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Union Brass Talking Forestry

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Tuesday, March 04, 2008 09:36 AM

Prince George, B.C.-  The District Director of Area 3 of the United Steel Workers says 50,000 jobs have been affected by the collapse of the lumber industry in this province.

Steve Hunt, (shown in photo at right) says 10,000 direct jobs have been lost , but if you factor the workers needed to look after the industry and the figures climb by five times. People who work at 7-11 says Hunt, “don’t buy new pickups”.

Touring the province along with the President of CUPE, Barry O’Neill, Hunt told about 40 people gathered at a meeting last night in Prince George he recently watched raw logs crossing the border near Creston heading to US mills. “Companies such as Canfor have bought up saw mills as a way to circumvent the duties.”

In the old days Hunt says, “You had a social contract with the company; in return for the trees they manufactured lumber and jobs in that region”.

We are still selling lumber in the US says Hunt, maybe not as much but there is still a market.

“CANFOR and INTERFOR have spent $330 million in buying up mills in the US. They are producing lumber with the dollars we handed them in the duties that were returned. We are losing our sovereignty in this country over the woods industry” Hunt says.

Now what has government done?  The director told the meeting the province will lose $1 billion dollars from the forest industry this year and if that money doesn’t come from forestry then where will it come from.?

“This is the worst crisis in the forest industry that we have ever seen” says Hunt, “Look at Mackenzie, 70% of the people in that community are laid off. 5 of the Councilors from the town are laid off.”

Forestry, Hunt says , is the number one industry in this province “And if we lose that it will have a profound effect.”

    
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RAW LOG EXPORTS = corporate profits = you have no job and you lose everything.
How do we stop these raw log exports, if we want to keep jobs here we have got to do something! So now we all no how Canfor really operates!!!
CANFOR - Uproots your community.
Raw log exports have been going on for years and it has always been a sticky issue.
Maybe it's time it was stopped once and for all.
If there are buyers for the logs,they can also buy the lumber.
We need to stop exporting our resources!
It's all a part of finding a new way to do things in the face of a declining B.C.forest industry and raw logs are as good a place as any to start!
We dont only export raw logs We also export share profits that should be used to develop secondary industry. The foreign investment review board is gone. Who is to control investmets in Canada. Well none other then the Canadian Council of chief Executives led by none other then the great Thomas DAquino and the PC's are waitning in the wings for him to lead them.

When will we learn if ever. My home and native land.

Cheers
Does anyone know where to find the amount of raw logs being exported, by region?

Also, where are they going and what is being made with them?

I need to understand how whoever is taking the logs is making money off them.

I have a hard time thinking that some foreign mill can outperform our relatively high efficiency mills, particularly when you consider the transportation costs to get them wherever they are headed.

I heard one of these union clowns on the radio talking about replanting of seedlings. I was actually embarrassed for his uninformed opinion. Don't expect much out of them.
When the cutting rights in Mackenzie were given to companies it was in exchange for jobs. If the jobs are gone so should the cutting rights. I will bet anyone that if these cutting rights were sent out for proposals we could find an entrepeneur who could find some jobs with these cutting rights.
Realitysetsin
Canfor and Interfor have bought mills in the USA and are shipping raw logs down there. There are no tariffs on raw logs like there are on finished products. The companies make a killing and we lose our jobs. We need to make it illegal to export our raw logs out of the country.
Also raw logs have been shipped to Japan for years from a port facility in the Vancouver area named Berry Point.
http://www.fanweb.org/archives/west_fraser/background.html
Do a google search on raw log exports and you will find lots of good info on it. As well as the political parties and politicians that are for it and against it.
Sounds like a really good election issue for our mayors and councilors as well.
STOP RAW LOG EXPORTS NOW
What mills ahve canfor bought?

check your facts- the fraser mills are Yellow pine- no export logs.
Canfor has bought mills in the US southeast. Which do NOT receive any raw log exports from Canada.

Interfor has bought mills in the the Pacific northwest. The previous owners of the one a Gilchist, Oregon, (Crown Pacific, a US company with no operations in Canada, a firm that had gone bankrupt), imported radiata pine logs from New Zealand. While there is plenty of US National Forest and Oregon BLM pine timber remaining in that area, it is difficult to access because 'environmentalist' law-suits keep challenging the legality of any timber sales put up.

Mills in BC have imported raw logs in the past, from both Washington State and Alaska. Sooke Forest Products accessed much of the hemlock it cut for years from across the Straits of Juan de Fuca on the Olympic Peninsula. Pulp logs were regularly imported from Alaska to feed BC coastal pulp mills.

To the best of my knowledge, Interfor's US mills do NOT receive raw logs from BC.
You could "stop raw log exports now", but it would likely have very little, if any, effect on the current problems faced by our lumber industry. Except, possibly, make them worse.

Since those still logging for export would then be unemployed, too. And, in many instances, lower grade wood, (on the Coast, at least), could not be removed from the forests economically at all without the additional revenue higher grade log exports bring in.

You have to remember that we have "gone Global" now. For better or worse. At present we're seeing the 'worse. Whether we'll ever see the 'better' is debatable. Personally, I doubt it.

Raw logs can be imported into any country that wants them from a variety of 'global' sources. And Russia, whose far eastern forests dwarf ours, isn't even really into the game yet.

So far we're just 'competing' in softwood, and not very well, with New Zealand, Chile, Australia, Uruguay, South Africa, and a few other countries who have faster growing cycles on their plantation wood than we could ever achieve; and the former Soviet bloc countries of northern and central Europe. Who are all desperate to earn 'foreign exchange' to modernize.
Are the US mills unionized? That is like waving a red flag at the union bulls.

40 people at the meeting? That is more than the attendance at a city council meeting. OK, 39 plus lostfaith. He seems to be pretty revved up on this one, Heehee!
Russia's lumber industry is gaining momentum. Guess why? Huge tax on export logs recently put in place. So instead of selling log to Finns, Swedes, etc. ,manufacturing is starting to take place and people are getting work. BC can only export surplus logs. The number of sawmills in this province has taken a beating. Less mills, more logs to export. I don't believe in "SURPLUS LOGS".
Doesn't anyone in Victoria have the cajones to say NO to raw log exports and open pen salmon farms. Two issues that a vast majority of BCers feel strongly about. But it isn't average BCers that contribute huge dollars to political parties.
Posted by: lumbertrader on March 4 2008 9:29 PM
What mills ahve canfor bought?

check your facts- the fraser mills are Yellow pine- no export logs.


Lumbertrader
If you can read english perhaps you should read the above story titled....Union brass talking forestry