Clare to Run as Independent
Monday, August 17, 2015 @ 3:55 AM
Prince George, B.C. – Add another name to the federal ballot for Cariboo-Prince George.
Sheldon Clare has made his decision and will run as an independent in the riding.
Clare has been a staunch Conservative, active in the riding association. He is a history instructor at CNC and President of the National Firearms Association.
Clare will make it official tomorrow morning.
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As a long term Conservative voter, quite honestly I have no idea why he is running. Although he has every right to run for office this make no sense as he identifies himself as a staunch Conservative , so lets get real and call this for what it is… I am concerned about the enormous amount of support being sent his way from high profile NDP and Liberal members and left leaning media types… Wow, what do they know that Sheldon Clare and his friends haven’t figured out yet? They know vote splitting is their only option to take the riding! First rule of Conservationism, is that we all get on the same blue wagon during an election. Problems can be solved from inside the party, not by mindless vote splitting. Reminder, Alberta! Have we not learned anything from that mess? IMO anyone supporting Sheldon politically needs to give their head a shake! He will be left holding the bag on this in the end, he can’t win as an Independent, and math is not his friend. Anybody telling him otherwise is either deceptive or delusional.
Mr Clare will get my vote. He will represent my interests and the regions, better than anyone I can think of. And , thank you for stepping up.
Veritas, after that gong show put on by the OP riding association to replace D Harris I do not think things can be changed internally. Also, as a long time conservative voter I do recognize that Harper has to go. It his his ego that will give him a slim minority government or a loss. A loss is not in the best interest for Canada, neither are his policies in the last term.
Sorry, but I do recall Sheldon supporting Fedorkiw during the Conservative nomination, I even received a letter from him as president of the NFA encouraging members to vote for Nick… so please explain that one?
In order to prove my point, his Face Book page pretty much says it all. A post by a well known local leftie tagged Sheldon with her encouragement, her August 4th comment in the tread read… “He will split the Conservative vote” (with a smiley face) This is concerning… the left is using him to hand the riding and possibly the election over to the NDP. As a member of the NFA the last thing I want to see is that stupid gun registry back or worse under a Federal NDP government. If Clare doesn’t clearly see what his “good friends” are up to then he has no business in politics or as president of the NFA.
Anyone that votes for Harper is not voting for local representation, but rather a totalitarian wearing conservative colors.
Harper is no conservative in no way, and only uses them as useful idiots for an agenda that is all about globalist bankers. Our local conservative candidates are nothing more than puppets for a regime that is set on destroying the very fabric of Canadian democracy and the free enterprise economy.
Good on Sheldon Clair for standing up for conservative values in the face of the fraud that is the conservative party of Canada.
I think although most would rather see Mulcair as prime minster, rather than Harper… most in this region will not vote for the ndp candidates that are running. I think the ndp vote count will actually go down in this riding. I think the liberals will pick up most of the lost ndp votes, making this a strong four way race. The collapse of the ndp in this riding makes an independent conservative a very real option.
From people I have been talking to that were long time conservative voters, they like the idea of voting for Clair so at least they can feel their vote has integrity. So that one actually has an option on the ballot. I hadn’t know this before this weekend, but apparently his family is well connected in this region and his father is well known among the older generation.
I think if Sheldon can run a great campaign, then he has a lot more support out there than party centric folks would think.
Of course the Harper conservatives will do what they do best and try to tear down the man, his character, and his motives… and if that don’t work try to threaten him with innuendo.
Look, my wife says I rant way too much on this site but this really ticks me off, so please allow me to say I’m a proud Conservative, have been for over 40 years, and yes there are issues within my party that need solutions. Love Harper/Hate Harper? Have high profile Conservatives done some asinine things? Yes, but NDP and Libs have crappy people in their parties as well. I prefer to stick to my core values and effect progress from within. Furbink said it best “A loss is not in the best interest for Canada” Vote splitting IMO is a lose/lose outcome for Conservatives … its not rocket science folks!
I doubt if anyone will try very hard to tear down Sheldon. Why bother,. Its pretty obvious that he and those who support him are still smarting over the fact their man did not win the nomination. Keep in mind that Fedorkiw and Green lost the nomination and were very upset. Sheldon was as mentioned above a Fedorkiw supporter, so we can assume that he will get his support from the Green and Fedorkiw camp. These people are alive and well in our community, and still p….d off about losing.
Don’t get any stupid ideas that somehow or other you can get some representation in Ottawa by electing an Independent. An Independent will be on the outside looking in.
What would more likely happen is that if Sheldon was elected as an Independent, and the Conservatives formed the Government, especially a minority Government he would cross the floor and join the Conservatives.
So if you think for a minute this whole exercise is for those people who lost the nomination in PG Cariboo, and are now trying to get in through the back door, and are willing to split the vote, and put the riding at risk of being lost, just to satisfy their ambitions.
Think hard about the end game before you make any decisions.
Guns and gods . You’ve got the harperettes raddled Clair . How can you tell ? They are not allowed to use your last name . Like Trudeau . You’re only allowed to use his first name . Like George War bush only used his enemies first names . As long as they can’t say Trudeau out loud I’ll call your guy stevie . A de clair ation of independence . The right could use more independents rather than all those old , whipped guys in depends .
I suppose you support someone in an election who has zero chance of making any real difference. I don’t always agree with our system but you need to have others standing beside you to make a difference.
We have that in our region, it is called the people who live here. Don’t believe me? Then get stuck, people here stop to help each other. A first term MP no matter who they are, will be lost for 2 years and with noone to show them the rope, maybe 2 terms as an independent.
Sheldon has great spirit and a big ego, which he can use for a while to sell people he is making a difference, but in the long run he will not make any difference. So if you want Sheldon to have in interesting but unfruitful term in office. Vote for him.
If he gets in, he can work on selling you he can make a difference. Likely as a longterm conservative you will just see him walk across the floor. So Harper haters, he is not likely your guy. Just a disgruntled Nick supporter who does not like to lose.
The voters in Cariboo-Prince George will set matters right after the ethically challenged nomination process for the CPC candidate. first Shari’s raiders to take the association and next support for the weakest candidate out of one corner. the CPC knew all about it and did nothing. Sheldon Clare will receive votes out of all camps that is called democracy. Vote Sheldon Clare on election day ! And support him in any way possible. Be independent ! Integrity matters
What did Dick Harris bring to PG in his 20-years in office. Nothing… he didn’t even live in the riding or within 800km of the riding. Heck even Zimmer lives a good 400km from PG.
If Clair is elected as an independent he may not have power in parliament, but maybe he will in a minority government. But no one can deny that PG Cariboo would now be a riding in play and would garner interest from all parties, for the first time maybe ever. That is power in and of itself.
Electing another conservative party candidate virtually ensures this riding continues to be ignored in Ottawa.
BTW
Harper says this election is about terror and security. So maybe we should be asking the Harper government and its candidates what happened to the $3.1 billion that was allocated for anti terror spending that disappeared and has never been accounted for.
What kind of government with any sense of fiscal responsibility looses $3.1 Billion dollars, that is $3,100,000,000 dollars and yet its just vanished and not even an accounting error to account for it, just silence from Harper and ossification of any accountability.
Who in the conservative government stole the $3.1 Billion for partisan agenda’s under anti terror funding that was not approved in parliament. Does it fund our CSIS agents in Syria that helped with smuggling foreigners into the country for isis? Did it go to funding the right sector neo nazi’s in Ukraine that Harper is now training with our Canadian soldiers?
What in the name of Canada’s good name happened to the $3.1 billion that disappeared and has not been accounted for?
http: //www. theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/where-the-hecks-that-31-billion-wheres-the-fury/article15503778/
How can they make such a vast sum of money simply disappear? 10 years of open, honest and transparent government? Sure!
do we really need a firearms fanatic…
and since he is a conservative, I feel he will toss his votes to Harper, every time…I have has enough of Harper…
@ Eagleone – your political ideology seems to be strangling the hell out of your common sense! Where do you get that kind of reasoning? Local Federal Libs are not going anywhere with their candidates. The last national poll has Trudeau with a 0.1% chance of forming government. The battle will be Conservative vs NDP, who are prepared for this fight fresh off their Alberta win, and with members who will vote for anyone of the three nomination candidates… in fact they would probably vote for orange Kool-Aid, if it was on the ballot. Believe me the last thing I want to say is I told you so, as an NDP MP is swore in for Cariboo/Prince George. Conservatives need unity not vote splitting.
Oh, now what’s all this talk about vote splitting, we still have a right in this country to say screw you and vote any way we please. Call it a protest vote call it anything you want but for those that take the time to vote its based on personal principles.
Conservatives need unity not vote splitting.
I don’t think so! The conservatives in Ottawa need to be spanked. THE liability in the party is Harper as the polls suggest. Instead of announcing that he would lead the party to its doom the best thing he could have done is open the door for a successor. This would make him one of the best PM’s we have had in a long time due to his teams handling of the financial crisis in 2008. Instead, he is undoing all the good that has been done by introducing fascist policies to feed the unquenchable ego.
The last national poll has Trudeau with a 0.1% chance of forming government. The battle will be Conservative vs NDP, who are prepared for this fight fresh off their Alberta win, and with members who will vote for anyone of the three nomination candidates…
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The last poll I saw on the CBC had the NDP at 31.9%, the Reformers at 30.1% and the Liberals at 27%. The tightening of the numbers looks to be primarily due to the Reformers losing support in Ontario.
If I were a betting man, my money would be on the NDP losing support as election day nears, with those votes going to the Liberals. Once the dust settles and regardless of who “wins”, I think you’ll see a Liberal/NDP coalition style government with the Reformers on the outside looking in.
I think anybody who has known Sheldon for a long time knows that they get exactly what they see. I would find that really refreshing in an MP. That’s why I will vote for Sheldon on Oct 19.
Eagleone the missing 3.1 Billion is being used to spy on you.
And I think Harper is more republican than conservative or even reform. I can’t vote for Mr. Clare since I live in a different riding but I would if I could. (Yes I know I am just another disillusioned conservative.)
Holy cow ! Veritas Doherty sounds very worried today.
Digitus Impudicus. The last Independent that ran in this area, ie; PG Peace River got a total of roughly 574 votes. So who’s worried.
Everyone knows, or will know very soon that Sheldon is a Conservative through and through, so his running as an Independent is more out of spite than for the good of the riding. Perhaps it strokes his ego, or some such, but at the end of the day a vote for Sheldon is a vote for a Conservative, so why split the vote.???
Palopu….you need not worry about me splitting your con vote. I am going to vote for the best candidate in my riding. And so far, that someone doesn’t have Con attached to their name.
I guess I should have said …..Holy Cow ! Veritas Doherty and Palopu sound very worried today.
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