The speed limits are posted on the side of the road and so if it says 100 then that must mean I can go 100 even if it is not safe, says the mentality of many, or then of course there are the macho in the big 4×4 and they are sure they are invincible. Shame this whole world is in such a hurry to get where they might never reach if they drive like idiots.

I think that those who travel 40 in a 60 zone are just as dangerous as those who do 80 in a 60.

Im not speaking for all the 4×4 owners, but again, that is not a big bad 4×4 in the ditch.

And the public urges, YRB, we dont ask for much, just do your job.

Those going 40 in a 60 zone when the conditions are not ideal are not as dangerous as those who do 80.

It’s the attitudes of the people who think that everybody should drive as fast as they want to go, and anybody going a bit slower is in their way that are dangerous.

If you are not comfortable with the road conditions, slow down. Do not drive outside of your skill and comfort. And everyone else, mellow out and understand that not everybody is as smart and talented as you are behind the wheel.

“Those going 40 in a 60 zone when the conditions are not ideal are not as dangerous as those who do 80.”

You’re right; they’re probably more dangerous. Have you ever pulled alongside someone doing 40 in a 60 zone simply because there’s a little snow on the road? They are completely and utterly oblivious to their surroundings. Their eyes are fixed straight ahead and that’s all they see.

These are the people that will slam on their brakes when they get to a corner or they’ll slow down when they get to a hill. That truck coming up behind you (the one you don’t see because you’re fixated on that spot 10 feet in front of you) does not want to stop on a hill.

I think that if you’re to scared to drive on a little bit of compact snow that you should walk. Or take the bus.

And yes, people who drive too fast for the conditions are idiots as well. Unfortunately there is no shortage of idiots in this town.

“anyone driving slower than me is an idiot, anyone driving faster than me is a maniac”
:)

axman – who decides what is too fast or too slow? Does the truck behind me tailgating get to decide, just because he wants to go faster and feels like he could? Who gets to decide who the idiot is?

Last night when I was driving home with good solid winter studded tires, I was slipping and sliding due to the freezing rain and I was one of those drivers – both hands on the wheel, eyes wide open, trying to keep my vehicle on the road in horrible conditions while also tryng to avoid the “idiot” who was trying to blast by me.

So, who is the “idiot”? Me, because I could feel my car sliding around and was taking appropriate measures, or was the big truck the idiot for blasting by, fishtailing while he was at it, and putting myself and others in danger? I’m quite certain he thought I was the idiot – maybe that could have been you!? ;). The funny thing is that at the end of it, I just met him at the next traffic light! So really, who’s the idiot again?

Oh and by the way, you are supposed to leave enough space between vehicles to allow for sudden stops, so if someone slams on the brakes and you hit them, tough luck for you! They could just as easily be slamming on those brakes for a pedestrian, or to avoid another vehicle. If this is actually a problem for you, I would suggest you are travelling far too close to the vehicle in front of you and that you should back off.

Why people who so obviously lack patience and tolerance are even on the road, especially in tough conditions is beyond me and I think THEY should stay home! :)

Guess I`m an idiot too.

I`m a road star gold And drive for conditions so all you impatient drivers will be blowing by me also.

I don`t think I`m an idiot for being a slow driver on icy roads though…I`m and idiot cause I still have to pay more insurance every year because of you douche bag drivers.

“So, who is the “idiot”? Me, because I could feel my car sliding around and was taking appropriate measures, or was the big truck the idiot for blasting by, fishtailing while he was at it, and putting myself and others in danger? I’m quite certain he thought I was the idiot – maybe that could have been you!? ;). The funny thing is that at the end of it, I just met him at the next traffic light! So really, who’s the idiot again?”

Sounds like you were out driving when you shouldn’t have been.

And no, it wasn’t me who was following you. The roads were terrible last night so I stayed home.

“Oh and by the way, you are supposed to leave enough space between vehicles to allow for sudden stops, so if someone slams on the brakes and you hit them, tough luck for you! “

This mentality cracks me up. The guy tailgating you is a jackass but you really should get out of his way. If he plows into you and you die it won’t really matter one bit to you who was at fault. Let him by and hope that when he ends up in the ditch he’s not taking anyone with him.

“This mentality cracks me up. The guy tailgating you is a jackass but you really should get out of his way. If he plows into you and you die it won’t really matter one bit to you who was at fault. Let him by and hope that when he ends up in the ditch he’s not taking anyone with him.”

Get out of his way? Being in the right hand lane isn’t out of his way? I never said I was holding him up, he was just being an inpatient dangerous ahole who decided to bully me on the road. I was driving like I was supposed to, just happened to be below the posted speed limit. The roads were bad, visibility was bad. I think the truck would have preferred to be in the right lane, but he wasn’t patient enough to stay there.

Why shouldn’t have I been driving? I didn’t do anything wrong. I drove according to conditions of the road.

axman, you seem to like to blame the person erring on the side of caution, which indicates to me that you may be a hothead behind the wheel and lack the very patience and tolerance required out on the nasty roads. You shouldn’t be driving in that state of mind at ANY time ;) It is drivers like you, who seem to think you make all the rules for everyone else, that are a danger on the roads.

Speaking of idiots, just like to say hi to the idiot in the grey Dodge pickup that slid through the Domano-McGill intersection at 6:40 this morning. Fine piece of driving, moron.

i drive in the slow lane so people can go past me if they dont like my speed but i will no ull into a snowbank for some tailgater? leave early, or even better use the passing lane.
i really cant understand the way people try to justify putting ohers in harms way?

For those of you that think that going 40 in a 60 zone is dangerous, you should check out what every police officer says about road conditions. “Drive according to road conditions.” There are times when 60 km is too fast, doesn’t matter that you are allowed by the law to go that fast, it is too fast for road conditions.

Are some people really that stupid?

“axman, you seem to like to blame the person erring on the side of caution, which indicates to me that you may be a hothead behind the wheel and lack the very patience and tolerance required out on the nasty roads. You shouldn’t be driving in that state of mind at ANY time ;) It is drivers like you, who seem to think you make all the rules for everyone else, that are a danger on the roads.”

I’m not blaming anybody for anything. I’m giving you some advice. There are a lot of crazy people out there behind the wheel; it’s best to just avoid them regardless of who’s in the right.

You’re making a lot of assumptions about me. I’m probably one of the most relaxed people out there; I’m seldom in a hurry. The world won’t end if I’m 10 minutes late. :)

Its fine to go slow if your not comfortable with the road conditions but maybe you should pull over an let traffic by the is comfortable with the conditions. I often see 1 car holding up multiple vehicles an people start to get impatient and end up passing in unsafe ways. MOVE OVER!….

Sometimes its just not that easy. There are plenty of people out there who speed like a bat out of hell to get behind you then stay back there, blinding you with their lights for miles and miles. I’ve slowed down…pulled over as far as I could…even had some guy stop behind me when I pulled off the road and STILL these people persist in sticking it out back there.

I guess they must think that because I’m in front then I’ll be the first to die I suppose….

Ultimatley it comes down to one thing. Dirve the speed that you feel comfortable. Some folks feel more comfortable driving faster than others but there is no need to berate those folks who just don’t feel all that safe travelling on an icy road at 100 kph….

So I guess, slowing down for conditions, means slowing down to the speed limit in this town.

Yeah, I’m an idiot too. I drive at the speed limit, most of the time. Except on the hwy. north last night, slicker than you know what on a doorknob. There I was 5km under the limit, and oh so comfortable at that velocity.
Speaking of doorknobs, one of those in a black pickup passed me on said slippery highwaylike I was not moving at all. I wisely consulted my speedometer before stepping out to see why my vehicle had stopped moving.
metalman.

There’s a big difference between slowing down to account for the road conditions versus slowing down because you’re scared shitless. The latter should not be on the road.

“every police officer says about road conditions”

bornandbred – When did the police officers become road condition experts? Is that a course offered during their 6 month Regina training?

Maybe we need the speed signs that the Seattle freeway system has, the speed changes for the conditions. Icy roads? lower speed for everyone.

Travelled south one year and the road conditions were so bad that we were doing less than 40km on the highway along with other vehicles. Then comes along a “hot shot driver” that decided to pass 20 plus cars only to end up in the ditch. Before you say that we should have not been on the road if we felt we could only do 40km or less all the vehicles were travelling in differnt convoys for safey.

Every vehicle handles differently in slippery conditions. Tires, weight, driving skill, even where you place your tires on the driving lane, all come into play. One vehicle may have good traction to get going and then poorer traction for cornering.
Please, everyone, just calm down. We all inhabit this same world, we all have to get along, so lets be just a little bit courteous and understanding of others using the roads. It will be safer for everyone. Have a relaxed and happy weekend.