Why is no one looking at why the city failed so bad at snow removal, rather than having gall spew out all these excuses.

First step is to fire him, then find someone who can do the job. Second find out why it happened. Throwing more money might help but, is there the qualified people on staff to run the equipement, is there a more strategic way to plow the streets etc.

Oh look. Bill Gaal voted 2500 times.

There was nothing wrong with snow removal in the past. All i see here is just another tax increase.

Indicative of the average education levels of the readership here.

Comment Posted by: P Val on March 3 2014 5:05 AM

Why is no one looking at why the city failed so bad at snow removal, rather than having gall spew out all these excuses.

First step is to fire him, then find someone who can do the job. Second find out why it happened. Then throwing more money might help but, is there the qualified people on staff to run the equipement, is there a more strategic way to plow the streets etc.

EGGZACKTLY!!! The miss management, lack of intelligent leadership and poor planning is the real reason our roads are so bad! Sweeper clears sidewalks… 10 minutes later plows plow the sidewalks back in… this is done over and over though out the city.

Who voted to spend 6.5 million dollars and increase our city taxes? I didn’t. Fix the management issues first.

Quit building new neighbourhoods without a snow removal plan for the new areas. New neighbourhood means more manpower and more equipment or does it come on city hall, plan ahead.
Us people who now live in the older neighbourhoods are not having good snow removal, we certainly are not getting our bang for the bucks we spend.

I agree with P Val do some thing with management I believe that is where the problem lies.

if the majority of prince George residence feel that throwing 6.5 million dollars out there will fix the problem then they will get just that, a temporary fix. They will also be crying again next year wondering why the same thing is happening as last winter.
lack of proper management is the problem first and foremost. once that is repaired then the other issues will almost fix themselves.
Just saying, have a great week.

privatize it for three years and see if they can do a better job at it.

Privatise, how do you suppose that is supposed to improve things? YRB is private and lots of complaints there.

Shiny new equipment for the games, I wonder?

For starters the City does not have $6 Million for new equipment, so the request is a **red herring**.

Secondly this is a Management problem, however how do you solve it. If you fire some Management people then you are looking at a big severance package for them, and if you keep them on, they will continue to not do anything.

This is the old **catch 22**. If you fire me I win. If you keep me on staff I win.

This situation is partly the responsibility of the new City Manager, and the Mayor, Basically **Green Horns** rushing in where wise men fear to tread.

We have taken a somewhat serious problem, and developed it into a very serious problem, without an immediate solution.

Having a number of pissed off Managers sitting in the catbird seat, basically untouchable because of iron clad contracts are certainly part of the problem

Winnipeg city Coun. John Orlikow is demanding a public review of how the city clears snow from its streets, calling recent efforts “subpar” and a failure.

Orlikow, who represents the River Heights-Fort Garry ward, says Winnipeg should have the best snow-clearing system in Canada.

But complaints in recent weeks about snow-packed and ice-slicked ruts on roads, and delays in plowing residential streets and sidewalks, have led him to one conclusion.
From Winnipeg

Coun. John Orlikow says Winnipeggers likely have opinions on how streets should be cleared, so he’d like the mayor to call a public review and use the feedback to improve the snow removal system. (CBC)

“We failed. I believe the service was subpar. I don’t believe, I know it; we all know it, that the service was subpar,” he told CBC News on Wednesday.

“We have to fix those issues.”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-councillor-calls-for-snow-clearing-review-1.2498070

Change the City name to Prince George BC, and change the Coun. name to Skakun, Frizzel, or Koehler, and you have the beginning of a solution.

I agree with P Val;

Why is no one looking at why the city failed so bad at snow removal, rather than having gall spew out all these excuses.

First step is to fire him, then find someone who can do the job. Second find out why it happened. Throwing more money might help but, is there the qualified people on staff to run the equipement, is there a more strategic way to plow the streets etc.

The city should be looking into contracting out.
– No depreciating equipment.
– contractor having to meet expectation.
– total reduction in cost all the way around from;
– maintenance cost.
– administration cost.
– hourly employee cost and benefits.
In my mind it is a win, win for both the city and the tax payers. Unfortunate for those who loose there jobs, but could be rehired by the contractor at a much more reasonable rate.

I don’t believe the poll. All issues on here when polled show the overall sentiment is reflected in the poll, except this one. I think someone was stacking the for votes. I don’t know why they would do that unless they think these unscientific polls actually mean anything. The overall sentiment on here has been saying NO to more expenditures and instead focus on management as the problem, which in most peoples books would mean a NO vote on the poll.

Reading the comments I believe there is only one solution. We need a brainiac that believes they are above everyone else and smarter than everyone else to run this show. No, no…not Shari, I was thinking about Sine Nomine.