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Patient Was Tasered at PGRH

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Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:25 AM

Prince George, B.C. - Northern Health is now releasing information about a patient who was tasered  on November 14th.

According to spokesman Mark Karjaluoto, a patient in the emergency room at Prince George Regional Hospital, was being aggressive, and security was called.  The patient moved out to the parking lot and was “attacking a vehicle”.  Karjaluoto says the RCMP also responded “The patient had moved back into the ER and security and RCMP tried to subdue the man, but eventually a taser was used.”

Karjaluoto says the patient did spend the night in hospital and was released the next afternoon.  He does not have any information on the reason for the overnight stay and can’t say if it was related to the tasering or related to the man’s initial reason for going to the PGRH emergency ward.

RCMP Constable Gary Godwin says the patient was tasered, not once but twice. "One member  started to  talk to the patient to calm things down and he lunged at the  member and the fight was on.   When it appeared the member was  going to be overcome by the patient, the member called for  the other officer attending to taser the patient.  The patient was tasered.  That  failed to stop the attack, and he was tasered a second time."  Godwin says that is when police got him into handcuffs, a  hospital staff member  then gave the patient a sedative, and when the drugs kicked in, the cuffs were taken off the patient.  According to Godwin, the patient was  restrained in a bed  overnight,  and released the following afternoon.

"Because this man was in the emergency ward  looking for medical assistance,  the RCMP don't  believe charges are warranted and charges will not be laid" says Godwin.

Karjaluoto says he is not aware of any other “tasering” incident at PGRH, and says the hospital’s security staff  do not carry the stun guns.

    
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Sounds like the taser worked! Like 99.9999999 % of the cases the idiot who got tasered lived. Cases like this are prime examples of what a useful tool the taser can be.
That's right. Pepper spray was not an option because if any whiff of the stuff had gotten into the ventalation system at the hospital, there would have had to have been an evacuation. The same holds true for the YVR. A very small amount of pepper sprayed on the floor underneath a doorway can clear out an out of control house party - you know - the kind that when mom and dad are away the kids will play thing and generates alot of calls from neighbours who can't get any sleep.
In this case the cops tried to talk to the man, good. In Vancouver attitude, poor training and no discipline-bad
"One member started to talk to the patient to calm things down and he lunged at the member and the fight was on. When it appeared the member was going to be overcome by the patient, the member called for the other officer attending to taser the patient"
Shouldn't the second member have been involved in the fight? This makes it sound like they were standing there watching.
And a Maple Ridge (near Vancouver) man suffered a broken knee after being beaten by RCMP goons. He left his son in a cab while he went to buy some off-sales. Cops made an issue of that - the kid was under care so that isn't a real issue - and checked his ID. When they found out that he had a warrant, they began telling him to submit to an arrest. He began asking if he could make arrangements re his son, and the used that as fake non-compliance, so that they could inflict a beating. He is off work and disabled. The incident occured last Saturday.

Yesterday, someone photographed a Chilliwack man on a stretcher, covered in blood. Police admit they used pepper spray, batons and a taser on the man. His internal organs shut down, and he is near death. RCMP pressured witnesses to suppress giving details to their wage payers. Again, the donut dunkers at Blue Line Forum love all of this. I wish the spineless weasels here who worship cops who wouldn't give them the time of day, would head over to Blue Line Forum where they can roll over like human puppies.

http://forums.blueline.ca/./viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13817

http://forums.blueline.ca/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13581
IMO if the patient deserved to have a bullet in the back of the head, then they should have been tazered.

Since the patient was let out the very next day with no charges laid, I have a problem with the seriousness of the situation that required the use of a tazer.

Every 20 times a tazer is used someone is killed without ever seeing a day in court. The results of the electric current are too unpredictable to ensure each citizen has their human rights protected over the questioned dignity of the circumstantial law enforcement.

There can be no half way in this basic concept of a human right not to have electrical devices no matter how benign attached to a persons biological system against their will. You either use a bullet as a last resort or you use the power of the baton, and if you have no power in which to operate a baton… then you find another career occupation.

IMO the police are at fault in this case for using a potentially lethal use of force in a obviously non-lethal situation (released the next day). If he attacked the officer to the point where lethal force was appropriate to deploy; then the man should be charged with the full extent of the law to protect the dignity of our police forces and the man should then spend 3-5 years in prison (not be released the next day).

By releasing this man the next day the message by the RCMP is that an attack on a police officer, is an appropriate crime to use a tazer on a citizen, even if the attack is so benign that no charges are ever laid? Therefore no real crime need take place to justify the full use of deadly force in the form of an electrical decapacitation device.

I think it is a false flag this circumstance and the 'victim' was lucky to be in a hospital where he could receive immediate medical care.

Where is the video tape of this incident? Clearly the emergency room of the hospital of all places should have a tape of the situation.
If the patient was being a danger to himself or others and at emerg to be admitted to the psych ward because they were having a psychotic episode, then that is probably why they weren't charged. It doesn't mean they won't hurt somebody really bad with their increased strength and that includes the two police officers who responded to the call.
I'll bet you the emergency room nurses and doctors were relieved this guy was tasered and subdued until they got some medication into him. The patient would have been held up to 24 hrs under the mental health act until the release the next day by a psychiatrist.
Here is a guy that got tazered for not signing his speeding ticket....

http://www.break.com/index/dude-tazered-for-not-signing-ticket.html
Watched the vid. In some states the citation for speeding is in fact a summonses for traffic court. By refusing to sign the ticket, this dummy is telling the police he will not show up for court. He is therefore arrestable. By turning his back on, and walking away from the cop after being told that he was under arrest with a cop pointing a tazer at him...well he's just a stoooopppiiiddd monkey.
Note that he got back up, walked about got lippy again after being tazered and is none the worse for wear.

Ya... the guy was stupid alright... he argued to the end about his stupid speeding ticket, when in fact the cop just played Russian roulette with his life... how stupid is that?
Taser = Canadian Electric Chair.
If your arrested, don't do a stupid thing and walk away. Bwahahahaha
The Province newspaper has this story today too, but adds that the patient at pgrh punched a payphone on the wall, went outside to vandalize a car and then came back inside and tore a door of it's hinges. This information is omitted from opinion 250. (with the exception of the vandalized car).

Police are held accountable everyday for their actions but the public must realise that they too are accountable for their actions when incidents originate from their actions. So if you don't want to get the attention of the police then don't tear up a hospital emergency ward or don't start tossing computer monitors or chairs at glass partitions in an airport.
Ah truth, here is what really happened in maple ridge.

Violent Male Taken Into Custody

Maple Ridge, B.C. - On Sunday November 18. 2007, Ridge Meadows R.C.M.P. encountered a male who had to be forcibly taken into custody.
At approximately 12:30 a.m. police were alerted to an intoxicated man and a young child, who did not have any pants on, in the 22300 block of Lougheed Highway, Maple Ridge, B.C. Members from the General Duty section were directed to a local liquor establishment where the man and child had been dropped off. Police located both the young child and the man, who is the child’s father, inside the bar. In trying to do an investigation, the man obstructed the police officers, and he was placed under arrest. The man, who was intoxicated, immediately became resistant, and had to be forcibly taken into custody after displaying combative behavior. "At no time did we use pepper spray, or a taser," said police spokesperson, Corporal Ryan Schlecker. The behavior continued when he was placed in the back seat of the police car and continued back to the police detachment. The man refused to exit the police vehicle, and tried to damage it. Eventually he was taken out, and placed in a jail cell. Police later contacted a family member, that was agreeable with the Ministry of Child and Family Development, who attended to pick up the child.
After the male was placed in cells, it was learned that there was an outstanding warrant for the man, and he was remanded in custody by a Justice.
Later on Sunday November 18, 2007, the man complained of some pain in his back, so police arranged for him to be examined by members of the B.C. Ambulance Service, who took the man to Ridge Meadows Hospital. At the hospital, x-rays revealed the man had a broken hip, so police made arrangements for the man to be released to the care of the hospital. The man will have to appear at a later date to answer to the charge of Obstructing a Peace Officer.
Corporal Ryan Schlecker further stated, "This entire incident is under investigation. Our Serious Crimes Unit is examining all of the details to determine what happened. I encourage anyone who has any information, or witnessed this incident to contact Ridge Meadows R.C.M.P. at 604 463-6251. Our office will not be able to speak further on this matter until this investigation is complete."

Nuff said.
The guy pulled over was argumentative, wouldn't shut up and was being uncooperative. Next time he better just shut up and do what he is told. He's not the one with the gun. Discuss it later under different circumstances. Chester
The hospital incident was handled properly and professionally. A good example of good and proper police work.
Why didn't buddy just go to traffic court? The taser prevented a violent confrontation on the side of a busy highway. Some people just don't know when to shut up.