to accept after all!



Notice how in every posting every problem is always someone else's fault?

That right there is the problem.

The real problem is that every single person is to blame that worships money over everything else on this planet, which of course is anyone with European blood lines. The REAL issue is value system's and as long as money is treated like it's God the problem's will only continue to get worse on planet Earth. The change that needs to take place is the rejection of money worship and replacing it with the love of life instead. Right now humans prefer dead things to living things.

One more note: The beetle outbreak continues to show how ignorant so many are regarding biology and how nature works and the time periods that nature operates in. The greatest ignorance is still coming from those that think the beetle is an un natural force (wrong) and that it needs to be controled and "managed" (wrong again). This is the belief system that comes from money worship, not sound understanding how nature works. It is the money worshipers that see dollars rotting; nature see's diversity and new homes and food sources for many types of animals. To nature the beetle plays a highly important role in keeping the forest healthy OVER THE LONG TERM. Money worshipers only see how fast the forest can produce dead paper, be it toilet paper or money. Human values are currently at odds with how nature works in the real world.

The Salmon are in decline because of human attitudes toward life on Earth... we don't value it. Humans are obsessed with death. Become obsessed with life and things will change on our world and the Salmon will thrive again as they once did.
Ok Kevin,if money is such an evil commodity,what do YOU live on??
I haven't met anyone who actually lives without it!
How exactly do we do that?
Kevin:"...which of course is anyone with European blood lines."

Some would consider this to be a racist statement, which of course it is.

Kevin: "The change that needs to take place is the rejection of money worship and replacing it with the love of life instead."

Next time I fill up with gas or buy groceries I won't pay with money but I will simply say:" I love life." Then I will attempt to drive off into the sunset.

Next I will be thrown to the ground, handcuffed and taken to the local lockup.

Not a pleasant scenario, bit scary, actually.

BTW:

Kevin"...be it toilet paper.." - my question is: what do you use, Kevin?

Lets face it we elected Pat Bell and Pat Bell as agriculture minister almost tripled the open net fish farming on the coas,t which coincided with the collapse of the wild salmon fisheries.

The only hope now is to ban open net fish farming as well as fishing salmon on the rivers.

IMO in 20 years we will not have a wild aquadic system off the BC coast. The only things still alive will be star fish and farmed Atlantic Salmon.
Hey Kevin the 1960's just called they want their hippie back!!
"Ok Kevin,if money is such an evil commodity,what do YOU live on??"
-Im starting to think its crack! after reading his outrageous comments. In our life time we wont see the currnecy system abolished. Also as long as man is living he will exploit the earth to survive in one form or another. No matter what race or beleif system you have in place as long as you are human you need the earths resources to live or you die!!
Good idea diplomat...we have a new mantra..I love life...
I'm gonna try that with the tax man!
And actually,I DO love life, but it's much nicer with MONEY!!
Andyfreeze, don't try to pin that idea on me!

Go back to Kevin's comment and you will find out that the "I love life' mantra is entirely Kevin's creation and not mine!

I would never get a hippie idea like that, it is totally over the top!

Good try, but no cigar!!!

;-)
I agree with many of you. Completely shut down ALL salmon fishing (sport, commercial and sustenance) for 10 years and then re-evaluate.

Hopefully Alaska wouldn't hammer all the fish before the made it back to BC waters.
Anyone actually look at the landed value of fish of commercial vs sport fishing? The commercial fishery is lucky to get a few bucks /lb, sports fisherman wind up spending well over $20.00 /lb. Simple economics would say simply shut down the commercial fishing of salmon. The benefits could include no more squabbling about a native food fishery(plenty for all), unbelievable sports fishing opportunities which would make B.C. even more of a worldwide destination spot for sport fishing. And we could save a bundle on salaries of those who keep trying to "manage" this resource and who will "manage" it into extinction. Just as all those R.P.F's successfully managed the MPB. You have got to remember that resource management is designed for the benefit of companies and not the fish or forests sake.
I notice that no one on here is saying anything about the "Native Fishery" that nets everything they can get for "ceremonial purposes" and then sells every fish they catch for 5 measly bucks apiece. I have known many people that buy these fish and they are just as bad as the Indians selling them. This is only one part of it but if we put a stop to this there would be a lot more salmon returning to our rivers.
On the money front I think we will see the day in our life times where money does indeed become illigal as strange as that sounds.

A day when all transactions are made electronically through a chip (national ID) of allocations. They will deem all non electronic transfers illigal via tax impications and claim money is the product of the illigal economy.

Kevin will welcome this as his ideal world until he realizes he has no allocations.

Time Will Tell
"This epeidemic was not due to global warming but bad management choice not to log or burn the outbreak in Tweedsmur park and get it under control."

They followed what you suggested in Colorado and still ended up with the pine gone. So, keep on putting your head in the sand. Don't call it global warming. Call it a decade or so of warmer than usual weather. It really does not matter. That is the fact.

Whatever the cause of the warmer than usual weather, the long term effect of it is that the beetle has lost the normal control mechanism of its spread.
History tells us that the First Nations were traders prior to the colonization by Europeans, Africans and Asians.

While they did not have "money" they did have an appreciation of the value of commodities like every other society. One does not need money to reap from the land, even to the extend of over-reaping. In fact, that is why some aboriginals in the world moved communities over the years as they over-extracted the local resources. Was it bad management? Not really. They had tons of land and few people. When the population flourished and they ran short of resources for the commodities they needed to survive, they typically ended up killing a few off by going to war over land.

I really do not think that the essence of how humans live has changed. Some were aggressive, some more peaceful, some overindulged, some lived within their means.

Money is not the root of the evil. It is merely a tool. If anything is, it is greed. I really do not think that those of European ancestry have sole ownership of greed.
"Money is not the root of the evil. It is merely a tool. If anything is, it is greed. I really do not think that those of European ancestry have sole ownership of greed."
-Well Said. Cheers!
Very well put Owl. You may get eaten alive by those rewriting native history.
Uh, the native fishery as it is called makes up about 1% of the total fishery, so blaming those folks doesn't make sense, nor does it make any sense to me to blame sport fisherman (most of whom will catch and release or eat the fish).

I predict one day, only rich people will be the only ones who can afford to eat fish. The rest of us? Fish flavoured tofu sticks. Yum yum.
Big-B its more like 30% here is a link for details-http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/omfd/reports/Native-Particpation-BC-Fish.pdf
Here is an interesting read on Alaska hatchery fish-http://www.fishfarmer-magazine.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/1283/Alaskan_hatcheries_could_play_role_in_salmon_decline.html
I dont know why everyone is whining about the MPB killing off the timber. Dont forget that, that was our plan. By using our progressive clear cut logging procedures, we would have been able to knock off about the same amount of trees that the beetles did. Problem is because the beetles killed it off we are going to have less jobs, less trees to cut, and heaven forbid less profits for the Multi Millionares, and International Companies, who profit from forestry.

Wailing and whining and banging you head against a tree will make no difference. This epidemic is a done deal. The trees and dead. The beetle is moving on to greener pastures, and we can either burn the dead trees and replant, plant without burning, or leave it all to nature.

Had we logged off all these trees which was our intention over time then we would have replanted them. So lets get it done. Either way we wouldnt have any viable trees for 60 or 70 years. And some downsizing would have had to take place.

So we go into some downsizing **big deal** some people will stay in this part of the Country some will leave, and when the dust settles we will see whats left.

Kevin has it right when he says its all about money, and of course greed. Once again we have people crying about the cost of gas and greenhouse emmissions while they drive around town in circles looking for a parking place, going to the mall for a coffee, sitting (idling) in a Tim Hortons line up etc; etc; etc;

If you want to help save the fishery quit eating Salmon. Get you friends to quit. Get the Government to shut down all fishing within 200 miles of the shorelines.

You will upset a lot of people but that would solve your problem. Whats with fish?? I wouldnt walk across the street to eat a Salmon. They are much better suited for bear food. If we could change peoples diets we could save a lot of wildlife, however whats the chance of that happening.

Too many people, not enough resources, equals **disaster**

Prince George is a microcosm, of Cities around the world. Look at our local Council, Regional District, Provincial Government, and ask yourself this question. Can these people stop whats happening?????