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ESC and How it May Have Prevented New Brunswick Tragedy

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Wednesday, January 16, 2008 08:34 AM

   Today, thousands filled  an auditorium for the funeral of 7 basketball players, killed in a  crash .

Police say  the crash occurred when the  van  hit the shoulder of the road, and  fishtailed into the path of an on coming semi.  The van did not have winter tires.

Glen Nicholson continues his  look at the benefits of Electronic Stability Control:

Who is Responsible?

Late Friday night, parents of Bathurst High School’s basketball team sipped coffee at a McDonald’s restaurant, awaiting the return of their kids from a Moncton tournament away.  The boys lost their game but they were in high spirits as their coach drove their van 200 kilometres back to Bathurst.  They sang Happy Birthday to one of their team-mates after he turned 16 at midnight.  One of them phoned to say they were just five minutes from home. 

It had snowed and the roads were icy.  Suddenly, the van fishtailed, slid across the centre line, and slammed into a transport truck.  In an instant, the coach’s wife and seven of the ten kids were dead.

These were among the finest people in Bathurst, a community of 12,500, and the nation poured out its grief.  Prime Minister Harper wrote, “The sudden loss of eight people in this unthinkable accident shocked the nation and all Canadians join you in mourning their passing. As a father, I particularly grieve with the parents who have lost their children.”

Amidst the flood sympathy were angry reactions.  Some blamed coaches for travelling on icy roads after dark instead of staying in a hotel.  Others blamed the police for not closing the roads. 

As shock and denial evolve into loss and anger, there will be more blame.  And then, people will stop thinking about it, just as we have almost forgotten the four little kids who died in last month’s crash near Cluculz Lake.

Road crashes kill more people aged 3 to 33 than any other cause.  We blame young people for carelessness, inexperience, and poor judgment.  Yet none of the victims described above can be faulted for their choices. 

You also cannot blame the four who died when a bus carrying a Windsor junior women’s hockey team collided with a tractor trailer in 2005.  Nor can you fault the four school children killed on their way to a Halifax music festival when their bus went off the road and flipped in 2002.  Equally innocent were the four young hockey players from the Swift Current Broncos who died when their bus skidded off an icy highway in 1986.

Blaming weather is as pointless as telling Canadians to stop all winter travel.  Blaming authorities is equally futile because they blame drivers.  Claes Tingvall of the Swedish Road Administration says that “the road transport system and its stakeholders have been given the task of providing the citizen with mobility but have at the same time unintentionally generated one of the largest health catastrophes ever seen in the history of mankind. In a moral and legal sense, there has always been a citizen to blame.” 

When we stop blaming each other, we might discover a helpful solution unknown to most Canadians.  Electronic Stability Control (“ESC”) is a computerized system that helps drivers control their vehicles by detecting skids and applying brakes and/or reducing engine power.  ESC reduces fatal crashes as much as 43% and is ideal for preventing the fishtailing that killed the Bathurst kids.  ESC costs $111 to make and is available in new cars, vans, trucks, and buses from all manufacturers. 

ESC has been available for a dozen years and is now in over one-third of new vehicle models.  Yet Canadians continue buying vehicles without ESC, endangering the lives of themselves, their children, and other road users.

Political leaders could easily inform Canadians about ESC, yet when asked to do so Prime Minister Harper wrote, “You may be assured that your comments have been carefully reviewed.”

I requested Public Safety Minister John Les to raise awareness of ESC through ICBC insurance renewal notices.  I also asked Premier Campbell and local MLA’s Shirley Bond and Pat Bell to help raise awareness of ESC.

Shirley Bond bought a vehicle without ESC and it went out of control and rolled.  Pat Bell is glad his vehicle has ESC.  They both spoke to John Les about ESC, and  Premier Campbell wrote, “I will ask that [Public Safety Minister John Les] give your comments careful consideration.”

In response, Minister Les did nothing.  Instead, he blamed drivers, writing, “The leading cause of crashes is driver behaviour.” 

Click on this ESC video link, and see if you think your politicians should do more to keep your kids safe:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pQq-4KYBxsI


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There was also a broadcast on CTV news about frequent accidents in the same model of van they were driving due to overloading.
Not to diminish all of the fine research, or to cast aspersions upon those involved, such as the driver of the van, but how would ESC have prevented a skid caused not by spinning tires, but by tires sliding sideways? If the bus indeed slew to the side as a result of crossing an uneven shoulder, how would electronic gizmos have prevented or corrected the slide by supposedly applying brakes and throttle at the right time as judged by a computer? Evidently, the road was very slick, and the accident occurred very suddenly, I suppose the van suddenly swung sideways and the other vehicle happened to be right there, unfortunatly. If the rear wheels were beginning to spin, however, then mayube ESC, if it were installed, could have corrected that, and thus not allowing any sideways action to begin.
Now before any of you brand me a Luddite, answer this question: Can computers replace common sense? NO. Should we turn over control of our safety and our very lives to a computer, which will (hopefully) only do as it has been instructed (unlike us humans) I think the answer to the second question should be no too. To rely on electronics completely in areas of life safety is, in my humble opinion, foolish. Bring back common sense!
metalman.
I agree with the ESC thing. I bought my first truck with it only a couple of years ago. Last winter my tires were near bald and it blew me away how well my truck handled due I assume to the ESC system. Even with bald tires... if it does kick out, let your foot of the gas, and instantly its straight again. I don't know how it works, but it most definitely does. I bought new tires for this year, so its not as much an issue, but I can see how it would save a lot of lives in these parts of the world.
Hi Metalman. ESC has nothing to do with spinning tires. It detects spinning vehicles; i.e. yaw, when you turn left or right. When the van slews to the side and is not going where you are steering, ESC applies one brake to straighten you out and make you go forward instead of sideways. Check the diagram at this link:
http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continentalteves/continentalteves/themes/products/electronic_brake_and_safety_systems/electronic_brake_systems/abs_tcs_esc/esc_1003_en.html
Common sense means buying the right equipment before you get behind the wheel. You should insist on ESC. For more information and videos, email me at stability@telus.net
ESC, is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over rated, learn how to drive instead of relying on gadgets. Too many bad drivers think that this stuff will save them. DREAMERS>
"Glen" is a car salesman.
"To rely on electronics completely in areas of life safety is, in my humble opinion, foolish. Bring back common sense!"

-I agree metalman! You can never sell me on ESC. If you need another auto pilot device like ESC maybe its a sign that you you shouldnt be driving in the first place. ESC is also gives people a false sense of security so drivers that have it will be driving faster in the winter. Another design to enhance incompetent drivers.
Glen is not a car salesman. Many car sales people won't tell you about ESC because two thirds of the cars on their lot don't have it.
Northman, it sounds like you don't want to give incompetent drivers a safety tool that will enhance their safety (and ours). Here is a link to a video showing ordinary drivers experiencing ESC for the first time:
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/news-article.aspx?NA=219916
Northman, it sounds like you don't want to give incompetent drivers a safety tool that will enhance their safety (and ours).

In all fairness, this statement, without the reference to Northman sums up the benefits of ESC. Even though you are a careful driver and exhibit common sense, you aren't necessarily a good driver. We all wish to think of ourselves as the worlds best driver, yet lack the credentials. Perhaps because you haven't lost significant control of your vehicle does't make you immune. One day a patch of black ice will sneak up on you and add you to list of incompetents. Have many of you have finished in the top 3 of the WRC? Any device that would prevent any highway tragedy certainly gets my thumbs up. Many of your vehicles already have gadgets assisting your driving safety, ABS, Traction Control.

Of course common sense should prevail and idiots are out there. Perhaps i'd visit my cabin more in winter if i wasn't terrified of all the incompetents wishing to shorten my lifespan. Perhaps we'd prefer year long driving schools at a cost of $3500, plus the winter portion which is mandatory for another chunk of change. Or should we give up 10% of our income for speeding. Some people just can't comprehend that the dangerous driving they do amounts to arriving at their destination only minutes earlier, if at all, than a safe driver. People, slow down, stay alive and don't kill each other, Horton's is open 24/7.
You said it, peepulper, just let me add to that by saying: SLOWER, SLOWER!!
I myself have had a lot of speeding tickets in my time on the road (yeah, it's been a long time, so what?) but I have learned the err of my ways, thankfully not the hard way, luck, or incredible skill, not sure, but what I have observed is that the crash is far less severe, if it even occurs, if vehicle speeds are slow.
Glen, thank you for your correction to my suppositions, I did not understand that ESC was in fact yaw control, I assumed that it was a glorified traction control. Still, I remain unconvinced that it could have prevented the van crash, if what we hear on the news is to be believed (the sudden nature of the accident) Am I wrong in believing that the crash may not have occurred if the van was travelling slowly on that icy road? News that more districts are banning the use of that model of bus is disturbing to me, instead of making us drive slower, they just take away the devices that get us into trouble if we use them unsafely (anybody remember those "killer" three wheel atv's? they had to ban them because of the danger that stupid people would injure themselves)
Northman, I could not agree with you more, thease so called safety devices. People end up driving even faster because the vehicle is easier to control, so they are more like to have a more severe crash.
metalman.
Any driver that covers considerable mileage may have observed one of these vans on ice or heavy rain conditions. Under close observation you will notice the rear of the vehicle shifting left and right slightly. This can be also noticed on a lot of front wheel drives. If you are on a multi lane highway and can look at the front wheels you will see that they are not shifting from their path. This is the common response of a vehicle that has far more weight on the front than the back and what is happening is the driver is using the rear of the vehicle as a rudder to direct it in its path. In most cases the driver or the ESC is unable to detect the slight yaw. If the front meets slush or a snow drift the vehicle will be out of control before anything can respond. This condition can be helped somewhat by better traction tires on the rear but you have to know what you are doing or you can make it worse. ESC does work and there is all kinds of proof but a 43% reduction in accidents on a vehicle that has 200 fatalities for every 1 million registered still leaves 114 fatalities. Thanks Harvey McFadden
These vehicles have several problems:

1. typically not driven by professional drivers

2. when in a bad accident, more than just one or two people killed ... more like 5 to 10+

3. Centre of gravity too high with a narrow wheel base

4. If a stretch version, front wheels carry considerably less than 50% of the vehicle load depending on the location and weight of luggage as well as passenger.

Put that all together with a road surface which includes slippery sections, poor tires, etc. automatic systems such as ESC and ABS will do little to overcome all the other negative things the passengers have going against them to keep them out of harm's way.
Owl's analysis is exactly correct. ESC does not enhance available traction (as winter tires do) or overcome bad vehicle design. ESC gives drivers a second chance to regain control when they overdrive conditions. Would ESC have prevented the Bathurst tragedy? Maybe.
Didnt one of those vans recently crash outside of pg last month with 11 people in it?
Another tidbit for everyone to ponder. Albeit the numerous charges that the winter conditions and the van itself is unstable are major contributing factors to this accident, perhaps there are more simple explanations that are missing. Firstly no winter tires, i can't comprehend why people do not use studded snow tires during this country's winters. Driving with all-season tires is like playing Russian Roulette, even though they may be rated M&S, they don't have adequate snow clearing capability. Studding of tires does help, but i believe this is not permitted in some provinces. Trying to save money on proper tires is gambling with mother nature. Driver fatique, something i have been the victim of many times. The vehicle was on the road at midnight, i assume this driver had a long day by this point and may have been getting tired. Driving after a long day, at night, on wintery roads is very exhausting on the mind, making you more prone to dosing off, even for just a second, just enough to make one critical error. Add the heater that is cranked up and lack of fresh air and you become even more weary. I've encountered this phenomenon a few times and found myself in the other lane as opposed to the ditch. We seem to think we are infallible and chose to tell ourselves, i can make it, i'm almost there. Well, i've finally learned to listen to my eyes, when the lids get heavy and the yawning becomes frequent, it is immediate nap time, pullover wherever safe right away, don't wait for a rest stop, you might not make it.
great debate! However, one more thing:

Slush and black ice are not traffic friendly regardless of how experienced a driver you are. The accident report stated weather as the overriding factor for the crash. YES, the safety rating and safety features of the vehicle is something to consider as well as driver experience, but let's keep it in perspective! I was doing 5km/hr, arriving at a stop light in a line of traffic, caught a little slush and narrowly avoided the vehicle in front of me and the vehicles on either side of me! Scared the crap outta me. That's why winter conditions are so treacherous. And yes I was following textbook distances too!

PS Have you forgotten 5th Ave?? So soon??
Wheres that?