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Who Ordered The River Road Berm Remain , Still A Mystery

By 250 News

Sunday, April 06, 2008 06:00 AM

Prince George, B.C. -  Over the past few weeks, Opinion250 has attempted to get the information on who called for the berm on  River Rd to remain in place during the spring thaw.

We also were seeking information as to when the warm water treatment into the river ended and what it had accomplished.

After 27 phone calls we contacted MLA Pat Bell who was able to secure some of the information. He also informed us for the first time that when the province cut the funding for the warm water, the city quit the program which was costing about $3,000 dollars a day. We have requested, but have not received, the final cost of that effort. (see previous story)

Opinion250 contacted Derek Bates, the  City Manager, given that we were being continually told by city hall officials that it was Lyle Larson (on behalf of the province) who had recommended the berm remain in place. Lyle Larson sat on the Emergency Operations Committee, a city committee that controlled the work that was to be done in respect to the flood of the Nechako. The Emergency Operations Committee was headed by City Manger Derek Bates.

The City’s General Manager of Development and Operations, Bob Radloff, advised City Council that it was the Province which had asked for the berm to remain in place until after the spring freshet.

The Provincial Emergency Program made it clear it had not made such  a request,  and the Ministry   of the Environment  passed along this response:

Ben, Derek Bates with the City is your contact for this. I believe he has provided you with the link to the City’s decision. This is the information Bates provided to the Ministry Of The Environment

Click Nechako Information..

Click Response..

Scroll down to Road Berms; the following quotation will be found:

"On December 31st and January 6th, river water levels exceeded the 200 year flood plain levels and in response the Emergency Operations Centre decided to construct earth berm diking in the Ongman Road and River Road areas and in some key areas, during the peak of flooding.

The River Road berm will stay in place until a permanent solution has been devised which is dependent on the long term study that is currently being negotiated between the City and the Province. The berm was a City street (River Road) which has been raised and is built to current Transportation Association Standards, and is considered safe."

This would suggest it was the Emergency Operations Centre which made the decision to construct the “berm” and that it is the City’s decision to keep it in place, not just until after the spring freshet, but until the long term study has been completed which would mean, the raised River Road would be in place until the spring of 2009.


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The lies will simply continue from city hall and our MLA's. Thy were all involved it was a way to suck free money from the provincial emergency fund to build a road
It were Kinsley,Bates and Radloff that cooked it up.It was Campbell that instructed the three MLA's to support it, (Gorden owes Colin big time for being his lead "sell BCRail fan")
When do the elected members of council ask some difficult questions of the senior leaders?


Not enough transparency. It appears that the City of Prince George is being run by a "one man show". Where is democracy in all this?

Thanks to your investigative reporting Ben perhaps daylight will come????

Oh yes, I agree when are Council members going to stand up for the citizens of the City?
I know who is responsible for the berm remaining. When Campbell visited the site there was a guy standing in the scene wearing an orange hard hat and a bright orange vest with a bright yellow cross in front and back. And he said sommething about the berm was union built and it would have to stay come hell or high water.

And thats a fact. Gatta go now.

Cheers
Perhaps a good time for another study to find out who decided what, when and where. Or an official inquiry or a royal commission.

Or an election.

It's getting a little weird the way elected officials and hired help are acting everywhere. Where do we enter into the picture or have they already made us semi-irrelevant?
Hell didn't come, but the high water did. I guess that's why they want to leave it there.
First of all, whose dumb idea was it to build a dike. The ground is all gravel. it will perculate out of the ground.

I want to know who signed on the dotted line, and which councilor supported the dike.

Simple solution, dredge the river where it joins up.
Winton Global voted by closing up their operations effective mid-June. It wouldn't surprise me if Brink did the same if that wall of mud was still in place through the summer. That would have the effect of closing most of the businesses in that stretch where the mud wall is located other than Papison and Dairyland at a cost of close to 600 jobs directly... just in time for civic elections.

It seems the city council strategy is to create as much dust as is possible off that mud road throughout the summer to skew the particulate count, so as to suggest improvements in air quality when they start burning wood waste in the downtown? Your guess is as good as mine. To replace the jobs they seem to be counting on the new casino as well as the new Sandman hotel...

I don't think the city strategy is a good one.

I think if it is the city strategy to kill off industry on River Road, for what ever end game, then the city should owes it to those long-time contributors of industry to this city (nearly a 100 years), to be up front with them on the cities plans.

If the plan is to remove industry along River Road for other types of development... then maybe the province should be paying brownout dollars to help industry relocate to higher ground preferably northeast of the city as anchors to a new industrial park and ring road. If it meant using tax dollars to implement a positive strategy on the up and up in the light of day... then I could support that. But I can not support a few million already wasted on a mud road that costs 600 jobs in an underhanded manor that in the end will have to be removed and sooner now that the danger is gone rather than later.

IMO work can be started on the river bank any day now and I wonder what the hold up is?
I could be wrong and may not have all of the facts, but i do believe there was a gala dinner last friday at the civic center for all of those involved in berm building and dyke construction for the flooding. this was apparently put on by the city of PG. Would our elected officials really be so obvious to spend our dollars this way?
"Hell didn't come...I guess that's why
they want to leave it there." The berm was not put in place until after the high water came. After strenuous objections from business leaders on River Road, after
promising in council chambers that more study would be done before the berm was completed the City went ahead & built the berm.
The first inkling anyone had that it was to be a long term bandaid was the first public info meeting at the Civic Centre.
Funny because the week before,our esteemed Mayor, in a written statement in the Citizen, said the berm would be out by late spring or early summer.
Winton Global is shutting down mostly because of market conditions, the berm is the final nail in the coffin. I'm sure that more businesses are to follow.
It is imperitive that we get these clowns out of City Hall. The disregard, outright disdain & lack of respect that
City officials have shown us, their constituents is appalling.
Final thoughts. Who will be responsible when the first vehicle, pedestrian or cyclist goes over the side of the berm & is injured? Is Winton Global being forced out because their Thermal Plant would be in competition with the City's? Why does the City have such a driving need to keep the berm in place when other options that are far less intrusive are available?