unfortunately too many people on the scooters drive directly in the path of traffic expecting the traffic to stop …Drivers are not blameless either but lots of people with scooters rarely look before crossing

Scooters should be licenced and a mandatory road test should be required. That way then can, in their motorized vehicles obey the rules of the road, like any other motorized vehicle. Feel sorry for the driver of the truck, and hope the operator of the scooter alright…

I understand we need an ambulance at the accident site, I dont understand why we need a bunch of bored fireman there as well.lol.
such a waste of taxpayer money.

So PG GIRL should bicycles and riders also be licenced?

emergency services always send first the fire department, then police, then ambulance.
After a scene assessment, the non-required service providers are dismissed.

This is to cover the what if or the incident evolves.

Interesting that the both posts seem to blame the scooter operator. How did you come to that conclusion with the limited information posted…..and why would you feel sorry for the pick up driver. He wasn’t taken to the hospital.

I’ll put my money on it that the driver gets charged – not the scooter operator. The driver is the one with the license that has the responsibility of knowing what the heck the is going on around him.

If a kid runs out on the street chasing a ball are you going to tell him he needs to be licensed?

Did you all not notice” motorized vehicle”?

as to licensing:
most of these scooter riders cannot have a drivers license, so they take an alternative transportation method.

So your compassionate solution is to hinder, prohibit or otherwise limit mobility for those with physical infirmities?

Do you have another solution that satisfies their transport needs?

When was the last time a scooter was hit regardless of blame? Its not a common enough occurance to start spending money on more laws and regulations.

Onemansthoughts – we are paying the firemen anyway, just how much do you think this cost the taxpayer?

Why is it a waste of money? If you have a family member in an accident would you not want all resources on scene then figure out who is or isn’t needed. Time would be wasted if the wrong resources arrived. Time is usually very important. Who decides what responce is required before hand. Besides firemen are already on the clock.

How about a little flag off the back of the scooter
If I were confined to a scooter and someone told me to get a licence I would run that person down with my scooter

…firemen at the site?

Who better to handle a potential lead acid battery leak from a damaged scooter!

For people who think its a waste to have the fire dept there. It’s not a waste of money. It doesn’t matter what they are doing it all costs the same.

Fire Rescue always responds because A – they get paid whether they go or not, so might as well pay them to go to the accident as sit in the firehall.

There is a cost to running the trucks, but the trucks need to be operated each day anyway, so might as well be for this.

Best reason – the fire department has way better coverage than BC ambulance, and most firefighters are also trained first responders – minimum – some are even higher trained.

I came across a person in seizures. F.D. arrived in about 5 minutes, B.C. Ambulance in 8. Three minutes in the case of a heart attack, can mean life or death, and F.D. have AED’s in their trucks – CPR is a stop gap measure at best. This is one of the things the city spends money on that we actually need, so not sure why it burns some people’s butt to see medical attention get their sooner rather than later.

Opine

Reread the story the scooter was not seen by the driver of the truck as the scooter was below hood lvl the guy on the scooter failed to get the attention of the truck driver before crossing in front of him therefore it was the fault of the operator of the scooter

Come on O-250…. Let’s have a heated argument about whether or not the scooter was equipped with tires with “the snowflake symbol”.
Or have that People #1 clown blame Stephen Harper.

I like that weaksauce….I don’t think the scooter even had chains, let alone something on the scooter that would make him visable…Everyone get your typing fingers warmed up…..

I’m not going to comment on this particular incident, but I’ve seen some near suicidal behaviour of motor scooters on the Hart.

Several times over the years I’ve seen a scooter headed into traffic along the inside curb lane … during winter rush hour (when it’s dark out). I can only imagine the scare these folks caused some of the chip truck drivers that were behind me travelling in that same lane.

Obey the rules of the road period! Motorized or not! People on bicycles are supposed to obey the rules of the road. Is a person on a scooter classified as a pedestrian? If not he has no business being on the sidewalk! When riding a bike you are not a pedestrian so stay off the sidewalks, travel with traffic not against and dismount when in a crosswalk.

This isn’t hard.

Zoom in on picture I see a flag. Question is was the flag in the proper position at the time of incident. Make eye contact with driver seems pretty non Darwin Award to me!

Lucky the senior wasn’t riding a trail bike. 56 cc or 90cc. But instead, a scooter. (Motorized vehicle) unlicensed, uninsured, unregistered, no helmet, etc. But that’s different. Exceptions? Find some.

“Reread the story the scooter was not seen by the driver of the truck as the scooter was below hood lvl the guy on the scooter failed to get the attention of the truck driver before crossing in front of him therefore it was the fault of the operator of the scooter”

How the heck did the guy in the truck not notice the scooter approaching the front of is truck? Unless the scooter was parked directly in front of the truck (in which case he should have seen it as he was approaching him), he would’ve had to have been travelling either on the left or right side of the truck before it crossed in front of him. Did the guy not look before he pulled out?

Sorry folks. If we’re going to be critical of a young driver that ran into the back of a bus because he didn’t clear his windows, I think it’s only fair to be critical of a driver who appears to have not looked left and right before pulling out. There is no way that the scooter wouldn’t have been off to either side of him before it crossed in front out of his view.

And yes, I have also seen people on scooters do some pretty crazy stuff. I’ve also seen them act responsibly.

It was an accident,, not an on purpose.. Hope all is ok.

More than likely the scooter popped out from behind a giant snow windrow while the driver was looking the other way.

Dearth… have you seen the sidewalks in PG… this poor fellow has no choise but to go on the road

Cabinfevergirl I know what the sidewalks are like but it still does not excuse the fact that the scooter drove in the path of the truck without getting the driver of the trucks attention first regardless of whether sidewalks were used or not

This time of year doesn’t really help because of all the other distractions out there every road user has to deal with.. that includes scooters, drivers cyclists ect..

Hopefully the scooter person is ok and if they were being negligent they learned a lesson..

No such thing as an accident! Someone screwed up plain and simple!

cant tell you how many times I’ve had drivers look directly at me, when I had the right of way, then proceed to try to run over me. sorry, how is that my fault. I do my responsible thing and ensure they’ve seen me and I’m following the rules of the road and then I still have ot scream jump out of the way pound on their hoods ot remind them not to hti me. all this while walking on icy snowy sidwalks which are way way way worse than the raods.

So, barring further infor on this scooter user, I give him the benefit of the doubt beased on persaonl experience.

I have seen both scooters and drivers do crazy things. As someone mentioned above, there are no accidents and somebody screwed up.

Are ATV”s allowed on streets? I don’t think so. They are motorized. Motorized scooters should be licenced to be on streets. Unfortunate the accident happened and I’m surprised there hasn’t been more.

The scooter itself may have been below the level of the hood but a person sitting on it would have reached higher than that. What if it had been a short child walking instead?

So you dont know the difference, between an ATV, an a scooter. Its his mobility device!! Like a wheelchair.. DUH

Tell the cops your ATV is kind of a “motorized wheelchair”. He’ll understand.

Dearth

Give your head a shake and think about what you said. You are saying that “I didn’t see him” absolves him of his responsibitly as a licensed driver.

I sure hope I’m not out walking when you are behind the wheel. ‘…oops officer – I didn’t see him!…’

Pretty lame.

By extension of your assesment of this situation – is it fair to say that if this same driver ran over a six year old because he couldn’t see him over the hood of his truck – he should be exhonerated?

I repeat – pretty lame.

This is “undue care and attention’ on the part of the driver.

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