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Teachers..Pay them now...or pay them later

By Ben Meisner

Thursday, October 13, 2005 03:59 AM


The teacher negotiations in this province can best be desribed as peeling  the first layer from an onion.  As you strip away one layer, you will quickly discover that trying to draw comparisons between what the teachers earn in this province compared to others, requires moe peeling to get to the core of the issue.

Teachers in Alberta do earn more than their BC counterparts.

In Ontario, where further comparisons are being made, teachers will earn more over the life time of their services, its all in the way that they are paid and set in various categories. 

There is a much larger problem looming on the horizon and the Liberal government seems to be trying to avoid that reality. 

Teachers in BC are aging.  In 2003 /04, two thirds of the teachers were over 45, there is a much more frightening statistic however, in 2003/04, 43% of the teachers were over the age of 50. That is where the rubber will hit the road, or in this case, the chalk will hit the board. 

Someone should point the Liberals in the direction of the doctor’s negotiations, they are asking for a further 10% increase in fees and their argument that there are not enough doctors makes the case very compelling. You either pay them what they seek or they set up shop in another province, let’s say Alberta that pays a better return. 

You don’t have to be a graduate of Mrs. Williams’s grade 9 math class to know that if you have a teacher shortage in this province the only way to replenish the ranks is by offering something other provinces can’t, namely money. 

It takes upwards of five years to get that teacher through the education system it would seem to make sense rather than reacting to a problem, you take some steps now to circumvent the problem.

The teachers in this province have received an increase of 10% in salary since 1998; they have been without a contract since June 2004. They received 2.5 % in 2001, 2.5 % in 2002 and 2.5% in 2003-04. You don’t have to break the bank to get them on side.  On the other hand, you do have to offer something other than a threat to send them back to work. T

his whole sordid mess could have been avoided had government taken the position that the negotiating system wasn’t working and they would need to pony up some money to make things work. Rather than trying to negotiate they took the hard line in saying it’s my way or the highway. The result has been that the teachers of this province have picked up the support of not only their members but a goodly portion of those who form the work force.  

That surely should have been paramount in the minds of our legislators when they embarked down this path.

I'm Meisner, and that is one man's opinion.

 

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I also would suggest that the problem has been accentuated by the tax breaks given to business on the basis of there being lots of money in the coffers at the same time as refusing a small amount of that money to deserving public sector workers.
Okay, where did I hear it wasn't about the money...?

Of course a raise in pay for our teachers would be the easiest problem of all to solve. The conditions our teachers are "working" under - that is a tougher issue to fix. We have parents who don't care, so we have kids who don't care, so how do we keep our teachers caring? More money? Doesn't work. You can't care enough to teach someone who doesn't care to learn. Before you go off on that one, ever ask a kid if he knows what his rights are? Ever read the discipline policies and procedures of a school? Some of them are 3 pages long!

So now you have larger classes of more kids who don't care and the kids who do want to learn have to struggle harder through the disruptions of the time wasters and the rule testers. We can't blame the kids either, we gave them rights, they are just exercising them.

But, what we can do is give the kids a choice...to learn or not to learn. If they don't want to learn, they can go sit in the hall, quietly. If they make noise and disrupt those who DO WANT to learn, they can go home, rightfully become their parent's problems. That fixes the babysitting problem, the class size problem, and the discipline problem. Oh, and it also forces the parents to realize just how intelligently they have been raising their children.
Ammonra,big business is what drives this province,if we don't have big business we don't have anything.You can have all the goverment giveaway programs you want,if you don't have some one there to pick up the tab at the end of the day, you/we are screwed.Everyone wants their piece of the pie and rightfully so,people seem to forget how bad a mess this province was in when the NDP idiots ran the show.The BCTF chose to back the losers in the last 2 elections and now Gordie is just giving them a little payback,personally I think ol Gordo is being a little to kind to the BCTF.
ROCK
Gordie is "paying them back" for exercising their democratic rights! Since when is that a reasonable thing to do in a free society. Still, you are probably right, he is a self serving pompous little vengfull twit after all, isn't he?
rock is part of the 27% that voted Gordo and his goons into power. Not a big number of people out of 2 million voters. Try to put this into perspective rock--you're part of the minority! The majority of the people don't think like you. Sucks to be you.
Yah it sucks to be me,at least I'm making more than $50 bucks a day,oh oops sorry 0 bucks a day.I don't know where you get your numbers from but hey your entitled to what you want to believe.What I do know is that when the NDP morons were in power things were not good.Just my opinion.Ammonra Gordie is what he is,but I will take him over those NDP scumbags any day of the week.
ROCK
i am concerned for the kids....who is fighting for them...for the ones who do want to learn....why do people become teachers? for the money? NO....because they supposedly love to teach, have patience that most don't, or they are gluttons for punishment....my point is, before you choose a career, research, research, research....make sure it is really what you want to do....my 7 year old wants to know when she can go back to school....what do i tell her?
Where were the teachers when class sizes were dwindling to the point that we could close down 14 schools? Where were the school boards during those same years? Who's problem is it? It seems that more people want to blame others for the problem than take responsibility for the solution. Let's face it, everyone played a role in the situation we are in and everyone should play a part in working out a solution. The only reason we need teachers is because we have students who want to learn. So, let's quit complaining, quit blaming everyone else and step up to the plate with some meaningful effort for resolution.
The whole public school teaching situation has to be reviewed and attitudes have to change. Why is it necessary for teachers to go to University for 5 years to teach K to grade 5. Years ago you only required a grade 13 education to teach these classes. Its seems to me that they had difficulty getting teachers to teach from grade 5 to 12 so they force all teaches to attend 5 years of University. This is a big waste of peoples time and energy. We should have lower standards and pay for teachers from K to 5 and higher pay and standards for teachers from 6 to 12 this would give us numerous teachers in the elementary classes, with incentives to teach the higher classes if you wanted more money etc.