Geez the guy in the loaded truck got it... Must have had his load get him. Thats the scary part of hauling logs... especially big logs.

My condolences go out to the the mans family.

I know for a fact the trucks on that route go way too fast. I travelled that route before christmas and they are travelling well over 100km/hour and that road is pretty narrow in the spot where the accident happend max 50km/hour. I know folks in the fort who have had issues about speeding logging trucks on that road.

the road was really icy so that probably didn't help.Neither truck was from Fort St.James so maybe they didn't know the road to well either as it is narrow where the crash occured.Another very sad day

My condolences to the family. A wife and kids left behind, I hear.

If there was an issue of speeding trucks on that route the contractors would have been notified. Yes the road was narrow where the crash occured. I too have travelled that route. A concern of mine would be drivers that HOG the road and lack of mile markers.

Sad but true. People are travelling too fast for the road conditions, and tragedy is frequently the result. I hear that there is going to be another push to "make the forest sector safer to work in" including drivers. I think we can save them a lot of money in one area; driving. Implement measures to guarantee that the drivers slow it down. I know there has been a lot done in the last couple of years on this very topic, but it is apparently not enough, because drivers are still crashing, and in my mind, most (or all?) of the accidents would not have occurred if they were driving slower.
Same issue with these 15 passenger buses; It is beginning to look like they will be illegal to drive soon, due to safety issues like rollovers, well if you slow it down, it is a lot less likely to roll over isn't it? It is typical, this moronic reaction to a perceived hazard.
metalman.

I have some sympathy for the log haulers becasue the amount of hours they can do in a day have been reduced by law. This hourly reduction vs the amount of loads they can bring in on a long distance haul are conflicting so they will be pushing the envelope on speed to make a sencond or third run. Reduced hours=reduced loads=reduced weights= reduced $$ for the driver. When there is cut backs in the industry or increases in stumpage rates the log haulers and contractors feel the pinch. The old saying goes "shit runs down hill" and the loggers are the bottom of the hill.

Yeah, I hear Canfor cut the rates for their contractors by 5% or they would have been shut down like a bunch of the other mills......so now where are the contractors going to cut their costs? Its not like Esso or Husky is going to cut what they charge to them.

Yup, Canfor is to blame, good call gitterdun.

There are many people to blame for why accidents happen. I currently haul logs on the north road. I know where the crash happened and I have hauled logs enough years to know precisely what happened after I saw the pictures of the two trucks and the markes in the snowbanks. Who's to blame? first it is a combo between the forestry and the highways department. Why the hell are there not km marker signs on that road? From 51 km corner back to 80 km where there are signs posted, has to be some of the windiest road I have ever traveled. There is no way to know if someone is coming, except for at night when you can
"Headlight Hunt", as we truckers call it. The corner where the two trucks met is narrow enough that it is just so - so that you can meet there at all. So how will it look then when two drivers, at 3:30 in the morning, driving the POSTED speed limit, which is 80 km/hr, meet in a sharp corner not knowing that the other one is coming? I will not mention the details described to me by someone who saw the inside of the loaded truck AFTER it crashed. The bottom line is if the two trucks were stopped they would not have crashed - SPEED WAS NOT A FACTOR.
Next to blame is Worksafe. They say that it is a government road and therefore we truckers need to drive to accomodate the samll vehicles without radios, I couldn't agree more. Although this theory is correct, it is thought up by some stupid "pecil pusher" who has no idea about logging in general, never mind what actually goes on in the logging industry - they live in fantasy land. I have never travelled a logging road where truckers, who have 2-way radios, don't let the entire listening world know where a small vehicle is currently travelling without a radio. To me that is SAFE, for everyone. How are we truckers to let others know where the public vehicles are if we don't where we are? I guess Worksafe didn't think of that.
I have seen and experienced, over the years, many times when roads were not plowed, rates were cut, employers pushed employees to hard, money wasn't spent for road improvement, driver training wasn't implemented, drug and alcohol testing wasn't done, and key people in power turned a blind eye to many problems that we truckers face day to day. The only sad, yet blatant fact that we can conclude is " Our safety depends on a budget". If there isn't money, "Sorry guys we'll just dump the shit on you".