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Hartley Miller's Slap Shots June 10, 2005

By Hartley Miller

Friday, June 10, 2005 03:40 AM

--Keep the beer out of the Multiplex (okay if you insist) the CN Centre. You can see I want my cup half empty on this issue. City Council will decide if it wants to listen to the Yahoos who are trying to push for it. I don't care if most of the other arenas have beer available, Prince George doesn't need it.

It's time for the Councilors to show some leadership and reject the idea. Get the cash grab from some place else.  I realize going to the Cougar games can be a snooze and isn't what it used to be. But fans aren't staying away because of a lack of beer, but rather a lack of wins. 
Prince George is a very young community, thus the age of the crowd could create more alcohol problems. 
Family night at the rink doesn't mean booze night. There's lots of opportunity to drown your sorrows at plenty of places afterward.
Regardless if you want to give it an experiment or not, think of this;  John Doe is attending a Cougar game. Before arriving, he had a few beer in his system; then at the game, he has a few more. After the game, while driving under the influence, he gets out of the congested parking lot and slams into your vehicle, not just causing serious damage to the car, but more importantly to those of you inside. Not going to happen you say or that scenario is over dramatic?  All it takes is once.  
  
--What's the hold up in the naming of the UNBC women's basketball coach ? Loralyn  Murdoch has taken a one-year leave of absence from the job to pursue her level four coaching certification at the University of Victoria. The season has been over three months and the hiring committee knew well before, that Murdoch was going to the island to upgrade her education. It just so happens that Murdoch is on the hiring committee as well as UNBC Athletics and Recreation Co-ordinator Len McNamara and, of course, a basketball guru or two from the University's Human Resources. 
 
I realize there's plenty of protocol to go through, but wasting this much time is ridiculous with off season recruiting critical at this point of the year.

Prospective players want to know who they would be playing for if they decide Prince George is the place for them.
Four applied for the position: two local and two from out of town. It has appeared obvious to me since the opening became available, that the job would go to Dave Holmes, Loralyn's assistant last season. I don't believe anything has come up to change that view. So, let's get on with things and make it official. After all, the naming of a new Pope was done in less one-third of the time.
 
--Richard M. Nixon sunk a hole-in-one a day after the world found out the identity of Deep Throat. That M is for Mark and not Milhous. He's a 27-year-old Gym teacher who scored the ace at the Spencer T. Olin golf course in Alton, Ill.
No word as to whether Alexander (I'm in charge) Haig was the caddy.
  

--If you have tried your hand at talking in front of the public, I'm sure you will be able to relate to this one.
 Bud Greenspan, Olympic cinematographer, told the Los Angeles Times he once showed up for a public speaking engagement where there was only one person in attendance.
Figuring he'd already been paid to do it, Greenspan gave his speech, and the one-man audience hung on every word, even clapping and laughing. 
"Afterward, I said to the man, 'Come on, I'll buy you a drink.'  "And he said, 'I'm sorry, I can't. I'm the next speaker.' "

And, how is your week ?


--Hartley Miller is the sports director for the top two rated radio stations in Prince George and can be heard weekdays at 7:25am, 8:25am, 11:55am and 4:40pm on 94X and at 7:05am, 7:35am, 8:05am, 12:05pm and 5:05pm on the Wolf@97FM.
E-mail Hartley at hmiller@94xfm.com


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Hartley, I am in shock. I can't believe you have taken this particular stance on the beer issue in the CN Center. It is a complete no brainer. Consider this...John Doe is attending the Cougar game. Before arriving he had a few beer in his system; then at the game he has a few more...In the parking lot, or suites! This is already going on....have we heard of some great disaster? Give me a break with all the what ifs...What if city taxes the crap out us some more since they need more avenues to waste money?(like trips to the East)This seems more likely and destructive on PG residents.

So, setting aside the ridiculous notion of an unruly alcoholic mob destroying the city...lets take a look at the marketing and financial. Hmmmm...if it is being done everywhere else, junior and major...how can you think we are different? This is a huge revenue generator not to mention an additional draw for hockey fans. Can you imagine a NHL game that didnt serve alcohol? I agree that winning or getting on track to winning is a big concern for fan support here, but making a stand on a No-alcohol policy for a hockey game? How stupid does that sound. Beer and hockey are a Canadian staple that go together! Let them serve it...let them charge high prices for it...Let the city join the rest of Canada..and let this issue go.
C'mon Hartley,let get with the program,lets have a little visit to grade 5 math here OK.
Cost to the city for a cup of beer?Lets say $1 to $2 bucks,it would probably cost $5 to $7 bucks to purchase at the game,so lets say that after you pay for the guys wages to serve the beer and all the other costs involved the pure profit on a cup of beer would be $3.50(I'm just guessing here)Now lets just say we sell 1000 cups of beer per night on average,that works out to $3500 per night ya ya I know,dosn't sound like alot,but here is my point.....36 games a year(more if the cats could ever make the playoffs,don't get me started...)ok 36X $3500=$126000 per year(I think my numbers are very conservative)My problem is 10 years at $126000 per year works out to 1.2 million,thats alot of dough that we have left on the table not to mention it took council and Lil'Collin 10 years to figure out wether or not the sign thing was a good deal uh duh.
If you and I ran our businesses like this we would be downtown with all the other homeless people eating out of dumpsters.........
P.S.just my opinion buddy don't take it personally ROCK
IMO, this is a completely easy decision. Does the city need dollars? If everyone fed up with their taxes going up? Why does the provincial government control liquor sales? To make money is the answer. What makes evrything turn in our little world? CASH.
Why did we elect three liberal MLA's? Because people in P>G> seem to think that a right wing pro business agenda is best. Now with that in mind why would we be so left wing in terms of alchohol at the plex? seems inconsitent and misguided. Hartley wake up and smell the barley and hops. Mark my words, there will be "pilsner at the plex".

peace out brothers.
I am in complete agreement with Hartley over not having beer at junior hockey games. I, for one, have had many games ruined because of some idiots who - at times literally - can't hold their beer. I certainly will not take my son to a game to have him listen to the ramblings, slurrings and verbal abuse heaped on players, coaches and officials by some drunkard. I think if you can't go to a hockey game and enjoy it without having beer or alcohol, you've got a problem. I like beer. But I can certainly wait three hours til a game is over before having one or two.
The other thing that has bothered me for years about selling alcohol at junior hockey games (major junior or BCHL) is that alcohol is being sold where the majority of participants in the game are under the legal drinking age of 19. To me, that smacks of hypocracy. Day in and day out teenagers are being inundated with messages about the dangers of alcohol and drugs, and drinking and driving, yet 17 and 18 year olds have to listen to abuse from people in the stands who have had one too many. Of course, such is not the case at an NHL game, where a great majority of players - though not all - are over 19.
I agree with the one comment, beer and hockey are Canadian staples. Doesn't mean they have to be together.
Can you go to a minor hockey game and enjoy it without having a beer? Why can't you do it for major junior?
I think a simple solution is to ban alcohol sales at events where minors participate. And, yes, that includes major junior and BCHL hockey. Especially those two. Keep up the good work Hartley!
Hartley,
I have been listening to your radio broadcasts for years, and I didn't think that I would ever see the day that I would agree with you, but that day has arrived. I totally agree with you Hartley (and with Foul Tip). Prince George is not ready for beer sales at hockey games. We have a "young" town and if you attend Cougar games you will often see many young families. Mix in "idiotic drunks" with this crowd and you have a recipe for disaster. Prince George is not like other sports town. Kelowna, for instance, has a very sophisticated elderly crowd who can handle a beer or two at a hockey game. Until Prince George "grows up" I say keep the beer where it belongs, in the bar. Way to go Hartley, I agree with you, keep spreading the positive message.
Ignorance and lack of knowledge once again attempt to make their stand on a issue they can only see from their one "simple" angle. PG77 and Foultip really have no clue on the game or business. The only stand you two know how to make is about the evil's of alcohol....which DO have their place but not here. This decision is about revenue, a hockey tradition and putting butts in the seats. Your mindless rants about this being a young city and not being able to handle it are bull. The comment about Kelowna crowd being older and more sophisticated is a laughable. Maybe an older crowd comes to enjoy a social atmosphere with the option of alcohol? You think that alcohol is going to bring out the idiots? Go to any Cougar game right now and I can point out at least ten of the same idiots without alcohol...reaming the refs and yelling at the top of their lungs causing those around to cringe.

The comment about no alcohol at minor games has no relevance, people who go to minor games go to see their kids, obviously this is not a place for alcohol, you dont BUY tickets for those games either.

What we have here are a couple of over protective parents that are afraid of the world. Educate your kids at home is the best you can do. Major/Junior hockey games are entertainment for the general public, beer is a huge revenue boost for the team and the city and will ensure a better product. I have played hockey for years and know twenty times the people that would be more inclined to go if was a hockey atmosphere with beer. In fairness to your side though...I would like to see this: make one half the plex alcohol and the other non....guess which side would be more full of fans.

It is a no brainer, the sky won't fall chicken little, it is done EVERYWHERE else, serve it, charge an arm and a leg for it, catch up with the rest of Canada, and gripe about an issue you have all the facts on. You wanna weigh in on this one Hartley?
Memo to anyone that thinks it's just "drunken idiots" that hurl abuse at officials and opposing players: SOBER PEOPLE DO IT TOO. You're at a hockey game...not a tea and crumpet reception with the queen. If you can't handle typical everday occurances that go on at hockey rinks all over North America, then go to a quilting bee.

Simple soultion...just like GM place in Vancouver: have specific sections for drinkers and specific sections that do not allow alcohol. Bottom line, hockey and beer are Canadian, and last I checked...PG was in Canada.