Inspected by a “Certified Technician”, if I can’t clean my own Chimney anymore I give up on burning Wood and turn up Hydro, has any one figured out what all that cleaning and inspecting cost ? Like I said ,if you can’t get your own Wood and do your own Cleaning it’s time to turn up the Thermostat or move in the Old Age Home!

Inspected by a “Certified Technician”, if I can’t clean my own Chimney anymore I give up on burning Wood and turn up Hydro, has any one figured out what all that cleaning and inspecting cost ? Like I said ,if you can’t get your own Wood and do your own Cleaning it’s time to turn up the Thermostat or move in the Old Age Home!

I would like to know how many so-called older model stoves there were each year over the last 20 or so years.

Taking the current estimate and given that 700 will have some funding asssistnce, it will take over 165 years to yet rid of the “older models”. Add to that that somewhere along the way some of the “new models” will surely become old models, I can see that this is an effort that is too little too late or virtually totally useless.

So, who is going to finally realize that and come up with a more realistic model to protect people from the polluting ways of their neighbours that will affect their health?

Seems moving is the only option for centuries to come with this approach.

It must feel really good though sitting at the “Prince George Air Improvement Roundtable” and continuing to do squat……

Which reminds me … where the heck is PACHA these days? Seems the wind has gone out of their sails.

I think you will find PACHA somewhere left of centre.

116000 older wood stoves throughout BC does not seem to be very many. I suspect most of them are in areas where there is no natural gas available.

This woodstove thing is borderline BS. Stop the empty diesel burning transit busses from running around empty all day, and you would make some progress on pollution.

Also might be a good idea to try and cut down on all the hot air that comes out of City Hall.

Please, dear god, take this information to the people of the lower Hart Highway. There are a ton of wood burning stoves used in the homes all along the highway there.

Exactly, bornandbred!

Improper burning of wood by a next door neighbour or two tt does not vent well but instead sins and gets into your house is much worse for your health than all the background pollution in the bowl.

I think too many people do not really understand that.

sins = sinks …. sticky keys syndrome

When it comes to health, and even just annoyances, there is no left or right politics involved unless one is a libertarian and prefers gun diplomacy to take care of neighbours who think they have rights that supersede those of their neighbours.

;-)

If we lost our electricity and gas, it would be interesting to see, how fast people would light up stoves and burn wood.

Once again we have hysteria over something that at one time was normal.

Every house in BC at one time burned wood or coal. I didnt see any bodies laying around on the ground, nor were the hospitals full of people with breathing problems.

How did the first nations people survive for thousands of years????

I was raised in a wood burning house, lived in a wood burning town, went to a wood burning school, had two parents who smoked, fought forests fires, and am alive and well to-day, along with a large number of my colleagues. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Palopu, smoked meat lasts longer,and wood heat is dependeble

Palopu: Me too. I absolutely love my wood heat. Love going out and getting my wood in the bush and I have an updated stove that burns very clean.

But that isn`t good enough for those who want it banned. Don`t know how much we save in Natural Gas but its probably $3-400 per month. Now, if they want to greatly subsidise my heating bill, then they can talk to me.
They could talk to my neighbour though who has an old smoky stove, or at east they burn it that way. Oh, I didn`t get any subsidy when I changed over to the new stove either.
Bye the way, nobody seems to complain when huge clouds of very oily smoke go up from all the barbeques in town.

Not to mention all the slash burning that goes on every year around prince George. Just another feel good waste of taxpayers money.

I don’t want wood burning banned. I just want those old stoves that don’t burn wood efficiently to be replaced, if possible.

Palopu, there are plenty of people from your generation that are suffering from or have suffered from lung damage, some of which was caused by wood burning that was inefficient. There are plenty of studies that have proven that wood smoke is not good for the lungs. Add that to the pollution we have from other facts in PG and it just makes it worse.

Every little bit helps. We can’t expect to change all the problems in the world by ourselves but all those little bits and pieces help. Stop being so negative people and do your part.

Yep, if there is a study then no doubt it HAS to be correct science. Scientist have said since Einstein that light is the fastest thing in the universe and physics CANNOT deny that. Lo and behold, they have found a particle that actually goes faster than light. Just goes to proof that science, scientists, studies, etc are not enough to make me believe everything I am told. I know several people 70+ who grew up with wood stoves, old ones, and they seem to be doing just fine. I know young kids in town who have never been around a woodstove that have athsma and breathing problems, what does that say? Maybe your info is not too accurate Gus about the bowl pollution not causing problems.

But, I didn’t say “study”, I said studies and that makes the difference. I am not naive to the pros and cons of studies but I do not believe there are many studies out there that show that inhaling wood smoke is good for your health.

It just makes sense to try to improve air quality anyway we can. It’s not us against them. Aren’t we all in this together?!

Why do taxpayers have to pay anything for someone else to change their heating system?

It is fundamentally wrong.

Those here who want their neighbours to burn cleaner, why don’t YOU walk over to their house and ask them if you could give them some of your $$$ to assist them to change if needed.

This country is drowning in debt and if we don’t cut back spending in a serious way, it is financially finished.

Remember: every grant a government gives you is money they STOLE from your neighbour.

Not quite ….. it is money they stole from ALL the taxpayers in the province. My neighbour provided less than a penny.

BUT, I also stole more because I do not have to pay any carbon tax …. ;-)

BUT, I gave back when I get all that exercise to gather the wood, buck it and split it. Great exercise to keep me healthy and put less demand on the health care system.

“Why do taxpayers have to pay anything for someone else to change their heating system?”

Probably for the same reason that taxpayers have to pay Theatre NorthWest so that theatre goers do not have to pay as much for theatre tickets ….. just to identify one of thousands of things we pay for to encourage people to change their ways. It i a basd habit of governments whether left, center or right. It is a habit that none of them can get away from.

“they have found a particle that actually goes faster than light”

Too bad we can’t see it ….. ;-)

Next thing you know, they will find a particle which goes slower than a dead stop. …. :-)

“I was raised in a wood burning house, lived in a wood burning town, went to a wood burning school, had two parents who smoked, fought forests fires, and am alive and well to-day, along with a large number of my colleagues”

That clinches it; you absolutely will need to donate your body to science ….. :-)

I forgot to add that I smoked for 30 years.

I will admit that smoking was a mistake. At least when the cigarette companies started to spray the tobacco fields, and use chemicals in the cigarette papers.

However I quit before there was any serious damage.

Smoking is a NO NO, and I would suggest to those who do, to seriously consider quiting.

jetstream, in answer to your question about why taxpayers have to pay for it, because it benefits all of us to have healthier air to breathe and also, what gus said about taxpayers. LOL!

bornandbred – if you don’t like air quality where you live, you can make a choice like me … move to where it is acceptable to you.

But sorry bud, it is NOT my neighbour’s responsibility to pay for my desires.

What a joke! I don’t recall smelling a wood burning stove as I drive into PG.