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Flood Risk Study Price Increased

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Monday, April 28, 2008 07:33 PM

Prince George, B.C. –River engineering specialists Northwest Hydraulic Consultants (NHC) have been retained to carry out the flood risk and mitigation study for the City of Prince George. 

The bill for the study has increased.

 

Initially, the Province had agreed to pay $200 thousand for the study, but now, the bill has nearly doubled and the Province has agreed to pay the extra $150 thousand for the study.

 

According to an update provided to City Council this evening, Northwest Hydraulic Consultants has “demonstrated significant specialty ice-related flooding knowledge of the Nechako River, in particular from their involvement on the ice jam events of 1996 and 2007-8.”

 

Northwest  had worked for Alcan  during the ice jam event of ’96.

 

The report to Council says Northwest has expanded its team for this study with four “sub-consultants” three of whom are local.  The locals have specialties in sedimentation, dyke construction, land use and risk evaluation and fish habitat.

 

NHC is beginning Phase 1, the flood risk evaluation, in the next few weeks.

 

According to City Manager derek Bates, the advice from the experts as to a  flood during the spring freshet, is that the situation is "neutral" meaning there is no greater chance than normal of a flood.   General Manager of Development and Operations, Bob Radloff says it is expected that  experts will be able to make some recommendations about the placement of a berm  either on River Road or closer to the Nechako River early on in phase one.  Councillor Don Zurowski also asked that efforts be made to dredge the Nechako.  Radloff says the late winter is having an impact on the efforts to clear the River as it has delayed their efforts to get in to the River that is  the main reason why  there  is no detailed schedule for  Phase One.  The removal of all the flood control works  are considered a "response cost" says City Manager Derek Bates so the cost of  the removal  of the berm on River Road would be covered by Provincial funds.  As for when that berm would be taken down,  the City Manager could not offer any information.  Councillor Brian Skakun says a lot of the concerns expressed by the businesses are real "I think we have to mend some fences and let the people know when that berm is going to come down."  The Mayor says  he is aware  one of the chip trucks "tilted  but it was not on our engineered  access or egresses  it was on a private  one."  He is referring to a  truck which nearly  rolled  when it came off  River Road on to one of the ramps .    Radloff says  the City offered to redo the shoulders but that the businesses said no, "I think it is because it would give further credence to the (idea of ) berm becoming permanent."


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I say fire everyone involved.
Does anyone know where we can find people with real brain cells that can actually just get the freakin job done. This is not rocket science people.
$350,000.00 for a study. Screw the study give me gravel trucks, bulldozers, excavators, and front end loaders and I will get the job done.
lostfaith- first you have to get rid of a lot of dead wood, maybe a bus ticket back to where they came from.
Look at the library - why is it on concrete piers? Federal monies involved so it had to be built above the flood plane. No surprise that PG has a flooding problem. Obviously it is general knowledge or it wouldn't be built that way.

Why are we hiring "consultants". UNBC has at least one faculty member with more practical and professional expertise in this field than could be dreamed for...but that would be a practical answer, and less expensive, so obviously would never be considered by those who "run" this City.
FYI The definition of an expert is "someone more than 20 miles from home carrying a briefcase". Should be able to find a lot of those for $350,000. Where does the line form for this money trough?
Remember anyone? The monument to justice, aka the Law Courts on George Street, when construction was delayed for quite a few weeks because once all the planning and posturing was done, and the engineering, and drafting, they suddenly made the discovery that the area is a 200 year flood plain. Well, you'd think someone would have told them that when they started! Could have asked anyone who has lived here a long time (non expert) or just looked at some old pictures. I have seen the pictures that show George St. under water in the spring, hell, a good part of the area would flood some springs, but the government types have to re-learn these things every time. That is because each successive generation is so much more advanced than the last. You would not want to rely upon out of date information now would you? Nope. They did not have computers, so they must not have known anything at all.
metalman.
"Look at the library - why is it on concrete piers? Federal monies involved so it had to be built above the flood plane. No surprise that PG has a flooding problem. Obviously it is general knowledge or it wouldn't be built that way."

The stupidest stories going around based on no information. We are into folklore here people.

In case anyone wants to hear it, here is what really happened.

There was a design competition to design a cultrual district in the 1979. To be included was, a library, an art gallery, a performing arts centre. The winning designer was to be the designer for the first building - the library.

The winning design was based on buildings raised on a plaza at roughly the same level as the main entrance of the Inn of the North. Below that were to be two levels of parking.

The library went ahead and was lifted to that level, with the intent to build the future addition to the library onto the west side cascading down two levels to grade at the location of the existing police parking lot.

The "stilts" are designed to have an intermediate slab added to them to be the second level of parking.

Subsequently some wise people came after the library was built and decided to build the Civic Centre there since a building housing some meeting spaces and athletic spaces was condemed and torn down.

THAT building, the Civic Centre, actually has its main floor built BELOW the 200 year flood plain.

Then , along came the art gallery and it was built above the flood plain.

And, all those wise people, after they chose a design that provided for parking, descided to instead remove parking with the addtion of each successive building, and then complain about the lack of parking in that precinct.

So, "now you know the rest of the story." Please pass that story on, rather than fictitious information.

http://www.lib.pg.bc.ca/node/181
"UNBC has at least one faculty member with more practical and professional expertise in this field than could be dreamed for"

And who might that be? Is he/she a professional engineer who has professional liability insurance?
I have said this once before.
All we need to do is take the advice of a bunch of children that have experience playing in puddles to get this job done.