Vehicle Fire at 2733 Lillooet Street (with video)

At around midnight, Friday, November 6, 2009, a minivan caught fire while in the driveway at 2733 Lillooet Street.

The vehicle was completely engulfed in flames when fire crews arrived to extinguish the blaze. It appears no one was injured by the fire. It is not known at this time how the fire started.

To see video, click the link below:

http://thepulse.ca/node/2724

Morning All,

Kudos to the jail guard for speaking up about the condition of the cells at the detachment - though one has to wonder how long he will stay in employment with the city after his comments.

Anyone heard of "mypg"? Just wondering if this is another one of these committees that end of costing taxpayers a whole bunch of money? Check out their website @ www.mypg.ca
We seem to have a ton of these kind of initiatives and committees. How many more can we possibly need?

Kinda interesting, we get a new mayor who's only real background is talking on the radio, then talking on city council, never having a buisness related job.

Does it suprise anybody that we now have an air car ambassador, an idle free ambassador and a highly overpaid communications manager?

All he knows how to do is talk, and in his world talking has solved all his problems. So I guess the best thing for us to do is talk until the next election?

an exellent post in the "Gentlemen (and Ladies) Cut Your Engines" thread by Palopu.

He estimates the amount of cost to the citizens of Prince George by having the Cameron Street Bridge closed for 4 years. He makes some crazy good points (I presume he is a he, if not I appologize)

By his estimates there was an extra 2.5 million gallons of fuel burnt over that 4 year period costing you and I an estimated 10 million dollars. To go with that what is the carbon footprint of that extra fuel burnt?

I suggest you read his comments and estimates, I doubted his math, did my own and suprisingly came up with a higher amount. You be the judge.

http://www.opinion250.com/blog/view/14500/1/gentlemen+%28and+ladies%29+cut+your+engines?id=143&st=10

@whatintheheck

MyPG is the Integrated Community Sustainability Plan process. It's happening in conjunction with the Official Community Plan review, and comes with a big price tag - about $450,000 I think.

ICSPs are now required for all municipalities and without them in place (in a certain amount of time) government funding gets cut.
So before you all go flying off the handle about the costs you'll at least have the facts.

can anybody answer this question.

The Idle Fairy map has singled out Timmies on Massey Drive.

How come no mention of all the other Tim Hortons locations? The map now has 8 complaints about that location and not one at any other location.

Is this not a classic example of piling on? Is that location the slowest, the busiest?

Nope, its the cant think for themselves people who have followed that link and said, oh yeah, I have seen a vehicle sitting there, Im going to click on that link as well.

To me it takes all the credability out of the project.

Hospital name change.

According to the Minister of Health, the name change reflects the Hospital’s changing role as it has become the main teaching site for UNBC’s Northern Medical Program.

How much will this name change cost? Did someone get a bonus for this.? Were not doctors nurses and other staff always being trained there. I was attended to by doctors in training before there was a program at UNBC. Considering the whole operation of the hospital, what percentage entails teaching. What medical equipment could have been bought for the cost of this name change?

What a wast of money by the puffed up chest crowd.

The road to hell really is paved with good intentions. Has anyone noticed how virtually EVERYTHING that one might derive pleasure from is now a guilt trip? Eat a steak and you are an animal murderer. Drive a 1 ton truck you are killing the world. Build a house you killed trees. Dig a hole you are disturbing an ecosystem. Campfire? even my youngest kids are learning that campfires are wasteful and bad for the climate. Buy toys for your kids at christmas, you should have donated money to charity instead. Your cat had kittens, you ought to be ashamed. Made some extra money last year, you ought to donate it to poor people, or the SPCA ,or what have you. Eat a donut, you are going to be fat and burden society. Smoke a butt, you are evil plain and simple. Own a gun, you are the reason for all the shootings in vancouver (not to mention a total redneck). Wood stove heat? You have children? you know the rest. I know that in most of these cases the people dishing out guilt have good intentions (misguided as they may be) but tin the sum they point towards a life not worth living. People should not have to feel guilty for everything they do, especially since so many of the things listed are built into our genetic code.
Perhaps it seems selfish of me to want to do things that affect the environment, or kill animals but i am going to do most of them anyway. As for you folks eager to jump in and call me selfish i simply suggest that if you are not a hypocrite, and really want to help the world/your fellow man/ etc. then do so, to the extreme of your ability (ie you ought to be living like a pauper, working like a dervish and donating all your cash to various causes for a start) before you criticize me. Then, when you are a saint, have the decency to chide me in a polite, sensitive manner like Mother Teresa would.

caranmacil

my only advice for you:

screw em all!

When I was young I said I wanted to make my mark on the world, I guess I am finally doing that :-)

Well said caranmacil.

I've been doing a lot of night driving lately. What is it with all of those people that seem to think its foggy and drive with their foglights on all the time. They are a real pain in the....eyes. Especially all of the trucks and cars hauling trailers that are causing their lights to point upwards.

because it is cool like wearing a ball cap backwards or sideways, or wearing trousers several sizes to big so they hang down way low.

Ether that or they cannot figure out how to operate the switch to turn them off.

Stupidity or incompetence?

Bang on caranmacil!

YEAH!! I am not alone, thank you for the comments on the stupid, or arrogant, or uncaring selfish idiots who have their fog/driving lamps on when they should not.
I have seriously considered mounting some bright fog lights on my back bumper, I could light them up to counteract the fog lights on the vehicle behind me.
But I would not want to be the cause of an accident, and for that same reason I won't turn on MY front fog lamps to spite the idiots approaching in the oncoming lane.
Hey, I feel better already, thanks.
metalman.

Is city hall skulking around planning to make us pay more hard earned money for a recycling blue box program next spring? I take my cardboard and newspapers to the transfer station every few weeks. Must I soon pay the city to pick them up weekly in front of my house? On the same page, I asked a clerk at city hall if I could opt out of my garbage pickup. She waffled and said most likely I still would be charged about fifty bucks a year if I did. The amount of household garbage I produce can be delivered by me to the transfer station twice a month for four dollars per visit. That is substantially (to say the least)less than the city charges me to have it picked up. Freedom to opt out? Wouldn't that be a right under the Charter of Rights section concerning "Freedom of Association?" Or does the city have a law (written down somewhere) or a bylaw that says I have to pay for garbage pickup if I don't want it? If I surrendered my garbage can to city hall, and they still charged me for garbage pickup, could I charge the city with fraud or extortion? Being on a fixed income and with the wasteful spending of city hall being recognized by more taxes and fees, I just want it to stop.

Good post caranmacil.

With regard to "fog lamps": they are actually called driving lights & are designed as a supplement to low beam headlights & turn off automatically when the high beams go on. The light they throw likely travels less than 30'. I would suggest the problem has more to do with peoples night vision which is known to deteriorate with age.

Flame suit on!

People can offer up guilt trips all they want, but it's your decision whether or not you take the ride.

That all being said, there is some merit into re-thinking the whole idea of the 'me' generation. People seem far more selfish and inconsiderate nowadays. People don't seem to care how their behaviour might affect others. As a matter of fact, some people are inconsiderate to the point of rudeness. That's my frusteration.

Just read on CBC.ca that the Vancouver police are pushing the prostitutes in the downtown there out into surrounding neighbourhoods because of the Owelympics. Maybe PG can feel good now, knowing we are trend setters ahead of our time. Let us wait and see how the residences there react about that. Maybe we might larn sumthin'.

Harbinger...

I moved to a small size garbage can and the city charges me $118 per year. I calculate that to about $2.27 per week, or $9.00 a month. If you don't have much garbage try that. You say that you go to the transfer station about twice a month now, which would equal $8.00 per month. Not a substantial difference in cost there as you note above...

Im all for bashing the City, we just need to make sure we are bashing them for the right stuff.

Loki...

I like to wear my hat backwards, but I am neither stupid or incompetent. Thanks!

Garbage pickup. A guy (always the same one) rolls the overflowing (lid upright) garbage can to the curb. Two minutes later a couple of crows show up and drag bulging kitchen garbage bags out and into the street, where they rip them open.

Pieces of paper and other nasty stuff are flying all over the place.

Next: City garbage truck - decorated with expensive murals depicting that Over-Flow-itis is NOT (!) cool - pulls up and empties the offender's garbage can anyways!!!

Lesson: no matter how one ignores the simplest rules one will get away with it!

No consideration for the neighbours.

Oh, usually the wind eventually blows the junk on my lawn and on my driveway where I - a law abiding citizen - don my gloves and pick it up!

Another rule/law or bylaw created to be totally ignored by those who get paid to enforce it!

Nice going. Thanks!

I am under the impression that fog lights and driving lights are two different things.

Fog light are less than 55 watt and often amber and have a wider projection rather than longer. The idea being to have a colored light that does not glare back at the driver.

Driving light are higher powered (I have seen as high as 130 watt, normally 80 to 90 watt) narrow beam to project far ahead.

Then there are the "off-road" lights. High power wide beam to flood the close proximity and overcome the dirt on the lens.

No flames, just understanding.

Yeah, I'm talking about properly aimed, OEM driving lights NOT some Canadian Tire garbage bolted to the bumper of a lifted pos 4 x 4.
You never see amber lenses anymore.

If you have to wear a face shield or welding shield, one has little choice but to wear it backwards.

If you choose to emulate a socially marginalized and economically challenged group with a propensity for violence and crime, I would call that kind of stupid. Gangsta is the contemporary hip style. Such a shame that we cannot admire the buffets and Gates because it is so cool to wear apparel like a jacka$$.

Flame ON.

I'm talking about all of the extra lights that people have on the front of their vehicles. You can call them fog or driving lights or whatever you want to. Some of the lights aren't bad, but it seems that an awful lot of them are incorrectly aimed and cause a glare to oncoming drivers. I may be aging, but I don't see a glare from most headlights, just those 'auxilliary; I think it's foggy lights."

I read that if you see a "gangsta" wearing his pants down around his knees, you should pat him on the back and compliment him on his great weight loss.

What if you ARE a gansta? Or are we just talking about wiggers?
Anyone who dresses up like a cowboy should be slapped too. Trick or treating is over. Put away the costume.

Anyone wanna pass the plate & buy O250 an 'edit' feature???? Pics would be fun, too.

"Garbage pickup. A guy (always the same one) rolls the overflowing (lid upright) garbage can to the curb. Two minutes later a couple of crows show up and drag bulging kitchen garbage bags out and into the street, where they rip them open.

Pieces of paper and other nasty stuff are flying all over the place.

Next: City garbage truck - decorated with expensive murals depicting that Over-Flow-itis is NOT (!) cool - pulls up and empties the offender's garbage can anyways!!!

Lesson: no matter how one ignores the simplest rules one will get away with it!"

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I gotta agree. I've observed the same thing. Somebody should ask the City if they have ever not picked up somebody's garbage because it was overflowing. I really would like to hear the stats on that.

I would guess the number is really low, if not zero. But what would happen if somebody didn't get their garbage picked up? They'd probably illegally dump it somewhere... if we're lucky, it would be in one of those big green trash bins that you see everywhere. If not, it would be dumped down some logging road somewhere.

EatsBushes; Way back in the good old days sonny, it used to be illegal to not turn off your driving lights when following or opposing traffic. I realise that many vehicles arrive from the factory with these driving lights installed, but don't they have a switch? I find ( SOME ) factory driving lights TOO bright, whether the vehicle is laden, unladen, with or without a trailer, others I find acceptable. I have a car with factory driving lights, although I do not believe they are very bright, I do not switch them on when following or opposing traffic.
Courtesy rules!
metalman.

just wiggers EBS&L, I wear cowboy duds when i am being a cowbboy. Of course, cowboy wear is pretty functional, whereas i cant see how wearing your pants down around you ankles helps do crime...

Mr PG: 'it's up to you whether you take the ride'.....For now, brother. For now.

I have a theory. I believe that people who have there fog/auxiliary lights on in the city are actually advertising their physical inadequacy. Any takers.

Let's try and keep the racial slurs out of it. One cannot change ones ethnicity or origin. One can change one's own future.
Social marginalization, economic challenges and other disenfranchisement's are color blind.

I just think that members of society should admire and emulate those with success rather than those with little hope and little future.

I don't believe 'wigger' is actually considered a racial slur or I wouldn't have posted it. If I am wrong then I would ask that the editor remove my comment.

Back to driving lights. Have you guys tried flashing vehicles with bothersome lights? The driver may be unaware that the lights are that bright. As I said before, factory d/lights are meant to supplement LOW beams only.

Loki...Do you wear your hat backwards, So your lover has something to read as HE does you....Just wondering

Caran, baggy clothes hide more guns. Functionality at it's finest. What does your giant belt buckle do? ;-]

Not I, are you speaking from experience?
You must be a bottom.
Being as your wondering, are you asking for a date.

Surely you can do better than slinging orientation around.

Let's lighten up a tad. I received this from the Flatlands this morning. Apparently there is a lot of this going in Winterpeg

The Next Pandemic

I went to a dinner party last night, where I and other guests enjoyed copious amounts of alcohol.

I awoke this morning not feeling well, with what could be described as flu-like symptoms; headache, nausea, chills, sore eyes, etc.

From the results of some initial testing, I have unfortunately tested positive for what experts are now calling Wine Flu.

This debilitating condition is very serious - and it appears this is not an isolated case.

Reports are flooding in from all around the country of others diagnosed with Wine Flu. To anyone that starts to exhibit the aforementioned tell-tale signs, experts are recommending a cup of tea and a bit of a lie down.

However, should your condition worsen, you should immediately rent a DVD and take some Advil (Advil seems to be the only drug available that has been proven to help combat this unusual type of flu). Others are reporting a McDonald's Happy Meal can also help in some cases. If not, then further application of the original liquid, in similar quantities to the original dose, has been shown to do the trick.

Wine Flu does not need to be life threatening and, if treated early, can be eradicated within a 24-48 hour period.

Cheers!


NOTE
If you find you are complaining a lot, it may be that it has mutated into Whine Flu. This is particularly common in men and can quickly spread to their partners where the symptoms are detected as a serious case of eye-rolling.

The subject of driving lights, here is the law in BC:

B.C. - Auxiliary driving lamps
4.09 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 auxiliary driving lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle at a height of not less than 40 cm and not more than 1.06 m, that are capable of displaying only white light.
(2) An auxiliary driving lamp must be directed so that the high intensity portion of the beam is, at a distance of 8 m from the lamp, at least 12 cm below the height of the lamp and, at a distance of 25 m from the lamp, not higher than 1.06 m from the road surface.
(3) An auxiliary driving lamp must operate so that it is illuminated only when the upper beam of a multiple beam headlamp is illuminated.

Fog lamps
4.11 (1) A motor vehicle may be equipped with 2 fog lamps, mounted on the front of the vehicle below the headlamps, that are capable of displaying only white or amber light.

(2) Each fog lamp must be

(a) mounted not more than 30 cm below the headlamps, and

(b) adjusted and aimed so that, at a distance of 8 m from the lamp, the centre of the beam is at least 10 cm below the height of the fog lamp.

(3) The fog lamp wiring and switch must permit simultaneous operation of the parking lamps, tail lamps, licence plate lamp and, if required, clearance lamps.

(4) The operator of a vehicle may use fog lamps instead of headlamps when atmospheric conditions make the use of headlamps disadvantageous.

If you read that close, it says that your driving lights MUST be hooked up to your HIGH BEAMS. Using driving lights of any source on low beams in the Province of BC is Illegal. It doesnt matter if your vehicle came with them, they are still illegal to operate on low beam.

Good to know, Tom, although the info seems pretty dated. I guess the factory lights are considered fog lamps.

Thanks Stompin Tom. If I'm reading it correctly then, you can either run headlights OR foglights, but not both. The driving lights part makes total sense. My truck and every other gm must be wired wrong.

FWIW - I don't think a manufacturer can sell a vehicle that doesn't comply with local statutes. As anyone with a late model vehicle knows, the headlights come on automatically & the fogs ONLY work with the low beams on. That's why I think this info may be dated.

*blink...blink*

** rubs eyes **

Whoa! I am impressed! I have thoroughly enjoyed everyone's comments today. Respectful, civil... really nice to see.

Happy Friday :-D

here is a link for those regulations, dated october 9 2009

http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20m%20--/motor%20vehicle%20act%20%20rsbc%201996%20%20c.%20318/05_regulations/27_26_58%20motor%20vehicle%20act%20regulations/26_58_01.xml

Eatsbush,

You may assume that to be true, but it is not. Vehicles come into each state and province pretty much the same, if a local law such as this one is different in an area, it is up to the deal to make it correct, if you complain. No complaints, no repairs.

I had a run in with the CVSE a couple of years ago withregards to this exact thing, it went in front of the judge. He let me off, but stated that the law is clear, we just dont know it and the fine was inappropriate for the crime.

Eatsbush,

If the light is indeed labeled a fog light it is legal to run off low beams. My Denali has auxillary fog lights, I press the switch they come on with the lowbeams.

The law is with regards to aux driving lights, they must be wired to the high beams.

What ever, I find some of those lights are too bright. And I don't wear my cowboy hat backwards or my pants around the ankles either!
A nice week end to y'all.
metalman.

I am 52 years old. I always wear my seatbelt and always have. I have never been stopped for not wearing my seatbelt in the past. I have never had an vehicle accident or been in one. One day I was totally excited over having a business in town take 9 of my dream catchers that I make. My husband was driving and we come around a corner and there is a police man. I did not even think about my seatbelt until he said "Why don’t you have your seat belt on?" I looked down and OMG! he was right. He took my license and went to his car. I was in shock. He come back and hands me a $170.00 fine. I told him what had happened and assured him that I always wear my seat belt. He insisted that I broke the law. My husband was kind of miffed as well but at the same time relieved that he actually had his on. He is the one who forgets a lot. lol My beef today is....You would think after 38 years of good driving with never any fines or points. My God, would it of really hurt to give me a warning. Yes I did break the law but I do always wear my seatbelt. :{
I felt the punishment was very expensive for someone who has never had any infractions.
Have a nice weekend all :}

The cops hear every excuse in the book, they numb to it. They will give breaks, but it seems seatbelts are on the quota list the last few years.

'wigger is not actually a racial slur, any more than 'white liberal ' is. Loki it up! Unfortunately i dont have a big belt buckle, gotta rodeo for those ones. But i do hear they stop bullets (gonna be 'regulated ' by the province pretty soon i bet.

good night ... see you next week