HATS OFF TO THE LITTLE AMPHIBEX THAT COULD.

GITERDUN, PERSONALLY I LOVE IT WHEN YOU YELL!!!!

GO AMPHI GO!!!!!

:)

Oh Ugh, starting Sunday it is going to get colder again!

Did the Tonka toy do anything yet? Hmm i heard it was not doing anything more than getting a few people rich....And it came all the way from down east...wow thats a tuff pill to swallow...not even a local solution....well what else is new..Where do i buy shares in this lil toy....

When the ice starts to flow down the Nechako, will it not just pile up when it gets a few hundred yards into the Fraser? It's looking as solid as an ice rink right about now.

[getajob
Did the Tonka toy do anything yet? Hmm i heard it was not doing anything more than getting a few people rich....And it came all the way from down east...wow thats a tuff pill to swallow...not even a local solution....well what else is new..Where do i buy shares in this lil toy....]

Do you not listen to the news or read? There is a 4 km channel in the lower Nechako, this is the most progress we have seen in the past 47 days.

Seems there may be an open channel (4km at last count....but when I drove the fraser south of the Simon Fraser bridge it seemed frozen from shore to shore. So we have open water between 2 frozen bodies. So I went to Foothills bridge and it's even higher than this AM...city is even raising the berm road to the new well that serves the Hart Highway.Also the raising of the dike at morning place ...so here we go....continue moving up the river until we finally have a totally open channel then a sudden surge and next you know we have all these mobile homes at Ponderosa Trailer park are floating and their septic tanks puking into the Fraser. The next natural obstacle is the Red Rock Canyon and God forbid the ice gets jammed there.
I think we should send the Environment people on a study course somewhere and when they're all away blow the ice south of Simon fraser bridge at least to the open water...and work our way upstream before this thing becomes a bigger monster than it is... And in the meantime call Quesnel and put them on notice.

"Do you not listen to the news or read? There is a 4 km channel in the lower Nechako, this is the most progress we have seen in the past 47 days."

Ok... yes i have and also i have people that call me from PG and i don't see any huge praises from anyone that is close to this project.Lets just call it for what it is A FLOP...send the lil toy back east or to Bubbablues for the kidos to play with.

And i once again echo the dynamite method...but it is what it is....

By the time they get to the point where it will make a difference, the path they made will freeze over again...stupid stupid stupid

getajob, silverpete, NMG. You should be careful when you take a alternative point of view on this site. You run the risk of being accused of being negative.

Having said that I agree with most of what has been said. At this point in time I dont beleive the Amphy has made any difference.


Hopefully they will continue to exercise due diligence as they are working in a very unsafe situation. All hell could break loose at anytime.

I was reading the Prince George Citizen web site and there is an article about previous ice jams. They used dynamite years ago

http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114796&Itemid=557

A large part of that article takes information from this site the articel mentioned

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wsd/public_safety/flood/pdfs_word/floods_landslides_north.pdf

On page 14, and also quoted in the Citizen it states:

“Some persons report extreme high water and ice shoves occurring frequently about the first of January. I am inclined to the view that at great intervals, the territory is more endangered by ice shoves and resultant high water overflow, than by the June-July freshets.

……….. The scourings of the Nechaco Flats and the channel surrounding Connaught Park (making an island of a large part of Prince George, a part of South Fort George together with a part of the lands of the Hudson’s Bay Company) bear testimony to the battle of the waters of the two rivers, either in ice throes or in spring flood. ….

The river we imagine frozen from shore to shore and the junction of the two and down to a trifle below the railroad bridge, then generally open through the narrow section to below South Fort George, then closed again.

Owing to windy weather frazil ice will have been forming for some time on the rapids above, in both rivers. This floating down, adheres to the underside of the sheet across the river, slowly constricting the channel. For several clear cold nights anchor ice forms. A slightly warmer day comes, when the anchor ice rises, and, floating down, adds to the underburden and overburden of the sheet ice, and the water of the river must find some other outlet than the ordinary river channel.

This it obtains across the Nechaco Flats and round Connaught Park hill, falling back into the main channel below the Hudson’s Bay quarters (Prince George Citizen, November 29; December 2, 1921)"

A someone said back in December, the escape route has been locked. We need a re-open that and make it a linear park feature of the City, or we need to build another such channel that picks up water from west of the foothils bridge and drops it into the Fraser at the slough.

Otherwise, we simply have to move the CN tracks and the industry and give the river proper room.

I also notice that in the flood of 1949 we had basically the same problem as now, the news was Canada wide, and the province was willing to put in 1/3 of the cost of fixing the situatiion and was looking for matching funds form the feds and CNR.

So, we have come a long way in close to 60 years.

I also see that the raising of River Rd has been a constant mantra of the city, much to the dislike of people living or working around there.

I assume that in 2078 the pople around then will still be batting their heads against the nearest tree due to lack of action ......

LOL people talking so much crap without knowing what they are talking about.

Exactly. They all offer some great solutions too.

Some of my favorites:

1). dynamite, explosives, blow the crap out of the whole river, sending ice shrapnel flying everywhere, and reforming the ice jam in a more artistic manner

2). send the excavator back right now before it's finished

3). long reach excavator (apparently, they come equipped with 1/4 mile long booms)

4). do nothing

5). wrecking ball and crane

6). a machine on a barge, which won't be able to navigate the river without getting stuck on gravel bars

So, in spite of some people's claims that city hall has had some brain farts, it appears that a lot of residents of the city don't do much better.

My all time favorite plan is for all the people that think they can do better, to show us and stop telling us.

hmm maybe with some luck the big earth quake will hit and solve the issue...ad that one to the list.....seriously i do hope it gets fixed regardless of how...main thing is it just brought us all closer on brain storming ideas...even the stupidest can be the best solution.cheers from Vegas...........

One more favorite- put floaters on the tracks of a big track hoe, or the one about every male in town meet at the old bridge at a given time to pee into the river.