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Ice Jam Expert Returning to Prince George

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Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:03 PM

Prince George , B.C. - Ice jam expert, Paul Doyle,  is  returning to Prince George to take a second look at the  6 km  ice jam  on the Necfhako river.

Doyle was in the city  before the  Christmas holidays, together with  Dave Andres,  he  called for a long term solution and advised the jam will  be an issue  for the City  until the spring.

Doyle will arrive Sunday night. He will then  assess the  ice jam on Monday,  and  provide fresh information or advice to  Provincial Emergency Preparedness  staff and City officials   early  Monday afternoon.


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Why are we spending good money bringing back someone who has already indicated that their is nothing he can do..
Seems a little inane to me.
You got that right Racer. Wonder where he hails from. Probably Vancouver where the only ice they get is in their Martini's
I think it is quite reasonable ... people learn a lot in a couple of weeks these days ......

;-)
There are some images of the ice jam that people have put on the flickr.com site.

http://flickr.com/photos/diffuse/sets/72157603612562944

http://flickr.com/photos/melaniejo/sets/72157603487859525
Whn one looks through the pictures, one can see that it will be useless to spend any more money to put in birdges, park benches, etc. in Cottonwood Island Park. We can kiss that ammenity of the City goodbye .......

interesting that thes type of images have not come to the general public in PG yet .... all we hear is industry this and industry that ...... stakeholders?????

WE ARE ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS!!!!!
There was a letter to the editor in the paper yesterday about the use of hovercraft as a prevention measure to break up ice before it can form jams ......

look at this from Quebec ....

http://flickr.com/photos/daverobertson/466329081

Looks like it is the Canada Coast Guard ... Hey .... Jay ... Dick .... where are you guys in this Salmon bearing stream that we have to protect for the Canadian DFO????? and thus not dredging the river ...????
Easy Owl, you'll have a stroke.
Maybe nothing can be done with the ice...
I still have to give my head a good shake when I hear all these people who built on flood plains complaining the they are getting flooded....
A good place to start is don't set yourself up for the flood to start with.
But that is done already...
so what is the answer?
Higher dikes...maybe
Move the buildings...maybe ...but probably impractical.
Dredge the river?....
I am no engineer....
I don't have the answers.
I doubt Mr Doyle or Mr Andres do either.
Put the ice in the river on eBay, silly goose!
"I am no engineer....
I don't have the answers.
I doubt Mr Doyle or Mr Andres do either."

But those fellows are engineers ....

I would get a third opinion .. ...

A STROKE ?????? ......

;-)
Engineers they may well be...
but seems that it was said there is nothing the engineers could do.
So why are they back?

i get what your saying Owl...

and I am sure you know my thought as well.
have a great flood all...
I am kidding about have a great flood though...
Definition of an expert - "Someone more than 20 miles away from home and carrying a briefcase". Nuff said.
After the flood in the 70's the City that they would no longer spend any money on flood protect, etc. and they bought the land to leave it as a natural park. Almost everyone & the business moved out, except for The Pas Lumber. Under the next mayor and council business were able to move back in but they had to build above the flood plain. But even that rule under our present mayor was not followed and Brink Forest Products built their new addition below the flood plain.

One business that is above the flood still had one foot of water in their shop, as down on Foley Cresent the water was over four feet.

The water surge that Lakeland and other business in the Foley Cres area received was because the engineers thought it was a great idea to build the dike on PG Pulp Mill Road on a river that was flooding both it banks.

In all the years that I have been here this is the first time the river came over the banks along River Rd. Each other time it was water perking up through the ground, so a dike will not solve the problem.

Even though I am personally affected by the flooding I agree that any one that builds on a flood plain should have their own system to deal with the problem and should not be demanding that the other taxpayers pay.
Owl where are your under water photo's of the river? I must have missed that link.

IMO if I was a scientist I would want those photo's and real time video, radar, and what ever other kind of data from below the surface that I could gather. I'm sure as a country we have the technology to achieve that. That way I would not have to run with a tail between my legs when asked as an expert. Insteed I would have somewhat of an idea of what is taking place. Maybe UNBC could get the grant and become the experts and then they could become the eye in I.... time will tell?