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Warm Water Treatment Ended When Province Turned Off Money Tap

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Friday, March 28, 2008 03:59 AM

        

Prince George, B.C. -  Controversy continues to swirl around the River Rd berm.

The City of Prince George says Lyle Larson of the Ministry Of Environment recommended the City keep the berm in place. No so, says the province, we don’t own the road nor do we have any jurisdiction over River Rd beyond looking at a request by the city to have the grading of the berm paid for out of the Provincial Emergency Program.

Some companies who operate along River Rd say their business has been critically impacted by the berm which in some areas is up to 3 meters high. Some even suggest that River Rd was raised in order to accommodate the new Cameron St Bridge.

Not so says Frank Blues, Asset Management and Downtown projects. Blues says the new Cameron St. Bridge will not require River Rd to be raised.

The Province has been saying they have no jurisdiction over River Rd. "The emergency is over, and the gabion dikes will be removed just as soon as the frost is out of the ground. We cannot, nor are we interested in telling the City what to do with River Rd " Pat Bell, Minister of Agriculture said earlier.

The Province says the dikes are in many cases on private property and should be removed.

Bob Radloff, the  General Manager of  Development Services and Operations for the City,  said Lyle Larson of the Ministry  of the Environment had recommended the River Road berm remain in place.  On the other hadn, the Province says Larson does not have the authority to make such a recommendation.

At the same time it was learned that the warm water treatment (which  had the City construct a pipe line from Canfor pulp to the Nechako River upstream of the confluence of the Fraser)  ended after the Province said it would no longer fund the warm water treatment.

The cost of the project was about $400,000 dollars and the daily cost to operate the system was estimated at about $3,000 dollars. No official figures have been made available.

Requests for that information are delayed because the final figures are not  available according to Bob Radloff.  He  says the City is examining the warm water treatment in its flood studies because it was felt the Amphibex could not have broken open the ice jam had the water from the city wells not been applied beforehand.

Critics on the other hand say the opening of the river by that water was 100 meters away from where the Ampibex did open a channel, reducing water levels. Up until it was shut off,  the  warm water treatment  opened the channel only a few hundred meters downstream of where it was applied.   


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He said, she said. This is why contractors are not supposed to talk to the media during a state of emergency. Can't have free wheelin' actions being questioned until it is too late.

For years the city insisted a berm stay in front of my property, which would not allow the water to follow natural drainage to the ditch. I fought with the city for three years about the flooding that happened every year.

Finally I just went onto the city RoW and removed the damn. The city was really REALLY mad! But they could not replace it or make me replace it as under the Water Act that would be against my rights and interests, and an illegal act if the city attempted to replace the damn under the LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACT — [RSBC 1996] CHAPTER 323, Part 15 – Specific Regional District Service Powers Division 6 — Sewers, Storm Drains and Drainage.

The businesses along River Road face a stubborn and experienced administration. It could take years to resolve, the city has more money that they do, and no time limit, good luck.



Wow.

The government was tripping all over itself to help when Stanley Park had a few trees blown over.

Now, they don't even want to pay the $3,000 / day to heat some water?
Bob Radloff says that the Amphibex could not have broken the ice without the help of city water,,, What a crock of sh-t. This IDIOT should be demoted to litter picking.
The facts about River Road berm are simple
it was Colin Kinsley and his city manager Derek Bates that conceived the idea.
It was Bob Radloff as director development service whom acted on it and it were the three MLA and John Les that were warned by the busness not to fund it because it would become a disaster.....but they did!!!
At what point do these guys and girl stand up and admit that thy all screwed up and fix the problem.......that's my question
The water from the City pumping station under the Cameron St Bridge froze right up to the hoses so that icicles were in the river. This system did absolutly nothing and opened no channels.

These City guys seem to think they have a license to distort the facts.
C'mon Palopu you know all us p.g. folk are just naive and stupid.....

;) Yes that's sarcasm.

Maybe Amphibex can come back and clean up River Road too. It would probably be done months faster and cheaper!

:)
Funny, I got to have a look at the tender drawings for the Cameron St. bridge. Oddly enough the road elevation on River Rd. from the Cameron St. intersection all the way to the end of Brink is to be paved at the actual top of berm height, with a median island and new storm sewer system incorporated into it. This sort of contradicts what Mr. Frank Blues is saying doesn't it? Should be a little trying for Mr. Brink to get his forklifts accross the road to service the finger joint plant.
Unless those forklifts are licensed and insured they shouldnt be on a public road, in fact even if they are licensed and insured I suspect it is illegal to haul lumber back and forth across a public road.

I could be wrong.