Kinsley should leave early. He would not be missed.

It seems he had no problem shutting down the Cameron St Bridge for 3 plus years and re routing dangerous goods traffic through Carney St. and 5th Avenue.

It seems when things dont go his way he gets petulant.

Thank God and Greyhound he*s gone.

ok maybe I am daft, but.........wouldn't a dangerous goods route be better off going down Queensway then having those tankers filled with goodness only knows what going directly down a busy street as Victoria??

going down Victoria doesn't make sense to me, Queensway sounds like a more viable route.

Dangerous goods going down the Ferry/Queensway corridor puts more people at a greater risk than the 20th and Vic route. Ferry/Queensway is almost completely residential.

Imagine a toxic disaster happening on Queensway during the middle of the night while everyone is asleep.
I don't see too many people sleeping along the 20th and Vic route.

Who approves of a dangerous goods route going through a residential area? Raise your right hand.
Sorry Colin you lose, asta la vista baby.

But what about air pollution with these trucks stopping/starting at all the intersections along 20th and Victoria?

Imagine a toxic disaster during the day at 3rd and Victoria while people are working.

More air pollution from planes and trains than a few trucks.

It's not like we are talking about dozens of trucks a day here.

When people are working they can follow directions from emergency personel.

When people are sleeping they are sleeping and can take direction from no one until they get woke up.

I suppose dying in your sleep is a good way to go.

"It seems he had no problem shutting down the Cameron St Bridge for 3 plus years and re routing dangerous goods traffic through Carney St. and 5th Avenue"

Actually, dangerous goods have been traveling along Carney and Fifth since the early 80"s but only on one side of the streets. When the Cameron Street bridge was closed for three years, the goods were coming along the by-pass down Fifth and along Carney street on both sides of Fifth and Carney. No-one was concerned about the residents, most particularily Kinsley. I can prove that. A Mayor who is supposed to represent all residents certainly has fallen far short of concern. Now he is concerned about Victoria Street. Why the double standard?
Are not the residents in the area of Carney and Fifth not as valuable as all other areas of the City?

Dangerous goods presently travel on the Bypass (Highway 97) and Victoria St. Both these routes are on Provincial Highways and therefore are already cleared for Dangerous Goods. Even if the City declared Queensway as the designated route, dangerous goods vehicles would still be allowed to travel on the Provincial roads ie; Highway 97 (bypass) and Highway 16 (Victoria St.)

So the question is why does Kinsley want the route on Queensway. Could it be because the City could then approach the Feds, and Provincial Governments for money to upgrade Queensway. Would an up graded Queensway include revisiting the plan to build a road on lower Patricia Blvd to an overpass on First Avenue to connect with an upgraded River Road???? Has this anything to do with the relocation of the co-generation plant. How much property does the City own on lower Patricia Blvd.
Plenty I suspect.

The real question is, why should Kinsley care one way or the other when he is due to leave office in 24 days??

There is (as usual) more to this than meets the eye.

Kinsley should take any holidays due to him and not return to City Hall until we have a new Mayor, that way he wouldnt be able to get us in anymore debt before he leaves.

Via Condiose Colin.

"The enforcement portion would be laid on the shoulders of the RCMP, but the RCMP say that is not a priority for them."

I kinda sorta thought that the RCMP was the City Police under contract. Why does the City not set priorities with them?

Having the Dangerous Goods route going down queensway is in my opinion a much better route. There are WAAAY less traffic lights, and these trucks will be out back on the highway much faster and safer than going down the much higher traffic dense route of Victoria st.

Anyone remember the loaded logging truck that flipped in the sharp corner on Queensway near North Central Bailiffs?

I believe the driver died in that one.

How about the Rubber tired mobile crane that flipped off the back of a lowbed while zipping through the s curves at the top of the hill on Ferry/Queensway?

Imagine if these rigs were carrying actual dangerous goods. Like molten sulphur, Gasoline, radioactive material, etc, etc, etc.

What do you suppose the chances are that you would ever see a heavy truck carrying dangerous goods or other types of goods travelling down Victoria St having any incidents similar to the ones I listed above.

Queensway as a DGR is a disaster looking for a place to happen.

If there are any DG's that need to go east from Ferry Ave then they should travel south down 97 then across to the old Cariboo hwy then east. Skirting the city is even better.

this all points out the need for a ring road system, where industrial traffic doesn't have to go through residential or high density areas at all.

putting those trucks (like chlorine for the pulp mill) through the middle of town is asking for disaster!

this all points out the need for a ring road system, where industrial traffic doesn't have to go through residential or high density areas at all.

putting those trucks (like chlorine for the pulp mill) through the middle of town is asking for disaster!

Get real. The pulp mills havent used Chlorine for at least 10 years. Most dangerous goods for the pulp mills are shipped by rail; ie; Sulphuric Acid, Sulphur Dioxide. Oxygen is manufactured on site.

The exception is Hydrogen Peroxide which is manufactured by the FMC Corp on pulp mill road. This commodity is shipped by truck and rail. Trucks would go West on 16, North on the Hart Highway, East on 16, and South on 97. None of these destinations set up for travelling on Queensway. Gasoline and Diesel trucks would still have to go through and around the City to service the gas stations.

The fact of the matter is, is that there is very little Dangerous goods coming into or through the City, with the exception of gas and diesel and therefore this whole excercise is futile.

We have used the By;pass for the past 30 years for truck traffic and dangerous goods and will continue to do so. Although Victoria St is also a Provincial road and therefore a dangerous goods route, it is rarely used as such, with the exception of gas and diesel trucks.