My prediction:
Site C will happen

Get the shovels in the ground, look to the future.

Sad, beautiful country.

Either way today is going to be bad news for someone..

Site C should never happen. However LNG and Oil is going South, so they might build Site C just to create jobs. We certainly don’t need the power.

This Government is terrible. We will rue the day that we allowed them to be re-elected.

Hope it goes through, I plan on working there!

Palopu same could be said of the Bennett, the nerve of those folks building the Mica and WAC dams for hydro

Exactly, slinky. People like Palopu were against the first dams built as well. This is no different.

This is more about the CAVE movement (Citizens Against Virtually Everything) than anything else.

There was a time when we got things done in this Province and Country. Those days are gone, I guess.

i agree with you JohnnyBelt people run around saying so and so project is bad for the environment or this will cause unwanted industrial noise or its a waste of money yet these same people will also whine and snivel that there is no growth and lack of good paying jobs they are bound and determined not to be happy in any circumstance

What makes you think we don’t need the power?

An Australian company just bought into the most advanced LNG project out west. The one Apache just pulled out of.

Near sighted individuals not looking out for the benefits of future generations. What would you call that selfish, self centered or self benefiting? How about we start negotiating with our neighbors on what they already owe British Columbia for unpaid electricity.

I always wonder at the short sightedness of those who promote the use of fossil fuels over a renewable resource like hydro-generated electricity. There is only so much oil, gas, and coal in the ground and the rate at which Mother Nature is “manufacturing” it down there is verrrrrry slooooow. In the last 150 years or so, we’ve used up a lot of it, and the rate of consumption is exponential. While we may not be at risk of running out in even a hundred years or more, this is a blink of the eye in the existence of the planet or even mankind.

Then there is methane, possibly up to a 1500 hundred year supply at today’s total conventional fossil fuel usage.

Lets build the dam for clean energy environmental purposes for our present and future generations to enjoy clean reliable renewable electricity , we are blessed with a huge province with a huge untapped resource . Let the digging begin!!!!

In reality we are just a warehouse for USA needs.
Cheers

As usual people making statements not backed up by any facts.

1. I was 100 percent in favour of the WAC Bennett Dam, and Mica.
2. I was in agreement with Kemano One, but opposed to Kemano Two.

3. Building LNG producing plants in strategic areas of BC to create jobs, and provide electricity to homes and industry is a far more intelligent way to go, than flooding thousands of acre’s with water. Fact of the matter is dams are a thing of the past, and those who support them live in the past.

4. Most of the LNG that we want to export will be used by foreign Countries to produce electricity. So it seems to make sense for them to use LNG, but we will continue to force people off their land, and flood them out, to produce electricity that we don’t need in the forseeable future.

5. The Site C Project is all about creating some jobs, and making millions of dollars profits for those construction companies who will build the dam, clear the site, provide the transmission lines, etc; etc;.

6. Without a market for this power, we will either sell it to the American for nothing, or shut down some turbines.

7. Building 5 LNG Plants one in Terrace, one in Prince George, one in the Dawson Creek area, one in the Okanogan, and one in the Greater Vancouver area, would make cheap electricity, and heat available in these areas to be the foundation to build more farming and industry. In addition these plants would produce much more electricity than Site C, and create many more long term, full time jobs.

8. If the LNG plants in Kitimat and Prince Rupert go forward, and that’s a big IF, they will generate their own electricity from LNG to freeze the LNG for export. So don’t suggest that we need Site C to produce electricity for these export facilities.

9. So long story short. Site C is a Liberal and BC Hydro White Elephant, and when you consider the source of the idea, you can readily see why.

So retired we should sell nothing to the US. Please clarify. I guess we should not buy anything at the same stroke.

We do not require LNG to produce energy in BC any more than LNG is required to heat our homes. LNG is produced to transport the gas. Natural gas is used for generation in BC already but is more expensive than our abundant hydro.

The LNG Plants will not be producing all their total required power and Site C is required to back up alternate sources of electricity as they are not firm power.

Hydro power is very cheap after construction, operating costs are very low.

I have 40 years experience generating electricity, steam, diesel, hydro, and gas.

Save our farmlands and build some nuclear power plants…..

So, seamut give your head a shake. Its about supplying power that will increase the USA market domination over our economy. We are so stupid that we no longer manufacture dick all in Canada. All this dam is about a slush fund for the Liberals by selling the power to the Americans.
Cheers

Seamut. Nice to see you have 40 years experience in the electricity business.

Perhaps you can tell us how many private co-generating plants there are in BC??

As an example I know that they are building one in MacKenzie, and there is one in Williams Lake, and I think Armstrong BC. Then we have Canfor with plants at Northwood, Intercon, PG Pulp, and there is another one at Port Mellon.

Then of course there are all these run of the river projects.

So the question is if you build Site C and you have all this cheap power, will all the co-gen plants, and run of the river projects be closed down, and if so how many long term jobs will be lost in comparison to the number of long term jobs created. Or will we continue with all our electricity production and sell all the electricity from Site C to the good old USA for next to nothing, and pay off Hydro debt over a period of two hundred years??

Remember for every action there is a reaction.

All that power you mention is not firm base power. The power from the IPP’s is more costly than Hydro because of costs and contracts written. Generation is not built to match load, there has to be a built in surplus in case of generation, transmission outages and low water years and again to backup alternative power sources.

Now if there is a generation or transmission outage with no backup are you willing to endure a blackout? Now this available backup or surplus when available is sold on the open market to western Canada and down to Mexico or would you rather we dump the water for nothing.

Co-gen does reduce the generation needs of Hydro but backup is still required but hopefully not all co-gen plants go down at the same time as that could have consequences to the amount of backup surplus along with other possible generation outages.

It is not a conspiracy.

Our power rates are up because of political generation, expensive IPP’s, and aging infrastructure not planned for by all governments.

Oh my all that manure gas in Abby must be getting to you. Surprise our manufacturing in the US and Canada has gone overseas. Try to keep up.

Seamut . My point was that with all the cheap power from Site C. These run of the river projects, and co-gen plants will no longer be needed.

Palopu please read what I have written. Run of river and co-gen are not firm power, that is not firm power. Site C and the majority of Hydro generation is firm base power. Site C is required for backup to this more expensive power. Our load is increasing and base load is required. These not needed arguments have preceeded every project ever built. Where would we be without these projects? Do you have an answer?