I'm Totally sick of all politics in this country. As usual just looking out afer themselves and piss on the taxpayer.

I know for a fact the police aren't amused with harper. freezing their wages again like back in the 90's...we need good police...if you pay them peanuts you;ll get monkeys... look to the police legal fund to sue him for breach of contract on their wage increases.

Why vote?...........

I know for a fact that many big city police forces are looking for hundreds if not thousands of police officers. If these police don't like their pay they can go to a city police force that isn't paid by the government.

Steven Harper should start playing hard ball. Since it's been discovered that the NDP and Bloc have been conspiring for some time to come up with this coalition from hell. It's quite obvious that this isn't because of a lack of stimulus package, it's a power grab. I find it quite disgusting that parties that couldn't come through in an election can take power through a technicality. Clearly if the Canadian voters wanted Dion as their PM they would have voted for him, but they didn't. In the end I hope this backfires and come next election Harper or the next Con leader gets a majority and screws the opposition over as best they can.

It will be good to see Jay Hill and Dick, always a bridesmaid, Harris back on the opposition benches. The thought of Parliment still being capable of holding Harper and his bullying tactics accountable has restored some of my faith in that institution. Ignoreing the fact that a minority government must seek consensus from the house must be quite a shock to his ego

A month and a half ago,canadians were heaping insults and jokes on Stephane Dion and Jack Layton.
Now,Dion,Layton, and Duceppe are going have this big lovefest,bury the hatchet, and straighten Canada out?
This is all about themselves and not canadians.
To believe otherwise would be incredibly naive.
It is all about power, which all three of these lameducks would do just about anything to have.
All three of them are in their death throes as far as their political careers are concerned and they know it.
Especially Dion...he is almost a political dead man,and he is going to be the Prime Minister of Canada?
Hello?
And what did Dion and Layton promise Duceppe?
Because you can bet your next income tax statement they promised him SOMETHING.
I don't like Steven Harper and never did,but I like these three opportunists even less.
For Canada to actually believe they are sincere and only concerned for the country could very well be the biggest mistake canadians have ever made.
But that is what they would like us to think.
You know who REALLY gets to drive the boat in this scenario?
As crazy as it sounds,it could very well be Duceppe and Quebec.
He would tear Canada apart at the drop of a hat...and now he will be making decisions for the rest of Canada?
Do we see something very wrong with this picture?
If this mess doesn't scare the hell out of westerners,it sure as hell should!
Not all of the Consevative's ideas have been bad,but it is these three self-serving no minds who have prevented the "elected" government of Canada from working since day one.
Only a fool would believe they are sincere.

I for one am not looking forward to a coalition government! Ran by Jean Chretien in the shadows and a seperatist party!!! what the hell is this world coming too????

I thought if they voted no confidence ,that there would be another election not a take over,isn't that called mutany.Anyway,thats why i would like to see two votes in the election;one vote with all parties and a second vote with the top two,always aclear winner.
On another note,whith a minority why and how can Harper be a bully.

Tell me Andyfreeze, when Stephen Harper made an agreement with Layton and Duceppe in 2004, and they sent a joint letter to the Governor General saying their coalition had the support of Parliament should the Liberals be defeated, did the same apply as you apply now?

Was Harper out for himself?
Was it all about Harper and not Canadians?
Was Harper in a power grab?
What did Harper promise Duceppe for his support?
Was Harper in his political death throes?

If making an agreement with properly and legally elected Members of Parliament is wrong just because you do not like their political views, how can we say we live in a free society?

All MPs are equal. Conservative MPs are NOT more equal than the rest, and if the majority of MPs choose to show a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister, then they have the right to do so. That is how our system works.

If you do not like the way Parliament works then get the system changed. Expect more of this if you do, however, since proportional representation tends to bring colaitions about. MPs HAVE to work together to get things done, just like the three parties are doing now.

I am not sure yet whether I am in favour of this coalition, but please not let us exagerrate either the motivations or the consequences. They are not demons, despite the Conservative campaign to convince voters otherwise. They are just politicians trying to do the best they can.

Bullying doesn't always pay off - eventually the bully might be shown the door.

Blurb, you said it all!

With a minority government,all Harper had to do was find make a deal with at least one of the other parties. Instead all three other parties have found common cause. Speaks volumes on Harpers motivation and character. Our (for the moment) Prime Minister does not play well with others. How can he continue? The coalition should be given a chance. They at least have shown a willingness to work together. That is what we need at the moment. We need our MP's to pull together for the common good of all Canadians. Harper was given the chance and failed.

Time to get the ball rolling for Western Canada Seperation. To hell with the powerbase bandits in eastern Canada.

absolute BS that the bloc can have such power in parliament. if this goes through the governor general will take the voice away from the people who just spoke in a federal election less than 2 months ago...


ABSOLUTE GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It will be interesting to see what advice Harper gives the Governor-General if his government loses in a non-confidence vote. And whether the Governor-General follows that advice, or not.

So far as who's to be the government goes, it really doesn't make much difference.

Neither the Conservatives nor the proposed Coalition are offering anything other than methods of dealing with a severe recession that have all been tried before, here and elsewhere, and failed miserably.

A program of "austerity" in government to try to keep the books balanced will be shown to be no more successful than the type of big time "deficit spending" on infrastructure others are advocating.

The injection of needed 'new money' into the economy should come from the bottom up, by properly relating overall "consumer incomes" to the overall financial "costs of production" being constantly impressed into prices at the point of final retail.

Instead of 'spending' ourselves further into debt for infrastructure that, even if needed or desirable in its own right, will cost us two, or three, or more times what it should before it's ever paid for ~ if it's EVER paid for ~ the Government should apply the same amount of money to lowering consumer prices.

A Compensated Price Discount could introduce new money into the economy in a way which benefits each and every one of us, because it is counter-inflationary. It is not, like the proposed "stimulus" alternatives, going to rob you of the purchasing power of your earnings, and effectively make you "work for nothing."

It would be simple to do, the apparatus needed is already in place in the bureaucracy that administers the GST. It would be a GST in reverse.

A merchant would lower his prices from what he regularly charges, say by 25%, greatly stimulating "consumer demand" and "economic activity" (re-employment), and at the end of the month the Bank of Canada would rebate him the difference between the "regular price" and the "discounted one."

Merchants and manufacturers' rates of profit would be maintained. Their loans, which are amortized from those profits, would be paid. The "new money" would NOT come from "taxation", as will be the case eventually with the "stimulus" now proposed, but from the increase in gross domestic product relative to overall debt. Which we then would be in a position to reduce, rather than add to.

"They are just politicians trying to do the best they can."
Now come on ammonra... I know damn well you are not that naive!
This mess is a power grab by 3 politicians who see it as their last stab at obtaining any kind of power.
And they will do or say anything to get it.
Whether we like Harper or not,and I don't,is completely irrellevant.
Not everything the Conservatives tried to do was wrong, but it was these 3 stooges who effectively stopped parliment from working ever since Harper took office.
This didn't just start a week ago.
To believe this is anything other than a power grab is not only naive,it is dangerous!
What IS being exaggerated is that these 3 boneheads would have us believe they are doing this for CANADA?
Anyone want to buy a bridge?
I would also recommend that if this bastardization of democracy actually happens,we had better all learn to speak french in a hurry!

This is crap, I would rather see another federal election than have these clowns govern our country because their tax payer funding was getting cut.Boo hoo, if they need the money go raise it instead of depending on 'welfare'. Secondly, while there was no stimulas package announced the current gov't over the past couple of years has reduced the GST, and lowered income and corporate taxes as well as interest rate cuts to provide stimulas. While there may be more 'stimulas' needed I don't think creating political chaos and throwing 30 billion around creating a deficit is the answer.

Like it or not just under 2/3 of Canadians voted for a party other than the Conservatives. In a democracy we respect the will of the majority.

The problem is that the country would be run by exactly the same people who we have elected to run it now. If they couldn't agree up until now, what is going to be different in the future? A new leader is going to change things? Not if the leader is Dion, Layton or Duceppe. They are not leadership material. One had to only watch their arrogance during the debates to see that. They also have no respect for others. That too was obvious. It is my hope that Governor General Michelle Jean shuts the whole charade down. This so called coalition is a strategy that has been planned long before now. It's a desperate attempt to take control. Just because they have created an opportunity to do so, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. We had an election and the people spoke. So, let's get on with the business of running our country.

Well said zoom!
And THAT is exactly the point!
What are we as canadians prepared to scarifice to achieve the same results in a more confusing and costly form?
This IS a bastardization of democracy.
Just because parlimentary proceedure allows it to be done, doesn't make it morally right.
What IS morally right is the god given right of the people of Canada to VOTE!

Andyfreeze, that is the kind of talk I was referring to when I suggested we do not exaggerate. The agreement has made it clear that power is shared, so where is the grab?

Layton is almost certain never to be PM, so where is his power grab? He is far more likely to be motivated philosophically, to get some small amount of social democrat policy implemented rather than to improve his personal career, which really is not in jeopardy at the present time anyway.

Dion is lame duck. His career has peaked, so where is the power grab? He will be replaced by someone else if he becomes PM, and we don't know yet who that will be.

Duceppe is focussed on Quebec, and I suspect that he simply thinks that Quebec is better served in a Canada governed by a lefter leaning coalition than by an ultra-right government which includes many MPs who have shown contempt for and reviled Quebecers, and still do if the comments made in many blogs reflect those MPs views.

I do believe that the coalition has been formed because MPs think it will be best, that cooperation and not confrontation is needed in these difficult times. I am not sure it will accomplish its goal, and I am going to defer approval until I am sure.

I do not subscribe to the oft stated belief that politicians are in it just for themselves. I believe that is nonsense. In fact, I know it is.

In Canada we don't vote for a Prime Minister. Unlike the US where there is a Presidential election, we vote for our local MP. Whichever party or coalition of parties has the most MPs' gets to choose the leader. Harper has proven he cannot lead Parliament. Its time to give others a chance.

We are in tough economic times...who do we have lead:
a)Someone with economics degree(Harper)
b)A seperatist
c)A leader that wont be a leader is 6 months
d)Someone with no experience on a national level
e)A fifth grader

Ok ammonra...you have just shown that each of these 3 stooges is a lame duck in their own right.
The people of Canada did not elect them to lead Canada.
Under our constitution,they were elected to enough seats to be the "opposition" only, according to the votes they received.
Based on the percentage of votes they recieved individually,none of them won a majority.
They lost,plain and simple.
Tell me honestly,do you think they will be any smarter or any more capable of leading Canada if they pretend to put their collective heads together in the name of a better Canada?
Each of these 3 have their own personal agenda's and that will not change because each of them,particularly Dion and Layton, see this as stepping stone to a possible election win down the road and a recovery from political oblivion.
(assuming of course the people of Canada are still allowed to vote!)
Get ready for a real power struggle, because if they pull this off,it will be a sideshow unlike any we have ever seen, with each of the parties struggling to be regarded as the strongest and the smartest.
They will NOT work together for very long before the back stabbing and infighting begins.
But that's MY personal take on it...we should now agree to disagree!
Cheers!

Andyfreeze, no party won a majority. They all lost, plain and simple. The only question now is who can work with others. Harper has proven he can't. The majority of Canadians voted for a party other than the Conservatives. Respect democracy.

I have a lot of respect for Stefan Dion and I am not liberal. Insulting him does nothing for this debate.

One must not look much further than how each of the parties are run to get a feel as to how they would run our country. Without taxpayer funding the parties forming this coalition would be on the verge of bankrupcy. The governing party does not need government funding for their existance. If the coalition parties are in financial crisis, how will they manage the financial well being of our country?

Lamb, Dion is a self serving idiot along with Layton. At least duceppe is consistant. All Quebec, screw the rest.

Herbster...."respect democracy". You have to be severly warped to construe this with democracy. These 3 dorks don't like their taxpayer funding pulled. Plain and simple. They could give a rats ass about whats good for Canada.

"Tell me honestly,do you think they will be any smarter or any more capable of leading Canada if they pretend to put their collective heads together in the name of a better Canada?"

I am always honest in expressing my opinions, Andyfreeze.

I don't know if they will be more effective than Harper, I sincerely hope they will, but that is why I said I am deferring my approval of the coalition.

I do believe that Harper played chicken with the opposition parties because he thought they would do nothing. Now that has back fired on him, when a more cooperative approach would have been effective. That shouts volumes about Harper.

I suggest that the three leaders of the opposition parties are not making a pretence of putting their heads together. I suspect they are actually doing it, working in a cooperative manner to benefit the country. Where it will lead I don't know, but Lamb has it right. Insulting them does nothing for the debate.

So much for the endlessly repeated mantra that minority governments are best for the country.

They are good only if the governing party is not run by a power lusting manipulator who delights in seeing the others squirm in frustration while having their faces pushed into political smear and innuendo.

GWB has been extremely successful at that and us here north of the boarder should not try to imitate this dictatorial arm twisting and bullying.

What happened to the Conservative Mulroney/Schreiber cash payments under the table affair?

Last I heard was that Schreiber is still in Canada!

So much for open and honest government!

make that "border" - please.

In reality,it may be unfair to say Harper can't govern herbster,even though I do not like the guy or his party.
And you're right,they all lost to some degree, but some lost worse than others, and Dion and the Liberals took the biggest hit.
Now Dion gets to be Prime Minister?
Hello?...what kind of democracy is that?
But the point is, the opposition has never given the Conservatives a chance to govern so we will likely never know what they could have done.
The opposition effectively stopped parliment from working from day one by stonewalling everything they tried to do and wasting taxpayers time and money and there is no question about that.
And that was good for Canada?
As an example,Harper would likely have beefed up our criminal justice system, just as he said he would.
Canadians told him it was a priority and they wanted it done.
So why in gods name,would the opposition NOT want some teeth put into our criminal law and penalties?
Why would they stop that from going ahead?
Did they do that for the good of Canada, or for their own self interests?
And by the same token,I believe this so-called coalition will prove to be in the self-interest of all three parties.
A pig is still a pig no matter how much makeup you put on it and regardless of what Dion,Layton,and Duceppe are telling canadians,they still have their own party and personal agendas.
If this goes ahead,I think we are going to see a power struggle among the 3 coalition parties like never before.
Actually,I think it will fall apart in short order so it will be interesting to watch, if in fact it happens.
And I am still not convinced that it will.
Are Dion and Layton actually stupid enough to think the Gilles Duceppe and the Bloc won't put the screws to them and the rest of Canada if and when they get the chance?
Duceppe will be the one to watch.
It's going to be a bloody mess, because NOTHING is ever as simple as it seems.
There is a lot more taking place here than meets the eye and I am willing to bet it will not be pretty.

If the three stooges get in this will be bad news for the west. The stooges parties lost the election, get over it. They where unable to raise the votes or money, that should tell then something. People complain Harper is big money, so what. Look what happened in the states, the republicans, big money, got steamrolled by the democrats.

Now if the coalition of stooges gets in I believe that will be very bad news for the west. Remember when Ontario was the powerhouse and the feds where an Ontario government with Quebec running along behind. The west only got a few crumbs. The coalition will be very eastern biased and will attempt to grab more than their share of the wests energy money.

In the end I think it more likely that the west could separate.

Diplomat,what about the sponsorship scandals, last I read is Chretian/Martin are being consulted and a part of this coalition

We are living in interesting times. A coalition of which 1/3 of the members have a single interest and that being breaking up Canada now probably making certain that one province is MORE equal than others....
We have a GG with all sorts of media experience but no political savvy...
If this goes forward we'll have a PM that nobody, even his own party wanted,whose party could not even runa a creditable election campaign and Layton whose ideas were predicated on never having to put them into effect...
Oh and a financial crisis unseen in history..

It would appear that Cretien and Broadbent are actually pulling the strings behind this crap and probably Martin as well.
Defeated old warhorses who still think they are the "force" in Canada.
That should tell us that nothing is quite as simple as it seems, but what is really amazing is that they are getting away with it, without any attention focused on them.
But then,mainstream media support the Liberals.
Always have,always will.
This did not just start,no doubt it has been going on in the backrooms for a long time and in some countries,that's called "treason".
'Nuff said.

So if Mr. Dion is Prime Minister fer six months is he "ENTITLED" to a Prime Ministers pension? Nice work if you can get it. I am entitled to my entitlements. Hmmm? Where have I heard that before?

Is it now politically correct to call the Bloc a bunch of traitors? Seems to me that that word has been bandied about these last few days.

At this point its going to be either a coalition government or a new election. For all those that don't want a coalition- what do you think the Conservatives chances are in a new election? Harper has alienated a good many people with the last unnecessary election that cost us $300 million (and broke his own law). Another $300 million will be spent to find that the Conservatives are less popular than before. Be careful what you wish for.

if the stock market is any indicator (tsx)
it seems like investors think this is a bad idea having a coalition gorvernment.

The Bloc is going to care about the needs of the west. I don't think so, If this is the case than we need to talk to Alberta, Saskatchwan and tell Ottawa to shove it, were out of here.

Lets face it, the only reason why they want to have a coalition is because Harper wanted to cut out the $1.75 per vote subsidy to the Parties to keep costs down and save $30 million dollars. This meant the Liberals would have lost out on something like $8 million dollars, thus they are already on the verge of bankruptcy. So Dion is just being a little boy, who lost the race. The Bloc is looking for a free ride, and Layton has no clue whats going on, but it might be popular.

Zoom: "Diplomat,what about the sponsorship scandals, last I read is Chretian/Martin are being consulted and a part of this coalition"

The sponsorship issue was settled and came to a successful conclusion with the work of the Chief Justice Gomery Inquiry.

The guilt of certain persons was determined and they were held accountable.

It's over. That cannot be said about the Mulroney/Schreiber affair, which was left in limbo. We still don't know what happened.

How very interesting that four years ago Mr. Harper himself was negotiating with the other parties (including the Bloc) in an attempt to explore possibilities to bring down the government of the day.

Let me start by saying I support the Conservatives but this whole mess is entirely Harper's fault. You don't use a minority government to try eliminating political funding that would effectively destroy every other party. However, the alternative, particularly when if can only function with the help of separatists, is entirely out of the question.

To ammonra, herbster, and whoever else thinks this is a good idea. Take a closer look at the election results when you keep saying the majority of "Canadians" voted for the opposition parties. Sure, technically that is true, but look at where the votes actually came from. The Liberals won 77 seats across the country. This includes 4 in Vancouver out of 5 total in BC, 12 in Montreal out of 14 in Quebec, and 32 in Toronto out of 38 in Ontario. That's 48 out of 77 seats in 3 voter rich metropolitan centers. In terms of votes these seats come from roughly 1.59 million of the Liberals 3.63 million votes across the country. So 62% of their seats and 44% of their votes came from 3 big cities.

Then there's the Bloc who are separatists and vote on only one province and with the sole purpose of trying to leave Canada.

Outside Toronto and the Maritimes, the NDP almost did better then the Liberals, but they have never been a threat to form the government by themselves and never will be.

Whereas the Conservatives, won the West, Ontario even without Toronto, Nuunavut, and New Brunswick, (or 10 out 25 seats in in NB,NS,PEI) only being shut out of the 9 seats that comprise NFLD, Yukon, and NWT. Kinda seems like they have support across the country, doesn't it.

So sure, technically most Canadians did vote for the opposition. Then when you really look at the numbers you realize that outside the downtown's of Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal, the support for the Liberals who would lead the coalition, just isn't there. The fact they would have to be propped up by Separatists just makes things a million times worse.

Especially considering they have supposedly been offered 6 senate seats for their support. The party of Trudeau who fought the FLQ with the amry, the first time separation was tried, has offered Separatists, senate seats because Dion is on a power grab before he loses his own parities leadership.

Anyone who thinks this is good for Canada is an imbacile.

Andyfreeze - I have to agree with you. The conservatives tried to put thru some good things, but were blocked at every turn.
This whole situation makes me ill and embarassed to admit I am Canadian.

I don't see how it can be constitutional to have a man in power that campaigns only in one province. I don't think that should happen - if you run a party you should have to run to represent ALL of Canda.
As for Dion - the man must have horseshoes up ..... Here is a fellow who was never in front runners for the Liberal leadership - but ends up there and now a guy that was rejected as PM - ends up there
Only in Canada eh!

Andyfreeze - I have to agree with you. The conservatives tried to put thru some good things, but were blocked at every turn.
This whole situation makes me ill and embarassed to admit I am Canadian.

I don't see how it can be constitutional to have a man in power that campaigns only in one province. I don't think that should happen - if you run a party you should have to run to represent ALL of Canda.
As for Dion - the man must have horseshoes up his..... Here is a fellow who was never in front runners for the Liberal leadership - but ends up there and now a guy that was rejected as PM - ends up there
Only in Canada eh!

So you think country folk votes are worth more than city folk votes? Last time I looked I live in a country where every vote counts the same. Its called a democracy. And no this turn of events is not the best situation. But blame Harper the hater for getting us here. At this point, its either another election at another $300million, or a coalition government. I'll rather give the other 3 parties a chance to make it work. But if there's an election, Harper will take out the Conservatives,at least in BC, Ontario and the Maritimes.

"A coalition of which 1/3 of the members have a single interest and that being breaking up Canada"

Why would a party that has an obsessive interest with separating (not breaking up Canada, that is another matter in which many regions of Canada actually play a part at various times) from Canada be interested in keeping a party in power that has a different opinion about how to deal with the crisis at hand - the economy NOT SEPARATION - when there are three parties who represent the majority of voters have different thoughts about how to deal with the ECONOMY.

I would think all provinces and all citizens of Canada would be concerned about the economy and financial security as being of primary importance at this time.

Stay focused people! Stay focused!

Those parties represent about 54% of those sitting in Parliament and about 63% of the popular vote. Coalitions are fair game. They are within the rules of Parliament. Harper needs to realize that. When he does, he might be a bit more humbled and be a better man and leader for it. His popular vote barely increased from the previous election. He consolidated strengths better and had the luck of having the opposition vote being split 2 if not 3 ways in many ridings. Given that, he should really have been able to come up with a majority, but was unable to. That failure is the real story of the last election.

Actually, just consider another $300 million for the next election as the Conservatives stimulus package!

Harper might have to step down in order for the Conservatives to regain control after the coalition fails miserably. I hope not. Just something to think about.

"A coalition of which 1/3 of the members have a single interest and that being breaking up Canada"

This statement represents another piece of Conservative propoganda disinformation. The coalition is made up of the Liberal Party and the NDP. That is two parties, and neither one promotes the separation of Quebec from Canada.

The Bloc is not part of the coalition, it has agreed that it will not defeat the coalition during a specified period, and that is the sum total of its involvement. Since it is not part of the coalition, the Bloc will not have any authority in the government greater than it has right at the moment.

Whatever ammonra, There is no coalition without the bloc. Spin it anyway you like
but the Dippers and thieves have crawled into bed with seperatists. I'm sure some Liberals aren't very proud today. As for the Dippers, who cares what they think. They are irrelevant. Layton as environment minister.......SCARY.

Some thoughts to consider;
1. That Governor General Michaelle Jean, in consultation with her advisors, will do the right thing.
2. That the public would remain calm and peaceful during such an emotional time. That diversity doesn't have to mean division.
3. That some good would come out of this process. That hidden agendas and self-interest would be exposed.
4. That our party leaders would show true humility, wisdom and responsibility.
5. That only the truth be reported and the media would not show favourtism for one party at the expense of another.
6. That our nation would prosper from good strong leadership during this global economic crisis.
7. That we would enjoy a stronger and healthier democracy as a result of this current political uncertainty. All Canadians need to participate in the democratic process.
8. That unity would emerge out of this fractured time. That we would see exemplary conduct and conversation from our MP's. (respect)
9. That average Canadians would be more imformed about the issues and that truth would prevail.
10. That common sense would overshadow emotions.

Rufftimes do you believe all that or did you write it as a joke.

I still hold out hope.

If, as you say, the NDP is irrelevant, then why all the insults, venom and lies about them? If they were truly irrelevant you would ignore them, right? Methinks, thou doest protest too much.

If the Bloc doesn't vote with the coalition, then who would they vote with? That woiuld be Harper wouldn't it? Wouldn't that mean he was then in bed with them? Is that the problem? Is that why there is all this propaganda from the Conservatives - Harper wants to be in bed with the Bloc?

Does Harper want to retain power so badly that he will cut a back room deal with the Bloc? I do not think that will happen, because Duceppe hates Harper, while he only dislikes Dion and Layton.

Either way though, Duceppe and the Bloc are in the driver's seat, holding the balance of power for either side with their votes. Quebec could come out of this with some very sweet deals.

Polar 7018 wrote.."if the stock market is any indicator (tsx)
it seems like investors think this is a bad idea having a coalition gorvernment."

-Foregien investors dont like to invest in countrys with unstable governments. Having said that.. Thanks to all the looney tunes in Ottawa right now Canada just increased risk on any investments.

Also if the markets werent bad enough already.. This sure isnt helping out. Im done with voting, politics.. and everyting else that has to do with it. Waste of time and money and effort! Doesnt matter who gets in there were screwed.

Bang on northman...this was the LAST thing the economy needed, but that didn't seem to mean much to the 3 stooges.
The market was just starting to tick up slowly and boom,right back in the crapper!
The only thing I have to disagree with you on that we all NEED to vote.
If more canadians had voted in the last federal election we might not be in this embarrassing pickle now.
To each his own.
Democracy gives us that choice, but obviously the 3 stooges in Ottawa and their coalition don't know that!

System works like this, the Man who can line up the most MP's behind him will lead, blue, green ,yellow or black it,s all about numbers and if you want to lead without the right numbers you have to play nice! So much for Politics .

CTV poll results...70% say go with the Conservatives and only 28.9% say NDP/Liberal.
No Bloc support indicated.
Probe Poll...80% say no money for Federal parties....20% say give them their lousy 1.95.
Also with Probe...62% say no to the Lib/NDP coalition...38%say yes.
73% of canadians say its a power grab.
30% say it's not.
In Alberta,only 23% would say ok to a Liberal/NDP coalition...only 18% would say ok to a Lib/NDP/Green coalition.
Again,nobody would even consider any kind of deal that included the Bloc.
But hey...they are all rednecks so what the hell do they know?
Gee...and who are Layton and Dion teaming up with?
Talk about out of touch with reality and canadians!

Don't want to rock your small world but if you want to make some money in the stock market, buy some Nexen stock. Rumour has it that they are going to be taken at almost double their stock price at $40 by Total (a FRENCH company-imagine that!)

On line petition for those wishing to send a message to our MPs that they were duly elected to uphold RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT.
http://canadians4democracy.ca/index.php?msg=submitted

if our governor general doesn't desolve parliament,the only winner out of this lot looks like duceppe.
maybe we out west should be pushing for separation from the rest of canda to.

A public opinion poll on this subject has 35% wanting the Tories to stay, but 37% wanting the coalition to replace them

Sorry, clicked the button too soon.

A public opinion poll on this subject has 35% wanting the Tories to stay, but 40% wanting a change. 37% want the coalition to replace the Tories, 32% want an election and 7% want the parties to reach agreements.

This was a proper, scientific poll conducted yesterday and tosay (1 & 2 Dec).

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081202/poll_future_081202/20081202?hub=TopStories

I find it appalling that my tax dollars are being used to further seperatist and socialist agendas. I feel this is extortion and is being forced on Canadians. Without their written approval this practice is undemocratic as well as dishonest. I suggest to all partys that it would be in their best interest to stop this political plundering. Extortion is unlawful exaction of money or property through intimidation or undue exercise of authority.
Plundering is: given to taking by force what is desired.
Pillage: goods or money obtained illegally.
It appears that 'pillage' and 'plunder' are alive and well in Canadiabn Government.

lawful plunder ; "the law takes from people what belongs to them and gives it to others to whom it does not belong, or benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime."

Sort of sounds like funding political parties to me. Harper has a good idea. I wrote to all the parties and gave them this description. (as if they had a conscience)

conscience: ability or faculty that distinguishes whether one's actions are right or wrong.

@ gus

Get a grip there gus...your percentages includes a provincial only party with over 50 seats. How can you even think about considering the Bloc vote as part of any Election percentages. Make them run candidates across the country and then they can be treated as a National Party and collect the funds legitimately for Elections. All they have done is scam CANADA for years and they now think they have the right to become the third stooge in the Coalition. What a joke...these idiots Dion(the non- English speaking wanabe PM), Layton, the loser who won nothing and Duceppe and turning this country into a joke. And we have the nerve to criticize George Bush. He's a genius compared to these three clowns.

Herbster, nice call on Nexen...deal does not go through Nexen crushed. Don't trust the French

Ammonra, the cons didn't sign an agreement with the bloc, the Dippers did. See the differnce? likely not. Jack laytons 15 minutes of fame will soon be up and the NDP will still irrelivant.

Nice call on Nexen Herbster. Thanks for "rocking my small world". Heres a tip for your "small" world...don't eat yellow snow.

Hey, did I say it was going to happen today? children and Conservatives, both easily distracted from the big picture...give one a bauble or trinket, mention Gilles Duceppe to the other.