The blue wall of lies will continue. One more RCMP officer's notes that will mirror the previous 3 testifying officer's notes yet do not reflect the actual happening shown on the video recording. It is no wonder the RCMP tried to suppress the recording and only court action resulted in it's release. Given the differences in the notes of the attending officers and the actual recorded events can anyone now believe the testimony of any officer given in a court of law. These 4 officers have tainted the whole of the RCMP.
Elliot's comments on the weekend only confirmed the RCMP intent on trying to whitewash this inquiry. Elliot has certainly not inspired public confidence in the honesty or integrity of the force in general.

Elliot is a token put in place to shut the public up over the demand for civilian oversight.
The RCMP pay no attention to him whatsoever.
He is a joke and waste of taxpayers money.
Fire him.
Elliot is not part of the solution,he is part of the problem, and serves no purpose.

It is my experience that the majority of the members of the RCMP are very good at deflecting the negative truths away from themselves. These four officers are but a small drop in the bucket of the many enforcement officers that have been trained to be less than truthful in their documentation and communication.
The whole law enforcement infrastructure needs to change if we want to make sure that the three words honesty, integrity and respect get re-injected back into our law enforcement group. If it is determined that there will be a change like this in the works, no persons who have ever been afiliated with the RCMP should be included or even considered for any position in the future police force change, all it takes is one bad apple to contaminate the rest.
A lot of people believe that a civilian review panel is all that is needed to fix the problem with our law enforcement group in today's world.
Personally, I do not see this happening with a civilian review panel alone. I believe that we need to completely replace the RCMP with a private or provincial police force and include an independent review panel of civilians that will over see the conduct of the newly indoctrinated police force.
Also the screening methods need to change significantly in regards to the selection process. Any person who is to become a police officer needs be put through an extensive psychiatric evaluation to determine their inherent characteristics rather than the characteristics they want us to see. The selected officers also need to be put through several scenarios of the most extreme situations they could possibly face to determine how they will react, rather than how they are taught to react. Teaching people how to react is a good thing and over time these teachings can become habit, but, when the going gets tough people fall back on their true being and old habits, rather than what they are taught. This means that if lying, cheating, stealing or purposefully hurting others has worked for them in the past this is what they will fall back on in extreme trying times. We will need to be very guarded in the officer selection process and make sure that the people that could be selected are the right choices rather than just filling a hole because you are Japanese, Chinese or Native.

Elliott has had so much time and so many opportunities to come clean, and instead he continues to circle the waggons - the blue wall of lies mentioned above.

IF the RCMP were an organization with a majority of members oriented to 'serve and protect', THEN you could reasonably expect that majority to support serious discipline for the four goons and bullies and maybe even the various dissemblers and liars up the line such as Elliott himself, who have brought the entire RCMP into such disrepute and shame.

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that he is afraid of offending a majority of Mounties who ARE goons and bullies and dissemblers and liars - QED.

If I flew to Poland and ended up confused because I didn't speak the language, the last thing I would do is start throwing chairs and staplers if 4 dudes carrying guns and wearing pretty official looking uniforms showed up and ask me if I had a passport.The cops did thier job....serve and protect.

Windigo, there is a lot of scenerio based training that is done in Regina at Depot.
Unfortunately, what I see as a big problem is the fact that the RCMP is suffering from a lack of numbers. This has led to a recuiting drive where "kids" just out of high school are being hired. No life experience, no developed people skills.
Admittingly, scenerio based training at Regina is kind of a controlled way of seeing how a future cop on the street may react, but right now its all they have to go on.

With the baby boomers getting ready to retire, the RCMP will be even more strapped for bodies. Nowadays, you have inexperienced officers acting as field coaches for the new ones comming out of Regina.

I don't know how many years the corporal who was on the stand has, but even now the RCMP is so strapped for experience, they are now promoting 5-6 yr. constables into the corporals rank. To me, this is complete lunacy. One needs at least 10 yrs on the job to develop the skills (on the street and within the RCMP organisation) to become promotable.

So what does this all mean? It means that you have babies training babies. A good recipie for an implosion.

Ok,I think The_grandinquisitor is probably right....to a point.
They ARE training kids without a doubt, and that needs to be fixed, because it is killing the RCMP and as much as I hate to say it,probably some civilians too.
But how do you defend what is taking place right now at this inquiry?
All four RCMP members have disgraced themselves and the force, but they are probably going to get away with it and still be cops.
Robinson does not strike me as being particularly bright and obviously he really doesn't care about the law, as long as he can save his sorry ass...and that would include killing someone after drinking and driving 5 months ago.
For which by the way,he has not yet been charged.
If that was a civilian he sure as hell would have been charged by now!
It seemes Robinson's testimony today came pretty close hanging his fellow members out to dry and that tells me this guy cannot be trusted...even by his fellow officers.
So why is he a cop?
And we are expected to trust these guys?
Who screwed up and let him and other loose cannon like him in?
Were they so desparate that they ignored the signs that they probably should have seen?
There was a time not so long ago when none of these guys would have got past the first interview.
Or in Robinsons case being first nations, was an exception made simply to fill a quota?(that is a valid question,not a racist remark)
Again,I think Grandinquisitor is being straight up as far as where the mistakes are being made but the question remains,why do they keep this trash on the force?... and what will they do to fix the problem?
Where do we go from here after so much damage has been done, and so much disrespect and animosity is smearing the good cops?

Yes "serve and protect", that included Dziekanski.
Cobrasnake would have you believe that a plastic stapler is a lethal weapon. Can't you just see those staples flying, oh! two or three feet out of it, very, very dangerous. Throwing chairs and staplers around, did you ever watch the video, Oh I suppose it has been enhanced to "serve and protect".

The Dziekanski case is now about
the credibility of Canadian justice
system to deal with the murder of a Polish citizen by RCMP on Canadian soil and the world is watching it.

The Officer who tasered the guy 5 times should have known that tasering 5 times is lethal and he should be fired, and the rest to face discipline for preventing
aid to reach the guy. If someone has murdered an RCMP officer, he would have faced a 25 years jail. Justice should be blind, so stop justifying it.

After this murder, Polish citizens don't need to get visa to enter Canada. The Harper government should also compensate the mother of Robert and act responsibly towards the murder of Robert. Canada does not need to be labeled neo-Nazi because of this, there are enough neo-Nazi tugs being allowed to demonstrate and clash in Calgary.

This will definitely hurt the conservative's vote among immigrants in the next election, if Harper does not
act. The conservatives have been accused of racism and anti-immigrant in the past.

There is a lot of truth to what TGI says, but it is not the underlying problem in this case.

There is a subculture of machismo, superiority, being above the law, being unaccountable, being above reproach, and unabridled heavy-handedness only for the simple sake of gratifying the person's own natural desire to be "a force to be feared". "I want to come in and smash down anybody that dares to defy me, or dares not to immediately comply with my demands".

Sadly, it is a page right out of every bike gang's manual of operations.

There needs to be wholesale changes made to the underlying RCMP subculture, not to mention the subculture of policing in general.

Also remember, this in an international incident. The whole world is watching, they really are.

This is not a simple case of Robbie D from Vanny gets tazered by the cops and dies.

Corporal Benjamin Robertson should be behind bars for drunk driving and murdering a Canadian motocyclist last October. RCMP is turning into a farce by protecting him and keeping him in the force.

If Canadian justice was blind and have implemented the law and put him behind bars for the murder of Robert Dz. earlier, perhaps now the dead motorcyclist from Delta, Orion Hutchinson, 21 was alive.