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Can we save Canada?

By Jack deWit

Sunday, December 04, 2005 03:30 AM

With a federal election now interfering with the Christmas holidays (notice the political correctness; it is Christmas and not the Holiday season), can we expect some surprises in politics as we do on gift opening on Christmas morning?

The opposition parties very strategically planned the timing for a non-confidence vote in the House of Commons. Furthermore, it may be the largest mistake PM Martin has made in his political career, for not agreeing with the opposition to delay the election until later into spring. In the five previous winter elections the governing party has been tossed out of office. What is so different this time that would not see history repeat itself? The attitude of Canadians towards politicians and the depression that comes with enduring long winters makes voters an unpredictable lot. Maybe it is the weather that encourages one to sit next to the fireplace rather than go out and vote. If the latter is a key component in this election, it only proves that a small percentage of Canadians control how we are governed. It may be sad, but factual, because under good conditions we are lucky to see 60% of the electorate actually go to the polls.

The blatant dishonesty and unaccountability of many politicians, is in all probability, the major reason the electorate is an unwilling partner on election day. There are serious federal policies and programs that infuriate a huge number of citizens. The continuing debate over native rights, the Quebec conundrum, the bilingual policies, the lack of equal representation by the provinces, the inequity in transfer payments, the immigration policies, the total lack of economic wisdom, the loss of Canadian culture (believe it or not there really was one), the divisive Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and a host of other federal policies have disinterested the public. The list has been endless for decades and is getting longer rather than shorter.

There is an old saying, “You can’t please all of the people all of the time, but you can please most of the people most of the time”. Politicians must be honest, devoted, and represent their constituents, even if it means being not being “politically correct” or controversial at times. Only a coward submits to the political correctness theory.

So when will an election ever change the way Canadians are governed? The resolution, if there is one, is to develop a common incentive to maintain Canada as a confederation of provinces. Unfortunately, with our regional cultural diversity, reality dictates finding such unity is next to impossible. When Canada came into being there were basically two cultures; the French and the English. Since then the federal government has opened its doors to practically any person who wished to settle here. Now we have such a mix of global cultures that the bonding element in confederation is lost. It may sound racist but, in my opinion, many new citizens are more interested in preserving their own culture within Canada than becoming part of the Canadian culture. They have the right you say; so do the founders of this great country! There are many, who after years in this country, still cannot speak English or French fluently at a conversational level. There are those who think that Canada should not be a melting pot. Well just maybe that is why we, and many other countries, are subjected to “culture shock” that is creating an unwelcome environment. Just check out the European countries that are experiencing immigration related dissent.

If our government cannot keep this country together it must then explore an alternative solution would be to split into smaller, more manageable states. It would be more sensible to go through such a peaceful transition than to continue on as is until the animosity results in a revolution.

There are many who may think this writer is total insane, but I challenge those who are quick to criticize to analyze the pros and cons of converting Canada into more geographically and culturally responsible regions. It is a viable option. Economically each territory would be more responsible for developing policies that would be beneficial to its peoples. The reimbursement from resources would remain within its boundaries. The language debate would be much easier to administer reaping huge savings in most states. Trade agreements, and disagreements, could be negotiated with the involvement of those directly concerned with the products. Examples here may include: the softwood dispute, the west coast fisheries, the control of exported energy resources, and perhaps the most controversial issue would be the outsourcing of jobs.

The Bloc has been very successful in getting Ottawa’s attention. They have instituted many policies that don’t fit into confederation, but benefit those in Quebec. What is more, this has assisted Quebec in being acknowledged by Ottawa and benefiting from federal resources.

What we lack in western Canada is a strong organization that is willing to coordinate and negotiate the options of encouraging an independent western union. Such an alliance of western support may very well result in Ottawa becoming more understanding to all the regions of Canada. Providing legislation that would reflect and respect Canada’s founder’s history could become part of the uniting bond. Just perhaps we could force the hand of hackneyed federal politicians to find some common ground that all Canadians could justify as a reason to maintain our present confederation.

The one positive, if there are any good aspects to this election, is that we all have almost two months to debate and think of the issues that may persuade us to get out on a cold January day and cast our ballot.

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IMO first thing to recognize is that Canada is sick at a political level. The obvious sign is the sepratist party majorty in Quebec.

Canada does have some good things going for it like the fact our provinces hold the right to their resources unlike American states.

The biggest problem is that the country at a federal level is designed to empower Ontario and Quebec at the expense of all others. This calls for a citizens assembly do democratize the country in a way that respects regional diversity and independence in some kind of win-win way for everyone involved.

This will never happen with the liberals and their multinational handlers running the country. They will use fear and every tool of the federal government to will their way onto the Canadian people retaining a hold on power through manufactured splits that demonize fellow Canadians ussually the white male that speaks english. ,;-)

IMO the solution is for everyone to write letters with the moral authority of a fellow Canadian citizen expressing concern at the current use of the 'scary hypothetical' card in politics that is underlined with a discrimination against the 'West' as the big evil used to manipulate the Central and Eastern Canadian voters into voting for liberals rather than the n.d.p. or conservative.

I find it offensive everytime I hear Paul Martin bring up the demonization theme because I know who its directed at.

I would suggest letter to the editor of papers in Atlantic Canada and Ontario would be the most effective way of participating in this election. We have to do an end run around Martin's demonization campaign for the good of Canada. I think the key would be to not bring up controversial issues and use shame on the country as the theme contrasted with Canada's historical role as liberators of the colonial politic mentality. lol

Time Will Tell
Can we save Canada....from the politicians?

They are all primarily looking after their own interests while trying to convince us simultaneously that the good of the country is their one and only prime motivation.

Duh!

If that was the case they would have formed what is known as a Grand Coalition and run the country with all the best unselfish ideas put together in one pot!

We will most likely and up with another unstable and impotent minority government, perhaps this time the NDP propping up the Conservatives as its latest bed partner! Is it any wonder the voters are displaying cynicism and apathy by staying away from the polls?
We shouldnt be making excuses for Canadians who are to lazy or self absorbed to take an interest in politics. If they do not go out and vote it is them not the Politicians who are at fault. In the end they will get the type of Government they deserve.
I dont expect politicians in this country to do much until Quebec wins a referendum, then they will sit up and take notice, however at that point it will be to late, because the next step by Quebec will be to declare an Independent and Sovereign Country.At that
point Western Independence becomes a reality.

We will then have to deterimine how the **New Canada** will look.

Will it be made up of the Western Provinces from Ontario to BC along with the NWT and the Yukon. What will happen to the Eastern Provinces, will they join Quecbec, or Remain in the New Canada, or look to the U.S.A.

Now that Newfoundland has oil you can rest assured that they will have some clout as to what they will do. NB and PEI is another story.

Quebec Independence will give us all a opportunity to re define ourselves. I suspect we will have a Western Canada that is English Speaking, and with a culture that reflects its make up.

Bilingualism and Multiculturism will be dead. We would set up a fair trading system with Quebec and would need a Passport if we wanted to go to Montreal.

This scenario is within the realm of possibility and is not all bad. I do not think it would be a bad idea to give Quecbec want it wants, because it will give us what we want. Freedom from the Politicians who play both ends against the middle for political gain. Under this scenario Paul Martin, and his other Cohorts from Quebec would have to make a decision to remain in Quebec as citizens of this New Country, or move West to become citizens of the **New Western Canada**.
>We shouldnt be making excuses for Canadians who are too lazy or self absorbed to take an interest in politics.<

My comment:

True, there are those, alright, but there are plenty who are informed and still decide that voting is a waste of time!

It is the antics of the politicians that turn many people off, including me.

I once wrote two very respectful letters to my MP Mr. Jay Hill and NEVER even got an answer!
He is obviously too secure in his seat to worry about a small thing like giving a constituent the common courtesy of a reply!

Quebec separation requires consent from the Native Nations whose territories would be affected. They have already indicated that they will resist any attempts to split them off from Canada. It would be a messy battle, and the USA doesn't want France to march in and annex Quebec, lock, stock and barrel.

The separation threat has been a goldmine for Quebec, and who wants to give up such a wonderful money maker?
I always find the Western view Canada quite amusing.

At least Quebec has a culture of its own which they have been able to very successfully nurture and are trying to protect. They are willing to do so by separating even though they will no longer get handouts from the rest of Canada.

The West in Canada has no unique culture to speak of to protect. They are made up primarily of European immigrants and Eastern Canadian migrants. All they are trying to protect is the money the oil which some of them sit on produces for them. Even that is primarily located in Alberta.

Their culture? The epitome of the "me" generation.

As far as I am concerned I live in BC and I do not like to take on solutions to issues we really do not have here, at least not to the extent Alberta may have them. I think anyone who believes that a western union of BC and the prairie provinces would reduce the “problems” we have is a dreamer. In fact, it may make them worse since, in the scheme of things, they may be relatively larger in comparison.

As a Northerner, I also think that the issues we have with the North/South split in this province are far greater than the East/West split in the country. We are not getting some of the services here more because of provincial policies than federal policies.

I think Cascadia makes much more sense as a long term goal.

http://www.altacolumbia.com/pages/autonomy.html

http://zapatopi.net/cascadia

http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/cascadia
Here we go again with another costly election. But, what are the costs, if we allow the existing performance of our respected Members of Parliament to continue?

What we are doing hasn't been working very well. If we are disappointed with the current results, we need to make some changes.

I'm sure everyone remembers the definition of insanity? Doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

So, we have two choices. Change the people, or change what they do? Very simple.

Now, the difficult part is to determine what actually needs to be done? This is where the confusion comes in.

I definitely don't have all the answers, but I have some opinions about what I perceive doesn't work.

Separatism doesn't work. One can't expect to have everyone support you when your needs and wants are the only ones that count. Especially at the expense of others.

Bilingualism doesn't work, in Quebec or BC. Why is it that our own University hasn't offered French for the past 10 years? So much for the push for French Immersion in our community. Nothing wrong with French, but just who was this supposed to benefit?

Mulitculturalism doesn't work and isn't necessary. If you want to spend your time in a kilt and playing the bagpipes, go for it. We don't need a government agency to provide $$$$ to make sure it happens.

If you want to tan mucklucks and chew birchbark the rest of your life, great, But not at the expense of the taxpayers.

I don't expect the Ukranian's, the Chinese, the Portugese, the German's, the Mexican's, the Japanese, the East Indian or the Sihk community's to have our tax dollars dished out to support their culture.

Let each ethnic community support itself with the support they can generate themselves through their own members.

Special rules and deals for special interest groups just erodes the rights of everyone else who doesn't belong to one of them.

Corruption, deception, collusion, connivance and outright criminal activity should not be tolerated. Immediate removal from their positions should be the norm.

Ethics, integrity, honesty and the highest of values should be the cornerstone for a position in leadership and authority of our country.

Unity with diversity. We are different, very different. That is what makes Canada such a great country. Where we can all live together, retain our cultures, enjoy and share in the surplus of resources this country has to provide. All we need to do is get along and do a better job of stewardship of all that we are responsible for.

Why is this so difficult? I have often sensed greed, pride, attitude, power and control dominate our politics.

It appears to be just a game most of the time. Just watch the charade in our Houses of Parliament. They can do so much, but they accomplish so little.

Years go by just to increase the penalty for drunk drivers who kill innocent people. And it's still not done. Why?

Innocent people are killed while insurance companies and their lawyers fight to protect the corporations and the guilty at the expense of the victims.

Vandelism is rampant in our city, while our appointed judges seem more concerned about the rights of the vandals than their victims. Why can't all of these people be put to work at hard labour for the good of the people they affected and the communities they destroyed?

So, yes, we need an election as soon as possible. Waiting only allows more lies, more money spent, more criticism of each other, more hard feelings, more confusion, more guilt, more fear mongering etc. etc. In the end, most people are so frustrated, discouraged, fed up at the whole process, they either give up or have become so fearful of any type of change, they vote back in the same old boys.

If anyone knows how to change human behavior, their may be a few party's who are interested in your gifts.
Chester
"People who are engaged in political life must necessarily aim at reducing opposition to a minimum, and one of the most obvious means to that end is by misrepresenting, discrediting or ruining their opponents."

" Men play at being God, but lacking God's experience they wind up as politicians."
IMO the authority of government comes from the people. The government that can best claim to represent the will of the people is the level of government that has the highest natural authority.

Therefore the best protection for BC against a central government ruling in the interest of the Central Canadian majority is for BC to have a more representative governemnt of the people. This can be achieved with electoral reform such as the BC-STV as a good start in that direction. The BC STV is not the final solution though as it does not address the regional inequities so much as it adresses the philosophical inequities.

People that want an independent BC need to support democracy at home as the first step. this means being organized to support the BC-STV system in three years time.

With the new BC-STV system a representative government can lead the way in BC's fight for equality in an elected Canadian Senate and further reforms with or without Canada that will ensure future generations of British Columbians are free and independent people in establishing their own destiny.

Time Will Tell
Owl you should learn your BC history. Also I see you refer to the people of BC as 'them' with 'their' crazy notions. An Eastern Canadian transplant I see.

Facts are BC does have a unique history independent of the Canadian history prior to 1872.

BC's history only became intangled in the Canadian history after Sir John A MacDonald had BC governor Fredrick Seymour assassinated with poison for refusing to join Canada. MacDonald then had the British Colonial Office appoint his good friend Anthony Musgrave as the replacement governor of BC with orders to buy off BC's elected representatives in order to bring BC into Confederation at all costs.

Musgrave ruled out a referendum of the people and hand picked the delegates that went to Ottawa to negotiate BC's terms for joining the union, and ensure that any final position would be to the benefit of the British elite back in BC as well as his political master in Ottawa.

BC did have a unique history prior to 1872, and has a unique culture to this day. BC's natives were the only aboriginal culture in all of North America to have a written language to name but one example. Furthermore I would argue that BC's culture is as distinct to the people of BC as Quebec's is to Quebec, or any other region of Canada for that matter. The fact that english is our common language does not mean the people of BC do not have a culture of our own.

Furthermore BC independence is not about hording resources, although that is a legitimate right. Its about having a right to belong to the political process and participate in government rather then to be restricted by racist policies that discriminate against BC citizens participating in government, and the ability for British Columbians to have their democratic will reflected in government policies that shape our society rather than having other peoples culture imposed on us with our tax dollars. Its about having the right to say we will share resources to help our federal Canadians, but to say no when that help is being abused.

I am a British Columbian first, and my roots trace back far in both Canada and BC, but that does not mean in the end a rational and objective government in Canada has to be excluded if they were to respect the rights of a confederation of independent equals as was sold to BC when this province first joined the union.

The time of the Quebec-Ontario majority running this country for their own selfish needs should end.

Time Will Tell
The Single Transferrable Vote System has a flaw that I personally can not endorse: My vote (the vote that I cast for a specific candidate) may end up going to a person who I do not support. Do you have a solution that does not allow this to happen?

In respect to the Cascadia idea (joining the western provinces with the north-western states of the US of A) I would say that it would have been a good idea economically (not politically, of course) before Mulroney enslaved us with the NAFTA agreement. Now the integration of Canada into the USA is so far advanced that it can never be undone.

We are being absorbed not by political choice but by US dominated corporate interests. The softwood lumber dispute is a good example: the economic interests in the USA have enough clout to simply ignore NAFTA and the WTO.

The NAFTA amalgamation is occurring under the terms of the big bully.

NAFTA works well for the USA and its long range goals. Mulroney is enjoying his rewards by sitting on the board of directors of dozens of large US corporations and banks.

Not everyone agrees with the principle of pre-emptive warfare as being morally, ethically and legally sound. Canadians may have to be polled in a referendum as to their willingness to participate in any such ventures of international warfare as
Iraq, with the prospect of Iran and Syria being next.

Before any such block as Cascadia could be formed one has to examine all the ramifications, including the obligation to participate in a different foreign policy that is basically alien to Canadian culture and values.
Diplomat, can you explain how your vote would not be counted for who you voted for in the BC-STV system. I can not see how that would happen.

Your preference of vote would go in the order in which you selected. This impowers you to bypass the political parties and vote only for the candidates that you like in order of preference, which may not be the political parties first choice of candidate.

The only way I can see that your selection would not go to your prefered candidate is if that candidate was dead last on the first ballot (therefore not elected anyways) and that last place candidate is eliminated with your second choice becoming your first choice. At least in this case your vote still counts, it just counts for your next choice of the remaining viable candidates.

I have no idea how you can say your vote would not count. To say that your vote would go to someone you do not support makes no sense to me.
I support Cascadia with our old Hudson Bay Company friends to the south.

I think we share the same values as our neighbors in Washington State and Oregon and population wise we would be a well balanced country. Their issues with their federal government are not all that different then ours.

Time Will Tell
Change. YES....but the only way we will get it is out of the barrel of a Rifle..I will duck Now as I can see the *** flying towards me.
Chadermando, thank you for your explanations. I should have mentioned that I always vote for a candidate who represents a political party the platform of which I can support. The candidate has to be to my liking as a person, of course.
If the party of my choice fields a candicate I do not support I will not vote for him/the party. I do not have any second choice candidate or party. The present system has always served me very well. The winner wins and the loser is out of luck. He can try again the next time. Representation arrived at by mathematics is not my cup of tea.

Thanks again for your response!
Chadermando:
"I think we share the same values as our neighbors in Washington State and Oregon and population wise we would be a well balanced country. Their issues with their federal government are not all that different then ours."

That is your opinion. My opinion is very different. Of course Americans and Canadians share many basic human values, but politically we couldn't be any more different then we already are. The policies of their federal government and those of ours are...well, like oil and water.

Enough said.