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UNBC and CNC to Sign Agreement

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Thursday, December 20, 2007 03:52 AM

Prince George, B.C. -  UNBC and CNC are signing a special agreement this morning.

It will mean that  a student admitted to  one institution will be able to  take courses offered at the  other. 

The move  is expected to ease the flow of students  between the two  schools.  

UNBC gets more students from CNC than  any other  school and CNC sends more of its students to UNBC than to any other school.  There is also a large number of UNBC students who take courses at CNC to meet their degree requirements.


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So why not just merge the two organizations into one post-secondary omnibus institution with one administration? Duplication is expensive.
Cause you are talking about facilities of higher learning, where common sense in the case of administration is not usually experienced.
Some one who is a brilliant researcher, great professor, seldom makes a good administrator.
One is more expensive than the other. PLEASE keep them seperate!!!!
Wrong on all counts people.

Their clientele is different from the get go. The standards are different and so are the programs they offer.

CNC markets themselves to the youth out of school with " go anywhere, but start here"

Where as UNBC is more like " start anywhere but finish your degree here"

Different institutions with different focus but with some common ground, thus the accord.

The comeptition is the University/College of the Okanagan and T.R.U. which are really 1/2 assed colleges with an arms length connection to UBC.

This will help attract more out of town students as well as smooth over the transfer problems of the past between the CNC and UNBC>
With the decline in the number of high school graduates in Prince George and closure of high schools in Prince George, both CNC and UNBC are struggling financially. Add to this the declining number of UNBC students from Vancouver area and you can grasp the extent of problem.

It is a measure which could help UNBC more than CNC considering the fact that last year UNBC created some new programs duplicating CNC programs.

If UNBC numbers further decline to under 3000 (full time undergard students) then UNBC cannot survive.
Nowicki has it right. The more CNC students taking coures at UNBC drives up their Full Time Equivilent number which is the number (I beleive) is used for funding.

I undestand that although there was an increase in students at UNBC (Mostly Part Timer) there was in fact a decrease in the number of undergraduate students. This trend cannot of course continue, however at this point in time with declining school and graduating students, a decrease in students from the Okanagan,and the Lower Mainland,and I suspect a decrease or at least no increase in International students its hard to say how they can increase their enrollments.

They do have a long term plan to provide more courses (non-degree) to aboriginals, and if successful will help to get
their numbers up.

The down side is the potential for a loss of 2000 to 5000 jobs in the Central Interior in the next 5 to 10 years, that will see a significant number of people leaving this area.
UNBC needs a radical approach to recruite students and more importantly to keep them (i.e retention) satisfied. You can do this by keeping your faculties and your team motivated.

I am afraid UNBC adminstration's mismanagment in the past few years has created a situation that those who have experience and ideas won't come forward or are marginalized or pushed away. Why? because playing "Politics" has crippled and poisoned the collegial environment in UNBC.

Unfortunately friendship and politics play a major role in performance evaluations in UNBC. Why should a full professor in UNBC has less than 10 publications in his resume? In other universities you cannot become even associate professor with 10 papers. How much money these extra "friendly" promotions cost UNBC per year? 1-2 Million$?

Or why should a professor be tenured when students cannot understand his English? If students cannot understand someone's English, will they stay in UNBC? UNBC students have raised these concerns openly and students do check these public sites. Maybe Dr Cozzeto needs to go and check some of the comments on ratemyprofessor.com for all his
professors.

One also needs to read the 2003 collegial report to understand the extent of problems
(e.g. unfair evaluations by UNBC chairs and dean, discrimination, bullying and special interest groups) and the unresolved grievances in the report against UNBC administration (mostly against mismanagment by Dean of CSAM college Dr William McGill).

As long as people like Dr McGill are kept in charge of administration in UNBC and people with good performance (e.g. Dr Tait) are marginalized, there isn't much hope in UNBC.

The UNBC faculty ask whether Dr Cozzeto does not know about these mismanagments? Hasn't Dr Cozzeto read the 2003 collegilaity report? If he does know then why he hasn't done much? He is sending the wrong signal to his team. He can simply merge CSAM collage with another and retire McGill and put someone with good record in charge of the new structure. One person has been allowed to sink UNBC when UNBC is facing tough competition.


PS The collegiality report was available from UNBC Faculty Association page. Read the appendix where 28 UNBC faculties raise their concerns.