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Harper Does Not Tip His Hand

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Wednesday, December 03, 2008 04:10 PM

Prince George, B.C.- Prime Minister Stephen Harper has taken to the airwaves to address the Nation.
Harper made it clear, that the coalition ( the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc ) is a threat to confederation and a threat to the economy. He did not say if he will request a recess, (prorogue Parliament) until the Conservatives can return with a new budget. That budget date was to be on the 27th of January. 
In his address, Harper said his government is dealing with the economic crisis, and will deliver a budget next month that will present more efforts than those already covered in the economic statement delivered last week by the Finance Minister.
“This is no time for backroom deal with separatists, it is a time to focus on the economy.”
He said the Government will do everything it can to protect Canada.
The Prime Minister is expected to meet with the Governor General tomorrow, and which time he is expected to ask for Parliament to be prorogued.
In reaction to the Prime Minister's speech, Stephane Dion's address  notes how he has written to the Governor General  asking that she not prorogue Parliament until after the non confidence motion on Monday.  His speech  centres on the  economy and the hardship  being felt by Canadian families. 

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ROFLMAO!! Like Dion even cares about the hardships of the Canadian people!! If he did these election losers (oposition) would be doing everything they could to help Harper (the winner) run government. Instead they take any oportunity to sit themselve in the big chair againts the wishes of the voters. We were dragged to the polls twice and we voted in HARPER twice. GET OVER IT ALREADY!!
Shellshadow
"dragged to the polls twice" the 2nd time was because Mr. Harper wanted to be there and believed he would have a majority but failed to do so and acted as if he had a majority anyways that is why we are in this "crisis" as people keep calling it.
This coalition of 3 partys is what Mr. Harper tried to set up in 2004 but failed to do. A person should always becareful of what you try to do because sometimes it comes back & bites you.
PS you must live in Alberta as that is the only way you could have voted for Mr. Harper or are you saying that the people in the PG/Caribou/Peace River area would vote for a "Dead Dog" as long as it wore a Harper Conservative sign. That doesn't say much for our Elected MPs
Life is good Life is fun
shell shadow,
well said,seems like they will never get over it.dions own caucus wanted to throw him out only a couple of weeks ago.
There are only two parties to the coalition, the Liberals and the NDP. The Bloc is not part of it. The Bloc has merely agreed not to vote against the coalition in a confidence motion for 18 months, that is all. Their position otherwise is exactly the same as it is now.

Harpers reference to a three party coalition is simply muddying of the waters in order to get people to believe something that is not true.
Get all these guys as far away from government as soon as possible!! I have no faith in Harper with that useless speach..Terrible acting, it wasnt from his heart as well, no passion or compassion for this country. And then on the otherside you got those other scum bags that have no respect for democracy not to mention supporting sepratist intersts. In elections these days its like trying to decide the difference between vomit and poop! There is no use for both of them unless your throwing it at a politician. Sincerly.. Frustrated Canadian..
"There are only two parties to the coalition, the Liberals and the NDP. The Bloc is not part of it."

Are you math challenged Ammon?

Seats:
Cons - 143
Lib. - 77
NDP - 37
Bloc - 49

How do you figure in your wildest dreams that the Bloc isn't part of the coalition?

Does 77+37 equal more than 143? What am I missing?

majority rules. If Mr. Harper is smart he will reconise that fact. I suspect that a coalition between the liberal ndp and the bloc will not last long.
Ammonra says "The Bloc has merely agreed not to vote against the coalition in a confidence motion for 18 months, that is all."

Oh "merely agreed" - THAT IS ALL?
Wow- thank you for making me feel better about this. Its nice to know that a party who vows to split up the country will only agree with the two losers for 18 months. They couldnt possibly screw our country up in that short a time...
The Liberals, NDP and the Block have no cohesive game plan to run the country. They think we should give them our support. Based on what? Their reputation? Their behavior? Their track record? Their game plan? Their humble and respectful behavior? I think not! They are not a serious alternative to consider.

All of them have been elected, hired and paid to manage this great country of Canada. My advice is this, get along, get back to work, or get fired. One way or another, you will do as you have been hired to do, so shape up or ship out.
A coalition is a formal arrangement to act as a single party. The Bloc has not agreed to do that, so they are not part of the coalition. Look the word up in a dictionary if you don't understand plain English, MrPG.

Merely, interceprtor, in contrast to signing an agreement to act as a single party. Keep it in context. The only people talking about splitting up the country at the moment are Harper and his Conservative clones, and the Alberta separatist (in the singular). The Bloc is not mentioning it. Do keep abreast of the situation and get your facts straight.
Nice avoidance of my question and spin, ammonra. You might have a future career in politics ahead of you!

Even you can't believe half of the stuff you spew out...
Did anyone see Harper on T.V.? It looked as if he had just finished crying1
Dion, yea well they couldn't even get his video set up right and he wants to run the country!
I don't think Dion is capable of running the country, but he has some well experienced people in the background, so he would probably just be a puppet leader. The only reason we're in as good a shape as we are today, is because of Paul Martin's years as finance minister. And the Liberal party, with all their infinite wisdom, threw him overboard.

The Conservatives inherited a 12 billion dollar surplus, it didn't take them long to squander that with tax cuts which were miniscule for the ordinary person. During the election campaign they insisted that Canada was in such good shape, that we'd never suffer a recession. They were secretly hoping that the election would be over and they'd have a majority, before the financial crisis hit us, so we'd never know the difference.
It turns out Stephen Harper has a sensitive side after all. He cries when he is about to lose power.
MR PG ...

you said
Are you math challenged Ammon?

Seats:
Cons - 143
Lib. - 77
NDP - 37
Bloc - 49

How do you figure in your wildest dreams that the Bloc isn't part of the coalition?

Does 77+37 equal more than 143? What am I missing?
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Let us assume you have a group of 12 that runs a facility. There are 4 factions, none of which has a majority to move on running the facility on a daily basis. The faction of 5 thinks they are in a majority, but they need 2 more votes to give them that majority.

One faction of 3 and another of 2 decide they will join forces and agree that one from each group will make the decisions on a daily basis. In other words, they will jointly make decisions. They write an agreement and sign it. They have just formed a coalition.

That coalition does not have enough votes.

So, the same as the faction of 5, they need the support of the other faction of 2. Instead of becoming part of the coalition, the faction of 2 decides it will back up the coalition for a limited period of time, unfettered. They will, however, not be part of the coalition.

The faction of 5 has not approached any one of the other factions to try to manage the facility. They could have. They had a choice of three to go to to give them that majority. They did not need to form a coalition with them. They just needed an agreement that they would get their votes for a limited period of time. No other conditions.

What about this scenario is so difficult to understand? It happens more often in all walks of life than you might realize.
"What about this scenario is so difficult to understand? It happens more often in all walks of life than you might realize."

I understand it all too well. I posted that to challenge ammonra's constant assertions that the Bloc is not part of the proposed coalition.

Here's a question for you, how is any government supposed to be effective in this scenario?
"Here's a question for you, how is any government supposed to be effective in this scenario?"

By taking into account the wishes of another group of MPs, and reaching compromises so both the government and another party can vote in favour.
And you can't do that without bending over backwards for the Bloc. Thank you for making my point.
Or the Liberals, or the NDP, or both!

Compromise, compromise, compromise!
At least you're now recognizing that the Bloc is part of the coalition. That's a start.