Enbridge Looks for Your Thoughts on Their Plans to Address Conditions
Residents visit with Enbridge experts on a variety of plans to address conditions – photos 250News
Prince George, B.C.- 209 conditions, that is what Enbridge is addressing as it develops draft plans to meet the conditions set forth before it can begin construction of the Northern Gateway twin pipeline project.
Enbridge is holding community sessions across the pipeline route to gather feedback on the draft plans.
One such session was held in Prince George yesterday, seeking public input on 22 of those conditions and the plans Enbridge will develop to satisfy the conditions.
The conditions were grouped into one of eight categories with subject matter ranging from Pipeline environmental effects monitoring, to marine mammal protection, traditional land use investigation plans and socio- economic effects monitoring.
“We want to get community input on those plans” says Catherine Pennington, Senior Manager of Northern Gateway Pipeline Community Benefits and Sustainability. “We want to make sure the community can give us their feedback and we can integrate those comments, concerns and matters back into our planning process and then ultimately come up with better plans that will reflect the interests and needs of all of us in the north.”
Enbridge has already held similar sessions in a number of communities along the proposed pipeline route, with Kitimat and Terrace the next two communities to be visited.
(at right, samples of bitumen, condensate, dilbit, sweet crude and synthetic )
This phase of the consultation is expected to carry on through to February of 2015. In March phase 2 will be launched as Enbridge gathers public comment on several other conditions, which will be followed by phase three in late 2015, early 2016.
“We are driven by meeting the conditions and working with the community” says Pennington, “What we need to do is look at all of the feedback and determine how do we best meet those interests in the community from the information they are giving us.”
Anyone unable to attend the session in Prince George can still offer feedback by providing a written response to info@northerngateway.ca , or by mail to C103 Parkwood Place, 1600- 15th Avenue Prince George, B.C. V2L 3X3
Comments
Funny, this time they didn’t come in with engines roaring, colours flying and amplifiers booming out what they were going to do here.
Now, they’re asking us for our input!
I suppose eventually they will be on their knees, politely begging us to have them.
As far as I’m concerned, Don’t think so!
For me, they would have to go back about thirty years and redo the past, show a little integrity and credibility.
Sorry Enbridge, your past and even recent past is shouting so loud, I can’t hear what you’re saying this time!
I don’t get it.. what part of YOUR NOT WANTED HERE don’t they understand?
Exactly bcracer.
Just Google “enbridge oil spills”, and you’ll get the point big time.
Check out the Enbridge Kalamazoo oil spill and its aftermath, and see what a million gallons of heavy spilled crude can do to a river.
Interesting that three years or so later, Enbridge is now apparently resisting any furthur cleanup responsibilities.
Its all there in the article.
The biggest mistake Enbridge made was assuming that the short and long term benefits afforded by the pipeline for the province and all of the people in this area was a no brainer. They sure weren’t prepared for the sheer size of the foreign funding spent here to harm the financial well being of our country. The left wing media and a lot of you on here got sucked in big time by OPEC and American interests to stop our oil exports.
Sorry contractor, I don’t buy that. I wasn’t sucked in by any “OPEC or American interests”.
I looked for myself, at what Enbridge stands for and I don’t want any part of it.
Contractor- I see you have bought into Stephen Harpers and Joe Olivers Kool-Aid- that the opposition to Enbridge is all from Eco-Terrorists brainwashed by Tides Canada. To set the record straight-by far the largest source of foreign funding was the $110 million Gateway had from mostly Chinese companies to promote the project. The incessant to the point of irritating amount of pro-Enbridge advertising we have all had to endure only proves the point- “You cant polish a turd!”
But I suppose that as a contractor, you were looking forward to wearing a s#it eating grin!
I sure hope that none of you naysayers are a part of the ski club, or surely you voiced your displeasure with the $50k Enbridge just donated to the Nordic scholarship? And of course you will say “sorry, no thanks” if one of your children receives any of this scholarship money, right?
People against Enbridge are certainly entitled to their opinion, and of course the same applies to the Keystone Pipeline.
On the other hand I wonder if these people have any suggestions as to what we should do with our oil. The USA is buying less oil and gas, and we have no direct way of exporting our products to other Countries. I suppose we could reduce production in the oil and gas industry, lay of thousands of people, and go to WalMart and buy a bag of popcorn, a bottle of cheap pop, and sit on our ass and watch TV. Not sure how long we would be able to survive.
I’m no fan of Enbridge, however we better come up with an alternative plan, or we could be looking at some hard times in the not too distant future.
PS. If you are not prepared to have an oil pipeline run through BC, then don’t suggest we run the pipeline East to refineries in Eastern Canada, and the USA. If you don’t want it in your backyard, then don’t suggest it go into someone else’s back yard.
Have a nice day,.
Interesting about all the anti Harper rhetoric but these same people are fine with foreign interests running our country. Herbster, give more just where do you buy your cooled?
Read Vivian Krause for starters. There is danger she might make your heads explode
http://ww2.financialpost.com/m/wp/tag/blog.html?b=opinion.financialpost.com/2012/11/28/vivian-krause-u-s-greens-shut-down-canadian-oil&pubdate=2014-10-08&t=vivian-krause
Our “backyard” has a much more difficult path to take for a pipeline -over 750 water crossings,through two mountain ranges, and then the problems of large supertankers navigating narrow channels. Yes the “Energy East” pipeline is a better solution, plus it keeps some of the oil and the refining jobs here in Canada. Very good article on it in the Financial Post
http://business.financialpost.com/2014/10/07/energy-east-keystone/?__lsa=21e9-9746
With the money they are making they can afford to refine the product onsite by building a refinery there. Then instead of shipping the raw product they can ship finished . Lots less to transport, in turn less to clean up in case of a spill.
If they weren’t so greedy….
Interceptor- because a large corporation has given away some charity money, are we all supposed to bend over and take it up the rear end? Are you really that easily bought and paid for?
My issue is that I am a Canadian and take great issue with outside interests subverting Canadian sovereignty. A lot of posters seem to care less and lack any Canadian identity or pride. That is so sad, what happened?
” The problem with the funding of the Tar Sands Campaign is the secret donors that may have an agenda that is contrary to Canadian interests. If ForestEthics and other environmental groups wish to have a credible voice in the pipeline debate, they must disclose the origin of their funding from Tides.”. – Vivian Krause
Nope, I have my own ideas -But if you are dead set convinced that they are pure evil then you had better not accept any money from them. That would be a tad hypocritical, no?
My point is, ski clubs are notoriously “green” groups. So I am wondering how many members of the Nordic ski club are on here, facebook, twitter, whatever screaming “NO ENBRIDGE” but are graciously accepting money from them for their scholarship?
Don’t you nay sayers forget that they are building an 11 billion dollar refinery at Kitimat. Think of all the jobs an d opportunity that will provide for us in BC. They could of build it in AB but gave it all to us.
Cheers
Seamut- Vivian Krause has documented the $3.2 Forest Ethics paid out to all Canadian charities between 2009 and 2012. Contrast that with the $9 million Stephen Harper provided in 2012 for Natural Resource Canada to promote Northern Gateway.
http://business.financialpost.com/2014/10/07/energy-east-keystone/?__lsa=21e9-9746
Or contrast that amount with the untold millions Enbridge has spent on advertising- with money largely from foreign oil companies. Sorry your argument about Canadian pride seems to be misplaced at best, disingenuous at worst.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Retired02, but that Kitimat refinery is a pipedream that will never be built. It was meant only to win public support for a pipeline to the west coast. The pipeline was to be built prior to the refinery, and once built, all plans for the refinery would be shelved.
Sorry , the link to Natural Resource Canada advertising is here
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/03/25/government-northern-gateway-pipeline-ads-negative-pr_n_2950808.html
Enbridge will get their way. Just fishing on which are the right groups of people to pay off.
I am sure that they could look into more desirable areas to refine the oil than Kitimat. “herbster” is right, the refinery would be shelved and all that would be said is “wasn’t feasible, lets move forward”
That is after the pipe line was completed!
Retired.. The refinery at kitimat was a suggestion that never went anywhere. If it was a go it would be constantly in the media of the jobs it would bring to the area.
Contractor, how much money will you lose out on when the pipeline isn’t built?
Herbster the point is, who is funding the opposition to the pipeline and what is the motive, not “whipping it out” to see who has the most.
Trudeau must really irk you conservatives, too bad Harper doesn’t have a chance against him! The point is, what foreign powers are funding this misbegotten project and who are they corrupting in order to get it built? The conservatives are in Northern Gateway way over their heads, and it will all come out in the wash.
herbster Gateway is in a business, got that. Now who is funding Tides and other subversive groups, and just what is the motive? You keep ignoring that. Question too tough?
Build the dam refinery in Alberta. Easy Peasey.
Who said Tides is a subversive group? Joe Oliver- the same idiot who called all opposition to Northern Gateway eco-terrorists? Stop listening to the idiots at Harper headquarters and start thinking for yourself! Is it subversive to be opposed to a project that the Conservative government has allowed to proceed only with 209 conditions? Is it subversive to ask who is going to pay in case of a spill(the answer at the moment is that the taxpayers will!) Only the Conservative government and its supporters would try to frame rational opposition to its plans as subversive. People are bloody tired of that and their bully boy tactics, and that is why Trudeau will be our next PM. He may not be crafty and devious as Harper, but neither is he as venomous and mean spirited.
Huh I didn’t get any support on the refinery dream. and why should we export all that pollution to a country that doesn’t give a dam on how much that they will crate with this poison we are selling to them.
Cheers
If anything will kill this pipeline, it’s the glacial pace of the government approval and ‘consultation’ processes, similar to what’s killing any hopes of an LNG industry in BC.
It shouldn’t take a decade to get a pipeline built. In Canada, that’s another story.
Herbster you are either not paying attention or cannot answer a simple question and where did I mention anything about Harper? Where is the funding coming from for the opposition to Gateway.
You would vote for whip it out boy. Then there is his economist training, the budget will balance itself.
Chill out dude.
Seamutt, who funded the opposition to Enbridge in Kitimat? No one. The town people got together and overwhelmingly rejected Northern Gateway, despite the massive amount of advertising Enbridge poured into the small town . Read about it here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kitimat-b-c-votes-no-to-northern-gateway-in-plebiscite-1.2607877
I suggested a long time ago, that if they really want to pipeline this stuff, they need to go about a mile underground and have a shipping point well out beyond Haida Gwaii. If they want to do that, well fine, fly at ‘er.
But they shouldn’t even THINK about us allowing them to build a conventional pipeline across our land.
They still refuse to take proper care of the pipelines they do have in the ground or properly clean up what they have spilled, so why do they think we would allow them to do the same here?
Ah come on Herbster where do you think sources of information was coming from, pixy dust.
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