$250,000.00 and 2 years in prison.
LMAO, as if that will ever happen.
With the judges we have on the payroll.
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT don't hold your breath.
Sure makes the gov look like they are doing something though.

Never going to happen...nothing more than lip service and a waste of time.But thanks for thinking of us.

Sure sounds good, but for heavens sake you can beat someone w/ an axe and render them a quadroplegic and get two years house arrest in this province/country - shoot a bear out of season and you think they will give a brainless poacher a $250,000.00 fine AND 2 years behind bars - hahahahaha...what a joke. Guess it looks good on paper though...I would LOVE to see it though - Poachers are pathetic excuses for citizens! People who ruin other peoples lives or take their lives should NEVER see the light of day - EVER!

I think I like you robichal, we should meet for coffee and start up a new political party. We can call it the VRPC...
The Victims Rights Party of Canada. We can invite metalman to join and become our hangman.
OK, I know I'm just being silly.
Our political system, politicians, lawyers, judges and justice system absolutely suck in this country and something really needs to be done to wake these losers up to the facts of life. We the people are who they are supposed to be representing and carrying out our wishes. We are the people that pay them for their services. If we the people do not do OUR jobs the way OUR bosses want then we the people will lose OUR jobs. Did that all make sense?, nah couldn't have.

I agree poachers are pathetic especially the ones that kill pet bears when local farmers ask them not to. Some bears can live to be 40 years or more and once they know the norms they are not that bad to have around for some. Why a person with a hunting tag can go and sit on the edge of a persons property to kill the animal, and do it legally is beyond my comprehension.

There is no such thing as a "pet bear"...they are wild animals, it is illegal to try and keep any wild animal as a pet, and you do not have any legal authority to protect a bear from hunters just because you may think it's a teddy bear.

I guess we are onto "bear hunting". Why do people shoot bears? I have never been to someones house for dinner and we get served "roast bear"...gross!!! I think it very disrespectful to shoot a wild animal on someone ELSES property, legal, does not equal moral. My husband hunts every season, does it legally and carefully. Although I will NEVER understand how this killing can EVER be considered a sport, and how anyone (including my husband) can find joy in such a "sport". I always tell him to take a camera and shoot pictures instead of bullets - yah right! I eat meat so obviously I am not objecting hunting, but there is a right and wrong way to do pretty much anything. Hunting restrictions are there for a reason. Those are my thoughts :)

Actually bear is excellent table fare as long as it is not a garbage bear and the meat is properly cared for. The same as with any game or commercially produced meat products.

Jim13135 your absolutely correct.

Eagleone you are saying these poachers and local farmers were engaged in conversation and the farmer asked the poacher not to kill his pet bear?
So the farmer ID'd the poacher and turned him in right?
Unless you are just refering to a regular law abiding hunter as a poacher, who was asked by some farmer to, please don't kill the bear out there.
If thats what you are saying then we have a problem.

"We are the people that pay them for their services"

The two or three of you?? You got to be joking!!!!

I thought there were more people involved in that. I thought I was paying them as well. As there are many others.

In fact, that majority that votied them into power are likely all paying part of that. So, don't pretend that they have to respond to what you want. They have to respond to the entire population.

If they fail at doing that, then the next election they are out. In the meantime, them's the ones we got.

And ...... in this case they got it right and put something in there that should have been in there the last time. The penalty is really unimportant. Most such penalties in our system are not handed out. It is the MAXIMUM penalty. It is not THE penalty.

I know, a hard concept for some to wrap their brains around.

;-)

I cited the example of a few years ago the couple of cinnamon bears on Wright Creek Road. Very rare bears maybe 1 in 10,000, but the poachers like those kind of bears for their fur. The locals out there knew about these bears because they had been sharing their property for 20+ years without incident and they saw it as their duty to protect these bears from hunters. Word slipped out and a group of ignorant hunters showed up to kill the bears and the locals tried to intervene and asked them to leave and please not kill these bears as they were special to the people who had known them and lived next to them for over 20 years. The hunters ignored the pleas and claimed they had a right to hunt the bears because they had a bear tag and as it turns out the neighborhood could do nothing to stop them from killing the bears as soon as they walked of private property because the conservations officers wanted no part in the dispute. There are many bears in many other places that could have been hunted, and I think if a bear has a relationship with its community of humans and the humans object to his being killed then there should be laws that can protect that bear.

A pet bear was a loose term for a local bear that is still living in the wild but co-exists with its human neighbors without conflict. A black bear will never kill another animal... it will claim a kill from wolves or a dead carcase, but it will never kill another animal. A grizzly bear is an entirely different story.

A few years back I had a black bear that denned in the ravine beside my house and he was a large bear over 500 pounds.. he would come out in the day and roll around on the lawn in the sun, and at night sometime wander through the neighborhood a bit, but in 6-years of living there he never once caused a problem for the neighbors. I considered him my pet bear and we got along just fine.

The myth that black bears are dangerous is bread by ignorance and confusion with grizzly bears. Problem bears are usually the result of problem people not respecting the bears by leaving out garbage to habituate them to a lifestyle that ensures a future death for those bears.

Basically what I am saying is that Wright Creek Road incident was despicable and should never be allowed to happen legally IMO.

There should be a buffer of at least 5km from private property if a land owner does not want the animals near his farm hunted. A 7mm bullet will travel 10km and they don't always stop at the animal they are aiming at.

I am not into shooting bears that are not a problem. However, as i have poersonal experience with black bears i can tell you that they CAN be dangerous. The myth and ignorance out there is that they are not as dangerous as grizzly. In 20 years of working in the woods i have come across a LOT of bears, grizzly and black. I have had to scare of several blacks and was attacked by a male black bear ia a predatory manner (from behind). Please dont treat bears like domestic animals. They are all potentially dangerous.
Also black bears DO act as predators. One wiped out my sheep a couple of years back. Yes we witnessed the attack. Those sheep were bigger than most kids....

And before you ask: there was no garbage or foodstuffs of any sort tempting the bear inot my farm, unless you count the sheep themselves.

What about that old adage that goes something like this, "Shoot, shovel and shut up"? Too many laws, too many rules and too many taxes.

I find it hard to believe a black bear that was healthy killed your sheep. An injured one or a mentally sick one maybe, but not a healthy one.

A black bear only eats 5% of its food in meat and almost all of it is already dead when they found it. The only thing a black bear will kill is other predators trying to take its meal or harm its young.

A black bear can smell a dead carcase from 6 miles away. Ditto for your garbage.

A black bear does not like to be challenged and will usually back down to confidence out of natural fear of the grizzly bear that they have bred into them. A grizzly bear you don't even want to make eye contact with or you likely will not survive to talk about it.

If a black bear attacks you fight it off to survive, and if a grizzly bear attacks you play dead because they don't like to eat their meal right away.

A black bear will bluff charge you if it is nervous and feels cornered. Always if you stand up to a bluff charge they will turn away at the last moment. Sometimes they will bluff charge a number of times before going away. A grizzly bear will never bluff in its charge.

A black bear will snap its jaw when its nervous and stand up on its hind legs so that it can get a better smell of you in the wind. Most mistake this for aggressive behavior, but really it is just a sign of a scared bear likely getting ready to make its escape as soon as it determines the threat.

A black bear will bluff charge to protect its young, and if genuinely threatened a black bear will attack, but in 200 years of records across all of North America there is not a single recorded incident of a black bear attacking and then following through on killing a human unprovoked.

Many times when I walk in the forest I see the black bears hiding in the brush or hiding up in the tree tops (usually) and always they are aware of me, but they stay low-key and just try to avoid human contact until it has passed by. That is natural black bear behavior. I've been charged a few times myself. The most recent was an impressive sized black bear that ran at full speed through 2-feet deep water in a side channel when the salmon were running as my canoe unwittingly went between mother and her cub. My dog cowered and I stood up with the paddle as high as I could wave it and the bear turned back only feet from the canoe and went after its young through a bear trail in the underbrush. I think my canoe slipped in and surprised them where they least expected it. Had it not turned I planned to hit it in the sensitive nose with the paddle.

Personally black bears don't scare me. They are smart animals and they learn quickly what is in their best interest. Just never ever feed one thats all... and don't think you can pet one either.

The black bear that lived in the ravine next to my house in the hart was very smart and he would go up the street hiding behind bushes and cars as people walked down the road and cars drove by completely unaware the bear was walking through front yards hiding behind things to stay out of view. To see a bear in that mode is to see huge intelligence in a wild animal. Bears do this every night through out the city of PG in all parts of the city and 99% of the time we are completely oblivious to this fact.