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PGRH Has New Name

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Thursday, November 05, 2009 08:09 PM

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 Prince George, B.C.- Opinion250 has learned Prince George Regional Hospital has been renamed.

 
Effective immediately, the new name is  “The University Hospital of Northern B.C., Prince George.”
( sign outside the Hospital will have to  be changed  to reflect the new,  and much longer,  name of the facility. photo courtesy  Northern Health)
 
According to sources, the name change has already been approved by an Order in Council and word has been distributed to some agencies, such as Vital Statistics to make the name change effective immediately on birth and death certificates, yet,  it would seem no one told the folks at Northern Health until Opinion 250 raised the question late Wednesday.
 
It is expected the Health Services Minister, Kevin Falcon will make the official announcement tomorrow morning.
 
According to the Minister of Health, the name change reflects the Hospital’s changing role as it has become the main teaching site for UNBC’s Northern Medical Program.
 
The request to rename the hospital came from the Northern Medical Society of B.C.
 
Dr. Bert Kelly, the Executive Director of the Society says the new name is reflective of the plans for the future " This is part of the ten year plan to have a Northern Centre of Health Care Excellence."   Dr. Kelly says the name change also  cements the  government's acceptance that  the role of the hospital has  grown beyond it's regional  service  "We are more than a regional hospital, we are training Doctors, nurses, medical lab tehnicians,  soon there will  be  training for radiography technicians,  and we have an agreement in principle for physiotherapy.  This is  the  progression to ensuring  we have a secure supply of  experts who have been trained in the north."
 
The concept of  training physicians in the north so they would stay in the region was the northern B.C. prescription to offset the chronic pains of recruitment and retention of doctors.  
 
A plaque will be unveiled in the near future to mark the official name change.

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In other words, more $ coming our way with the name front and centre.

Smart move!!

Congrats!
UHNBCPG?????

Okay, so what is the real acronym going to be?
how much is it going to cost to change all adminitstrative information?
What a bunch of Horse S..t. Who the hell do these people think they are. They just up and change the name to anything they please.

Its vintage Prince George, always trying to make themselves into something they are not.

The concept of training physicians in the North to stay in the North has not yet been proven to be successful. In addition most people who come here to train do so because they have no choice. If they had a choice they would go to UBC. When these doctors get a diploma it reads UBC not UNBC. So lets quit playing these stupid games.

The Prince George Hospital is a Regional Hospital pure and simple. A name change wont make any difference.
Are you kidding me Palopu??? I'm wondering how you have so much insight into the 5 yrs of medical students that have been getting their training through the NMP and the residency programs in Prince George, UNBC and PGRH. You post is amazingly negative and presumptuous. FYI, many NMP students CHOSE to come here and many plan on staying and have stayed in northern BC and rural BC. yes they graduate w/ UBC DEGREES (not diplomas)but they have the exact same program at UVic, called the "Island Medical Program", identical to the "Northern Medical Program", and I assure you, the NMP doesn't get the "overflow" from UBC. You need to get your facts straight, and welcome change, especially when it benefits the entire northern region.
After being away from this site for some months, it is nice to see that some people are STILL stuck in the 20th, not make that the 19th Century.
palopu you need to get out more. did you know we have bus service now?
Oh and who are "those" people Palopu? Those educated doctors and such?? How dare they change the name of PGRH to something more fitting as it is now a TEACHING Hospital! I'm guessing that this went through committees and got voted on etc. I guess you thought you should have had a vote or say? hahahaah...yah, right.
Not a new idea. It was suggested soon after the formation of Northern Health Authority but because of financial constraints was not carried through.

Hopefully those involved carefully compared the financial costs to the possible gains of this move.
Does this mean that Patients can now be used as science experiments?
Suddenly, PG seems like a larger, more cosmopolitan regional settlement WAIT!
is that an unattended diesel powered pick up truck parked in front of The New UHNBC? There is no one in it, and the engine is running! OMG! call the
I-dull-fairy, quick!
metalman.
Not having access to the various University files one has to make some speculations. My understanding is that there are only so many applications accepted each year from medical students. I beleive that Prince George gets 25 positions, and probably the same for Uvic, and maybe the same for Kelowna. The balance goes to UBC.

What you would need to know is who receives these applications, and how are they determined. In other words if I apply to UBC and live in Burnaby it is within the realm of possibility that I will be told that because of the limited number of applicants accepted at UBC that I will have to attend UNBC, UVIC, or not be accepted., I know a number of people who were scared ****less*** that they would have to come to Prince George for their training.

I agree that some people are more than happy to get their training in Prince George, however there is also some people who would be a hell of a lot happier if they could have gone to UBC. Wake up and smell the roses.

Insofar as the name goes. The hospital is funded by the whole region, and is in fact a Regional Hospital. Trying to change the name for **Ego boosting** reasons is BS. It wasnt that long ago people in Prince George were going hat in had to people in the Region to get support for the Cancer Clinic. Having it called a Regional Hospital is all inclusive, and states exactly what it is. Trying to tie it in with the **Best SMAllEST University** in Canada is bunk.

Runnder46. Only a Backwoods Bozo would refer to the Diesel spewing, empty, monstrositys, that sit around town idling, with few or no passengers a bus service. I just passed a few to-day. They had a couple of passengers inside, and a couple outside **taking a smoke break** and they were idling. This goes on all day long. A huge cost, and very little benefit. I think our great bus service averages about 6 passengers per hour per bus, per day.

Blinders were invented so that vision would be restrictd. It seems that blinders are the order of the day in this town. Rarely do people see what is actually happening.

Once again I will make this quotation.

**Faith unaccompanied by rigorous skepticism, is a recipe for myopia, and foolishness** Joe Klein

Have a nice day.
All this time I thought it might be renamed the "Prince George Regional Walk In Clinic", seeing as you have to go to Quesnel to get yer tonsils out or to Richmond to have a baby. Glad they didn't rename the buses.
Palapu, please check out the website before you "speculate" further...
www.unbc.ca/nmp
you don't even have the number of students correct - UNBC and UVic have 32 students for each year...it started w/ 24, but it is such a success they upped the number. The students apply to UBC nand if they want to got to a specific site they indicate taht and those apps come to the NMP. They don't apply to UBC and UBC decides where they go...it doesn't work that way. For instance, the FoM has x number of med students for each year, there are 4 yrs of med school. 32 of those students come to the NMP for example for Yr 1 and 32 for yr 2 and so on and the same goes for the IMP. They would never be forced to come to the NMP for training...the NMP is looking for students who have interest in rural practice, if they have no desire to work in the north or in rural BC it defeats the purpose of the NMP to begin with.
If the name must be changed, I think it should be called, "Prince George Regional University Hospital"

PGRUH.............. that wouldn't be so hard to say, now would it?
That's a great name! I do believe it needed to be changed for funding purposes...but I'm not 100% sure on that.
The number was not upped because of the success. It was planned that way from the start and the space was built accordingly at the onset.

Here is the UBC page to go to that speaks about the "ditributed program". At the moment there are three locations, one being at UBC itself in a new building. The key which they all share is that in years 3 and 4, the "clinical/clerkship" years, they all move to areas throughout the province.

The fourth location, Kelowna, is expected to be added in the fall of 2010.

The Northern program thus includes clerkships in Terrace as well as the Peace.

Given the official name is "The University Hospital of Northern B.C., Prince George”, we might be seeing future name changes of other northern hospitals to names such as:

"The University Hospital of Northern B.C., Terrace”

The University Hospital of Northern B.C., Fort St. John”, etc.

The aspect of "regional" has changed considerably from the time that the hospital was given that name.

As the name reflects, the region no longer refers to the regional district boundaries. The region is the north that is defined by the health region.

The organization which governs that health region has now reduced its dba name to "Northern Health".
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I know of an individual who grew up in the North, asked to be placed into the program at UNBC, but was placed elsewhere due to the location the individual was living and the University attended for the undergraduate degree at the time of the application.

BTW, in Ontario one applies to a central application centre, one gives the University of their choice plus alternates, and gets placed accordingly. Even without that, studetns have traditionally applied to various universities and even programs just to cover their backsides.

Not getting into university or program of your choice is nothing new.

BTW, the program accepts students from outside of the province. Ontario is the only other province that has a similar program. They created a whole new faculty of medicine for their program as a joint effort of the universities in Thunder Bay and Sudbury..

http://www.normed.ca/about_us/default.aspx?id=68

It states: "When the School welcomed its first students in September 2005, it became the first new medical school in Canada in over 30 years, and only the second new medical school in North America during a similar period."

Which is, of course, true since the program at UNBC is part of the UBC faculty.

We started the relationship with UBC a year after Ontario started to develop a new Faculty of Medicine. We ended up having students in seats two years ahead of Ontario in addition to having students graduating with a degree from a respected medical school rather than a "new kid on the block". That is not to say that the new kid on the block may end up being the better program. We can attest to that since UNBC itself has excelled very quickly as a small university.
I think it should be named the Galt Wilson Hospital. GWH .....
It should be named after Dr Wilson!
It should be called..

NO VACANCY
Shegrins. Your right about the number being increased from 24 to 32 however you should re-read the Selection Process that the MoF uses to determine who is selected for the NMP. The selection committee is not aware of where the applicants want to locate, nor are they aware of where they live etc;

My point is that if you have a limited number of positions, ie; 32 at Victoria, and 32 at Prince George and the balance at UBC and the majority of the applicants are from the lower mainland area (which they are) and if the majority want to attend UBC or UVic, then at some point some of the applicants who want to attend UBC will have to come to Prince George.

It is highly unlikely that all applicants would be able to attend the University of their choice.

So it is within the realm of possibility that while your preference is to go to UBC because of the selection process you could end up in Prince George. This is a direct result of the process, and applicants have little or no control over it. Hence the **fear** that they will get selected to go to Prince George, rather than being allowed to stay in Vancouver and attend UBC which of course would be their first choice.

So we can say that because of the selection process, some students are being **forced** to attend University outside the lower mainland.

It would be interesting to see how many applicants from the Interior were selected to attend UBC, or UVIC, this would give us a good indication if the process is fair, or if it is smoke and mirrors, and politically tainted.

Because of the demographics of the Northern Interior it is only a matter of time that applicants from the North will diminish, and of course they will stay the same or increase in the lower mainland, and so we will be eventually looking at more and more students from the lower mainland coming to Prince George. This of course works ok for UNBC, however it is not to impressive for the mainlanders.

Their solution would be to increase the positions available at UBC and decrease the positions at UNBC. I doubt if this would sit well with the Prince George people, however if they remember that they wanted this University here so that people in the area could attend University without going to the lower mainland, then if they were upright and honest Citizens they should understand whey the mainlanders wouldnt want to come here.

Have a nice day.
Gus. Call it what you will. The bottom line is that the Prince George Regional Hospital serves a number of Regional Districts in North Central British Columbia, and is therefore a Regional Hospital.

Just because you are teaching some medical students here doesnt transform it into a University Hospital except in the minds of people who are not comfortable with living in the Regions. I suspect some of these people are the same ones who refer to Prince George as the **Northern Capital of BC** a purely **Bunko** designation that has no legal standing.

To make my point.

Lord Moran, British, high commissioner in Ottawa, Canada, between 1981 and 1984, claimed Canadians had limited talents. He stated.

**Anyone who is even moderately good at what they do-in literature,the theatre, skiing or whatever-tends to become a national figure. And anyone who stands out at all from the crowd tends to be praised to the skies and given the Order of Canada at once**

Seems like we are always trying to build ourselves up to be something more than we are. Im sure that having Mr. PG on a national stamp must *piss off** some of our cultural guru's.