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Lots Of Money Around But Little For the Displaced Forest Worker

By Ben Meisner

Monday, April 21, 2008 03:45 AM

What is so troubling about both the federal and provincial governments move in the collapse of the lumber industry in BC is the amount of help that is actually reaching the worker who is being displaced.

There are all sorts of plans in the works to change the economy, beetle round tables, various agencies, but what is available for the average worker?  So far the results being produced by the beetle coalition have been dismal at best.

Unless I have been reading from a different page, kindly show me where the man or woman being displaced in say for example Mackenzie, or Quesnel is being shown how to obtain extra financial help, be it EI, or any other program?

There are numerous examples of workers trying to branch into a different field , in some cases a business of their own only to be stymied in their efforts, by either a lack of knowledge of where to go to get through the hoops or a lack of information on how the system work.

Many of these people have worked for the same forest industry for the past 25 to 30 years, how can they be expected to know the ins and outs  of  what is available to help them  get on track?

Recently the United Steel Workers began a program of trying to help by hiring an employee to try and assist those in need of this type of help, but surely if the Union is being called upon to provide this type of assistance it would naturally follow that the government should be funding the program.

Last week government announced yet another grant towards a trade mission to China. The Chinese know where we are they also know when a mill has been forced to close. Just look around at who has been offering the fire sale prices.

Beyond those purchases, I for one must be in the dark in not knowing just what the successes have been in China with the numerous trade missions that have taken place.

I do know that we owe the Chinese a lot of money for the purchases we have made from them.

I also know that their lumber exports to this country have been increasing leaps and bounds and with that in mind it is hard to comprehend why we need to bring yet another trade mission on with a view to obtaining what?

I’m Meisner and that’s one man’s opinion.


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Good Job Ben!!

I couln't agree more!
China is a huge ancient country that would be a fantastic place to visit if one wanted to feel really important IMO.

On the other hand it was only a generation ago that Mao carried out the cultural revolution where over 100 million Chinese starved to death and the rest were taken out of their professions as the country sealed itself off from the world for mass re-education. Mass re-education consisted of the red guards sparing no-one in their abuse, torture, and political killings of anyone that they interpreted as slighting Mao. The entire country from peasant to the foreign minister and Mao's own wife were not spared the ravages of this in discriminant violence sanctioned by the state. At the time Mao talked crazy nuclear war talk where he was prepared to lose 400 million people, because they could not feed those people anyways, so countries like Canada opened up trade for wheat starting us down a slippery slope to full on trade with no checks and balances and with no moral responsibility.

Politically China today has not changed a single bit from the China of the cultural revolution (different faces same structure), which was the biggest crime against humanity in the 20th century.

IMO I don't think our low level municipal politicians should be going to China to be used as propaganda props by a ruthless regime. China once had 250,000 people line the streets to welcome enthusiastically an Ethiopian head of state as an example of how they use these things for propaganda purposes.

I think Canada should only allow federal politicians to talk trade with China due to the sensitive implications of doing business with a nation that does not share our core existential values. China with an unaccountable political leadership is the biggest potential threat to the freedom of mankind and the world itself.
Chinese troops patrolling the streets of Zimbabwe to protect Mugabee from stolen elections; while their guns, ammo, and rockets are all being held up at port in Durban SA... or the Durfur situation... are both prime examples of China's negative influence already on the freedom of man outside of China-Tibet.
Ben writes

"I also know that their lumber exports to this country have been increasing leaps and bounds"

Really? Where can one find more information on this Ben, anyone?
If this is true then it's scandalous and heads should roll, IMO.

Ben, you said it. My husband being employeed at the same mill for nearly 29 years is the perfect example.

I know he is not alone and the amount of anquish put on these types of workers is troubling. Through most of thier lives they have been able to rely on the forest industry to support thier families.

Whether driving truck, working in the bush, or local sawmills. It is was a good industry for men with no post secondary education to survive and make a living.

There are literally thousands of men..wringing thier hands..in despair.

All the funding I've seen so far only talk about the industry as a whole...and really will not have any effect on the adverage worker. The money they have spent this far..is just a waste.
Here's some resources for those looking to build a business.

Gov't Websites
Registering a new business: www.bcbusinessregistry.ca/introduction/index.htm
Business Startup Advice and Resources: www.smallbusinessbc.ca & www.e-bc.ca
Canadian Tradmark/IP Resources www.cipo.ic.gc.ca
Western Economic Diversification Canada: www.wd.gc.ca
Scientific Research & Experimental Development(Get reimbursed for Research & Development of new/novel ideas): www.cra-arc.gc.ca/taxcredit/sred/menu-e.html

Local-PG

Local Community Futures Office: www.cfdc.bc.ca
Focused on Inventions/Patents/Science/Technology: www.innovate.bc.ca

Investment, Angels, VC's

www.wutif.ca/angels/angelsinbc.htm
www.angelforum.org
www.newventuresbc.com


Online Resources/Publications

Business Community/Networking Online www.fastcompany.com
Start Up Nation, Ideas/Community Networking: www.startupnation.com
Canadian Business Mag Online: http://www.canadianbusiness.com/entrepreneur
US Based Business/Entrepreneur Mag Online: www.entrepreneur.com

Additional Links
innovate.bc.ca/irc/resources/sites/index.php

Others???
This time the links should work....



Here's some resources for those looking to build a business.

Gov't Websites

Registering a new business: http://www.bcbusinessregistry.ca/introduction/index.htm
Business Startup Advice and Resources: http://www.smallbusinessbc.ca & http://www.e-bc.ca
Canadian Tradmark/IP Resources http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca
Western Economic Diversification Canada: http://www.wd.gc.ca
Scientific Research & Experimental Development(Get reimbursed for Research & Development of new/novel ideas): http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/taxcredit/sred/menu-e.html



Local-PG

Local Community Futures Office: http://www.cfdc.bc.ca
Focused on Inventions/Patents/Science/Technology: http://www.innovate.bc.ca



Investment, Angels, VC's

http://www.wutif.ca/angels/angelsinbc.htm
http://www.angelforum.org
http://www.newventuresbc.com



Online Resources/Publications

Business Community/Networking Online http://www.fastcompany.com
Start Up Nation, Ideas/Community Networking: http://www.startupnation.com
Canadian Business Mag Online: http://www.canadianbusiness.com/entrepreneur
US Based Business/Entrepreneur Mag Online: http://www.entrepreneur.com



Additional Links
http://www.innovate.bc.ca/irc/resources/sites/index.php

Others???
Right on the money Ben!
With the Campbell gang,there is always money for "round tables",study programs,etc.etc.ad nauseum,but never very much for real PEOPLE.
Supposedly, all these things happen and that is the last we ever hear of them.
Of course, these things are always done to HELP people,or so they tell us,but that rarely ever happens.
Unfortunately,if these displaced people lived on the lower mainland somewhere,there probably WOULD be programs to at least help them work through the maze of redtape and paperwork that always seems to come with losing ones job,re-training,relocation, etc.
Been there, done that, and they could do a LOT more for those affected, without question!!
Why should people impacted by the woes of the forestry industry be treated any differently from people who suffer the same fate at other jobs? What about auto workers? What about IT folks from years back when the bubble burst in that sector? What about all of the BC government employees that got laid off in recent memory? What is unique about the forestry industry, other than the fact that it is now impacting our region? Is it any different?

That being said, I do agree that MUCH could be done to help impacted people become aware of existing programs that may be of assistance to them during these times.
The "lumber exports" to this country are not really lumber but wood products exports. The chinese export "value added" wood products.

In vogue, at the moment are bamboo products, a fast growing wood grown on farms and converted into veneered products for floor and wall cladding as well as furniture.

Here's an example.

http://www.plyboo.com/plywood.html#
Even with all the help available there is a very high failure rate amongst new small business startups. The bureaucracy alone that must be satisfied nowadays is often a cost that can't be quantified in any business plan. Not even one prepared by people who are already experienced entrepreneurs.

For someone who's new to the game, without much, or often any, previous business experience, and all too often starting out seriously undefinanced, (and who's already unwittingly sealed his doom because of that), the real risks are entirely out of proportion to the expected rewards.

I hate to sound so negative, but those who seem to do the best in business today are more often those who have perfected ways to peddle 'hype', (usually to politicians ~ about how many 'jobs' the new venture is going to create!) and personally pocket the proceeds, (from the 'help' those same politicians then trip over themselves to offer). Rather than those who actually want to build a business that honestly produces or delivers some needed or wanted good or service.
The article makes one wonder WHEN the $129 million (spread over 3 years) earmarked for B.C. is coming from the feds.


Maybe I will still live in B.C. when it does.Time will tell!