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Carbon Tax Hits Nerve with NCMA

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Thursday, May 08, 2008 04:07 PM

Prince George, B.C.- Delegates to the Northern Municipal Association have endorsed 7 different resolutions dealing with the carbon tax that is to be imposed by the Province.
 
The resolutions refer to the carbon tax as discriminatory as northerners use of fossil fuels is not discretionary it is a necessity.
 
The Mayor of Dawson Creek, Calvin Kruk,  called for the 7 resolutions to be deferred until more data was available. He said the material in the resolutions is anecdotal, and there needed to be scientific data to support the arguments that northerners will be unfairly taxed because of the need to heat homes and businesses.
 
He stood alone on that idea as one Quesnel Councilor stepped forward to say   the item is time sensitive and his research indicates that for his city, the tax will add another $25,000 a year, he added that for West Fraser, the carbon tax will add $1.4 million dollars per year to the operations of their mill in Quesnel, a further $25,000 to the School District in Quesnel and $80,000 to School District 57.
 
Prince George Councilor Brian Skakun said it is important to send a strong message to the government, that the “one size fits all approach  without consultation doesn’t fit for the North.”
 
Prince George Mayor Colin Kinsley says the Province will never approve a tax exemption for the north, but  he hopes there will be some suggestions for mitigation “For Prince George it will mean an extra $70 thousand dollars to the annual fuel bill, and another $35 thousand to heat our buildings. If there was a way to get that $110 thousand dollars back through some sort of rebate perhaps to go towards improving transit, that would be a more positive way.”
 
 

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If these figures are accurate and they probably are,we need to go to war!
It is one thing to tax the fuel we burn in our vehicles, but the fuel we use to heat our homes and keep our families warm should be untouchable!
Just shows how little the Campbell clan really care or know about people in the northern part of the province!
Somebody get a rope!
The new carbon tax isn't going to affect us that much according to Carol Taylor. Remember she said we'd all get a check for $100.00 and the other portions we would get back with tax cuts. Surprize! City and other community taxes will go up above and beyond the carbon tax. We'll all be tax poor in a matter of years. All in the name of the Olympics
There should have been extensive consultations before the implementation of the carbon tax and a gradual phasing in period.

The carbon tax is designed to be revenue neutral and those who use less carbon based fuels will actually save money and stay ahead of the game!

The question is how do we go about using less?

"All in the name of the Olympics."

The Olympics can't be the scapegoat for everything that happens...what are we going to blame our problems on after 2010? The Calgary Winter Olympics actually paid for themselves. These Olympics may do the same. I wasn't in favour of B.C. taking on this huge 2010 obligation, just when we were recovering from the Dismal Decade but for heaven's sake, the whole world expects us to be the best hosts we can possibly be!

If my taxes go up a bit, so what! I am paying extra income taxes to rebuild an Afghanistan which was bombed into oblivion by a *friendly* power and I can't even object to paying my share of the taxes for that effort because it would be politically incorrect.

At least in the case of the 2010 Winter Olympics I am paying for something Canadian!

Cheers!
Chasing CO2 is bad and unproven science. There is more and more science comming out each day debunking so called man called global warming. Mans contribution to CO2 is something like .14% . If all measures are taken that are planned to reduce CO2, the temp. in 100 years will only be reduced .5 of a degree. The UN even admits that the earth is now in a cooling trend.

Global warming is being pushed because of the money being made off it. Is India or China applying a carbon tax. While our economy goes down the tubes chasing carbon thiers is increasing. Folks wake up, do some research, we are being taked for a ride.
Seamutt, do you have a scientific verdict on methane's (CH4) contribution to global warming? How about sulfur dioxide and mercury emissions caused by the combustion of fossil fuels, especially coal? And the effects of acid rain on flora, fauna and the waters of lakes, rivers and the oceans, coral reefs etc. Acid rain is caused by sulfur dioxide emissions into the atmosphere during the combustion of fossil fuels.

If the reduction of carbon emissions leads to a reduction of sulfur and mercury pollution wouldn't that by itself be worth the effort?

The oil and coal industry is just as determined to keep selling its products as the tobacco industry was while it was ridiculing medical evidence that smoking can cause lung cancer and other diseases. The industry apparently paid so-called medical experts to denounce any medical evidence as bad and unproven science.

Obviously one day the world will run out of fossil fuels as the reserves are limited. How about starting to reduce consumption now by switching over to renewable energies?
don't like taxes?
check out thinkfree.ca
The more I think about it, the more I agree we do not need a C tax we need a PM (particulate matter tax) and an ozone tax, and we need to apply the proceeds to the health care system.

No dispute about the effect of PM and ozone on the health of the public I hope .....

Carole Taylor’s tax grab...aka Carbon Tax, is not meant to get British Columbians’ to use less energy. In fact, all they will accomplish is to make BC Families pay more. This Liberals carbon tax on all fossil fuels, including gas, diesel, natural gas, coal, propane and home heating fuel, will, make no mistake, hit consumers and businesses hard. But BC Families will be hit the hardest. This Liberal carbon tax will mean even higher pump prices, costlier home heating bills and more expensive products, including food. The Liberal Government says it will be "revenue neutral, but it certainly isn't neutral for families. These higher energy prices will hit families with kids the hardest. The sole purpose of this Liberal Government Carbon Tax is to "Green Wash" the Liberal Party as environmentally conscious party. “We promised you green and we will deliver you green," said Carole Taylor. This is about sounding green but doing nothing.
"...is not meant to get British Columbians’ to use less energy."

It is meant to get British Columbians to replace energy produced from GG carbon emitting fossil fuels with energy produced from non-polluting sources like wind, solar, hydro, wave, tidal and geothermal.

If you replace your gasoline powered car with an electric car which is recharged by plugging it into an outlet which has electricity supplied from a hydro power station or a solar panel you will not be paying the new carbon tax on gasoline.

You are thumbing your nose at Carol Taylor.
Well said Seamutt. I'm not sure about the object of the exercise of the carbon tax but the fact of the matter is...when we give the use of our money to a bank or a government, it's huge money in their pockets even if it's on a short term. Revenue neutral? They still have the use of our money.
Read Peter Ewert's analysis of the carbon tax . If you haven't done so,I recommend it. He writes an excellent column right here on Opinion 250.

I think our government in Victoria should spend one winter sitting their session in P.G. or Dawson Creek or FS John. The heating bills would be an awakening for them. Let the government sit there for one winter. Try to heat that drafty old stone building in Victoria when the temperature is -30 degrees.

$100 cheque? That's an insult! Considering what this carbon tax is going to cost us Northerners. I think we should tell them to put it where the sun don't shine. Send it back. I will. That will be my little protest.

The fact of the matter is we have to heat our homes and we have to eat. Those two items are going to hit us very hard.
CARBON TAX DIVERSION-- gordy is only doing what the banksters puppet strings make him do, the same goes for steven in ottawa, the national debt is 330 billion plus the provincial debt is 40 billion plus, thats why we are helping the u.s. banksters to set up afghanistan for mineral looting(see usgs preliminary assessment of non-fuel mineral resources of afghanistan,2007 )once your country is in debt you will do as your told no matter who your leaders are,this u.s. imperialism knows no borders.presently they have 69 other countries in debt by either war reparations or stupid politicians, how do we regain control-PAY OFF THE DEBT-and send the banksters back to new york! this is exactly as machiavelli
predicted in the 14th century, cause thats what the romans were doing.it makes me shudder when the body bags come home it must make steven's concience boil knowing this,bring the troops home and stop being a pawn steven.
The only green here has nothing to do with the environment - it is purely the green of our wallets.
The US operates and/or controls between 700 and 800 military bases Worldwide.

There is a presence of US military personnel in 156 countries.

The US Military has bases in 63 countries. Brand new military bases have been built since September 11, 2001 in seven countries.

In total, there are 255,065 US military personnel deployed Worldwide.

The altruistic idea behind the BC Liberals carbon tax is, as the cost of all fossil fuels goes up, people (who can afford too) will look to energy alternatives that are less harmful to our climate. “We promised you green and we will deliver you green," [Carole Taylor]. But B.C.'s carbon tax will add only 2.4 cents per liter to the cost of gasoline on July 1, 2008, rising to 7.2 cents by 2012. Undoubtedly this is the right direction but it's not nearly enough. The BC Liberals Carbon Tax is politically designed to have minimal impact; they [BC Liberals] are still dedicated to antiquated notions of economic growth at any cost. The only positive thing about B.C. Liberals carbon tax is the fact that it is on the table for all to see. So see it for what it really is a “green wash” from a political party that wants you to believe they are environmentally conscious. This is about sounding green but doing little to nothing. Tuesday May 12, 2009 is a chance for BC to make a real change.
Bond: "This is about sounding green but doing little to nothing. " If the Liberals did more you would complain it's too much. If they did less, you would complain it's too little. Now that you have set the scene by complaining about what they have done so far, how about letting us know what YOUR or the NDP's solutions are? If possible, before election day.

You have the floor. Let's have it!
To comply with such a request would only dignify the ignorance you readily and willingly found the need to share. This is an “opinion” page and it would seem that my “opinions” have cut close to your political wick. So I will leave with this “The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw