You are bang-on with regards to the NDP. I should start a pool as to when Jenny Kwan will (again) come out of the darkness and back stab her leader (again).

As for your comments on Ms. Clark… I’m not buying what you’re selling. I truly believe people voted for the Party and not the leader in this past election. She lost her own seat in a Liberal strong-hold so she can’t be that popular.

Because of this, I’m not so sure the Liberal troops are going to completely fall in line, as you put it. It will all be sunshine and roses at the moment, but give it a year.

For this election, the Libs could have change their name to ‘Jobs Jobs Jobs’ and had the same win. The NDP presented a case that all of BC is ‘pristine’ which made a lot of voters concerned about their employment (except of course those at the government trough. Even the greenies turn into ‘6 scond socreds’ at the polling booth.

For this election, the Libs could have change their name to ‘Jobs Jobs Jobs’ and had the same win. The NDP presented a case that all of BC is ‘pristine’ which made a lot of voters concerned about their employment (except of course those at the government trough. Even the greenies turn into ‘6 scond socreds’ at the polling booth.

Not only did he fail to make government, but he also failed to run an opposition too. He gave the BC liberals a pass on everything and that was not only a failure of leadership, but a failure to hold the government to account, which is the job of an opposition leader, hold the government to account.

BC needs a hard nosed opposition leader at this time and we don’t have that.

Also it was an epic failure of the party insiders. How could they not see the polls changing, how could they not have riding by riding sentiment giving them red flags that their strategy of a rope and dope campaign was in jeopardy?

These guys are guilty more than anything in believing their own story, group think of sorts, so much so that they played themselves for fools with their lax approach.

“…they played themselves for fools with their lax approach.”

Ex-Lax? ;-)

Nice guys finish last and Dix has proved that old saying true once more.
While the Libs harped about the 90’s and generally ran a negative campaign The NDP failed to make the HST, Campbell’s departure,
ethnicgate, the 16 million dollars of taxpayer money the Libs used promoting themselves, 5% increase of transfer tax, campaign issues. Dix and the NDP failed to bring forward any of the Lib scandals or failures. Had the NDP refreshed the public’s memory of the Libs record maybe Dix would be premier elect.
In the end people just picked what was perceived as the lesser of 2 evils.

“Had the NDP refreshed the public’s memory of the Libs record maybe Dix would be premier elect.”

They did. I was watching some of the recorded TV programs on my PVR and those NDP ads were on there for the important ads on the last days leading into the elections.

Here is an interesting bit of history from the time of the leadership races a couple of years ago – about the NDP running attack ads against voting for Clark as a leader.

Some BCLiberal party voters may have come to realize, as a result of those ads, that they should vote for the person the NDP were most afraid of … Thank you BCNDP for your not so smart campaigning!!

;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YChqUKmQL64

Somebody made the observation that the NDP campaigned as if they were the governing party, and it really felt like that was the case sometimes. The voters on the other hand, had other ideas.

Regardless, I hope the NDP never governs this province.

“Ex-Lax?” yeah, real classy there PrinceGeorge! I was wondering why you got so defensive about my law enforcement background – most dangerous city in Canada comment. So being new to this comment board, I reviewed some of your past comments back to May 10th.

Wow… from the fast cat ferries fiasco to Prince Rupert unemployment, to bingo gate… you were a one person Liberal campaign on this discussion board weren’t you?

“Ex-Lax?” I can see you can dish it out, but you just can’t take it can you PrinceGeorge! Typical double standard Liberal!!!

Don’t worry, I won’t jump down your throat for your degrading comment, I just want you to look in a mirror and say the word “Ex-Lax” to yourself :)

I realize that this site has people who have no sense of humour! Is that my fault?

BTW, I actually can take it, including the furious denials of some when actual past historical blunders of the NDP are posted here by me and many, many others!

Looks like you can’t take it.

My brother met Jenny Kwan once. He told me that if Chinese had blondes, she would be a blonde. I also heard that she has never had an original thought. A reporter when upon hearing that Jenny Kwan was going to come to Prince George, he said the only way she could find her way here was to get off the airplane. And there you have it. You’re welcome.

JB: Regardless, I hope the NDP never governs this province.

Never again, ten years were more than enough, speaking for myself.

BTW, since this is a democracy one is free to choose any party and express opinions about it during a debate – unless it irritates those who have a different outlook and try to suppress and oppress others. If it looks like campaigning, tough.

People: “Wow… you were a one person Liberal campaign on this discussion board weren’t you?”

For every PrinceGeorge, there were 2 or 3 NDP ‘campaigners’ on these discussion boards. What was your point exactly?

Resident on May 23 2013 7:48 AM posts about the past shenanigans of the BCLiberals.

No problem with that.

PrinceGeorge posts about the past shenanigans of the BCNDP.

Big problem, apparently.

@ PrinceGeorge;

May19, 2013 3:19 pm ~ “People#1, I am sure you are an NDP supporter – because where else would such an insulting comment come from? Just one more reason to shun the NDP as if it was the plague.”

Yet here you are posting “Ex-Lax?”??? I have not been on this comment board long PrinceGeorge, but I am getting a sense about who you are….

Urban Dictionary: “Two-faced” ~ “When a person acts a certain way in one place and acts different in another.”

Not so sure Christy Clark didn’t deserve some credit. They were un-electable if Campbell had stayed on – so she couldn’t have been all that bad. And give Gordon Campbell credit for one thing, he quit soon enough to give Clark a chance to put her own stamp on the government – unlike a certain Mr. “I like seeing myself on TV” Vanderzalm” who waited until the Socreds were all but dead, then bailed, and left Rita Johnson to preside over the death of the party he killed – and set us up for the 10 years of NDP rule. Ironically, he then crawls out of the woodwork to hook up with the NDP to kill the HST – wonder if he ever was a Socred?

You would have to admit People#1 that the NDP were pretty full of themselves in the last couple of days of the campaign, from Adrian Dix’s victory lap of the province on election eve to practicing a speech for the “new Premier” as the polls closed.

So PrinceGeorge’s comment may not apply in a literal sense it sure does figuratively.

If you are new here do a search on “mattyc” who has been MIA since election night.

People, I consider “two-faced” to be an attempt at a personal insult. Considering the source I don’t take it seriously but it is out of line with this site, which frowns upon this kind of stuff.

You are new to this site as you state. Perhaps you have not noticed that you have unintentionally crossed the line. I let it go this time. If there is a next time I will complain to the editor.

Actually I have gotten a great idea from the insults that are being directed at me!

Since my comments have been interpreted as a “one man campaign” I might use this newly discovered talent (thanks for the thumbs up) and become an tireless official campaigner starting today for the next election in 2017.

People#1, you conveniently left out the earlier comment you made in respect to the election of our local Liberal MLAs:

“Maybe it was the criminal element who voted them in, because under their expert law enforcement watch, crime flourish here in PG and the North!”

I apologize for stating that I believed that this was a derisive comment coming from a supporter of the BCNDP.

My comment stated a “one person campaign” yet you automatically interpreted it as a “one MAN campaign”.

Thanks for outing yourself as being male. Starting today I will correctly refer to you as Mr. PrinceGeorge :)

Welp, unlike the Canfor discussion, this discussion thread is going no where, hmmm… I wonder why… Mr. PrinceGeorge, any thoughts as to why?

Bob Simpson seems to have been very silent since the election.

I think the NDP would be smart if they took hiom back in, if he is interested and make sure he becomes the leader. Give him 3 years to prepare and I think he could manage a good fight and even win, depending on the evetns between now and then.

Kwan? … LOL.

People#1 …..

You may not realize it, but you are on the verge of what we call cyberbullying these days.

Then agan, if you really are or were RCMP, you have an excuse…… ;-)

oops ….. did I say that?? LOL

My apologies… to everyone.

ski50:-“…. Vanderzalm” who waited until the Socreds were all but dead, then bailed, and left Rita Johnson to preside over the death of the party he killed – and set us up for the 10 years of NDP rule. Ironically, he then crawls out of the woodwork to hook up with the NDP to kill the HST – wonder if he ever was a Socred?”
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Actually, ski50 he was originally a BC Liberal. I believe he ran for them in at least one provincial election and was defeated. Back when WAC Bennett was Premier.

Vander Zalm became a ‘so-called’ Socred when most of the then BC Liberal caucus pulled what amounted to a ‘reverse takeover’ of the original B C Social Credit League after WAC Bennett’s government fell to the NDP. Soon as it became clear they’d never be able to get elected government on their own under the Liberal moniker. (A lot of people in the early 1970’s still remembered all too well just how corrupt the downtown Vancouver dominated BC Liberal led Coalition was, prior to Social Credit defeating it in 1952. And, judging by the experience of the last twelve years, with the BC Libs back under their own colours, some things never really do change!)

Regardless of his background, Vander Zalm did us a great service in ridding us of the HST. A government that was truly FOR British Columbians would never have introduced that kind of tax in the first place, and certainly not at 7%.

Bahh, ha, ha… I just linked my own comment. astro… read and follow the instructions underneath the post comment button and follow the instructions, if you are including a link in your comment.

“Ex-lax” got you that upset? Seriously? And you’re in an authoritive position? Wow, scary.

“given she was the major reason the party governs today” .. oh please. She couldn’t even hold her own seat. This liberal win had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with the unease of an ndp majority govt. I got so nauseated listening to clarks lies about the balanced budget, how the ndp were going to balloon the deficit, leaving out of course her 11 billion dollar contribution to it, the on and on spew about hedging the entire bc economy on lng over the next 25 years. I was about ready to vote for anyone BUT the liberals, even the the Christian heritage party sounded more honest to me, and that’s a stretch to be sure. I just wanted a minority govt, regardless of who it was, the last thing we needed was another majority govt here in BC. When the lng predictions fall far short of cristies wishes she will drive this province into the biggest recession we have ever seen. You heard it here first.

doesn’t anyone else see that people#1 is actually mattyc?

But, People#1 can actually spell and construct a proper sentence, which was well beyond mattyc’s capability.

And But, get over it, the NDP lost. See you in four years.

“I just wanted a minority govt, regardless of who it was” .. what part of that don’t you get?

Do you understand what a minority government is and why it’s pretty much an impossibility in BC?

Well I would say it is one party not having being able to out vote all the other parties combined, which usually lets them get their way every time, regardless if it is good for us or not. Last I heard this is a democracy which allows for parties to not always form a majority. Who cares if it is “pretty much an impossibility”, that means it is a possibility.

To paraphrase Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber, I guess one in a million is a still a chance, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

“Do you understand what a minority government is and why it’s pretty much an impossibility in BC?”

I understand …. :-)

And it was not ll that much of an impossibility in the last election.

One Green was voted in. One Independent was voted in.

Given that there are 85 seats, there are 83 seats left. Give one party 42 and the other 41, and you have a minority government.

Going into the election that was a very distinct possibility ….. ;-)

One thing I forgot to add before someone says that does not make a minority government.

One of the parties has to convince the lieutenant governor that they can form government given the situation. It can be either one.

If one more independent had been voted in, which was very possible with the likes of Bob Simpson running, it could have been 41, 41, 3 ….. the three would have had the pick of the portfolios being offered by each party.

It would just have been a matter of how much they would have had to hold their noses.

A minority government in this province would likely be thrown into non-confidence in the first three months and we’d be right back to the polling booth. Yeah, sounds like a good time.

Canada does not have any good experience with that. The Germans have some great coalition governments.

The Fins apparently have never had an absolute majority since 1917 when they became independent of Russia. They had their most stable government when they had a coalition of 5 parties.

The approach in Canada and the USA is far too adversarial.

The Australians have a 4 party coalition.

I mean, just look how anti coalition we were when the possibility existed of one forming in 2008.

Time for some serious change … either proportional seat selection based on voter percentage and/or coalitions formed before elections.

Of course, if we keep getting decisive decisions, then we are relatively okay, but there is a considerable minority which should get some sort of voice. I think the fact they so not adds to apathy at election time.