Some idiots do stupid things. Where's the story??

I think for the most part the police are good people but a recent experience with a traffic cop who clearly lied to win his trial (over a seat belt ticket)with us has put an edge of caution in our minds when around the police. (we won the case in case your wondering.. the judge didn't buy it either) A few young impolite traffic stop cops in Quesnel acting all tough and full of attitude didn't help either. Watching the cbc video of the situation in Williams lake show (as the man says in the interview) that its for the most part new recruits who are coming in full of attitude. I do hope young men and woman are joining the force for the right reasons.

The same thing (a traffic cop not telling the truth in court) happened to me some years ago and my previously favourable opinion of the RCMP has been destroyed ever since!

I now have at best a barely neutral but very cautious attitude.

There is a simple solution to this problem... stay out of jail!!!

Cougars thats a lame thing to say. What are you a probation officer.

Are you kidding me? The police have had 3 separate complaints filed against them on these?

Hmmmm... I agree with "cougars fan" ... STAY OUT OF JAIL!

Dumb laws make people dumb. Uttering threats is done daily in the house of commons and on every school yard. Unsafe storage of firearms is a bum rap regardless of circumstances. The older I get the more I dislike the law and the police. They can fabricate anything they want to and so can the CO's. They are becoming quite adept at fabricating. When dealing with those people remember your rights and remain silent until you see a lawyer.

There are probably a lot of good cops out there but it's the encounters with those that are a-holes that you remember.

So many are bullies and use scare and intimidation tactics for no reason on innocent people....and then they wonder why no one gives them any respect.

This story doesn't mention three important points...

(1) The BC Civil Liberties Association is filing complaints with the Solicitor General and the Public Complaints Commission.
(2) The detachment commander himself is implicated in the misconduct and
(3) That the RCMP tried to quash coverage of this in the local press.

Copying and pasting police press releases doesn't mean you're telling the whole story. There is serious racial tension in Williams Lake that we'd all rather ignore.

Oh my god. The first paragraph of the article should be : How Williams lake mounties react to irrational and violent prisoner behavior and maintain decorum in the cell block without hurting anybody.

These complaints are no doubt fueled by greedy lawyers who wanted cell block video of their clients who are obviously goofs. Its an attempt to get charges quashed in any way possible.

The idiot who was covering the camera lens with toilet paper mitigated his move to another cell. The cameras are there to monitor the prisoner in case they attempt suicide or there is another health issue that needs immediate attention. The public whines about not enough cameras in police stations but when a prisoner is trying to basically render them inneffective you cry wolf at police attempts to stop this?

The idiot who was trying to remove a ceiling vent was obviously trying to damage federal government property. The police took action to stop this from happening.

The idiot who woudn't comply with the lawfull demands of the member during a lawfull search prior to going to cells was resisting and obstructing the officer. Since he locked his arms and would not comply, the member used the appropriate amount of force to get this done safely.
And the Identification of Criminals Act states that officers may use appropriate amounts of force to ensure the person charged complies with the giving of prints.

I think the RCMP needs a union for its members. Sure, with any large organization there will be some individuals with problems. What people do not know is that for decades anyone can make any kind of complaint against a member for whatever reason they wish. Some are frivilous and vexatious and just meant to cause stress to the member involved. The time has come for a union to advise these people that if a complaint is determined to be unfounded and frivilous, they are to expect to be sued civilly in court. Too long have the membership just turned the other cheek.

"The idiot who woudn't comply with the lawfull demands of the member during a lawfull search prior to going to cells was resisting and obstructing the officer. Since he locked his arms and would not comply, the member used the appropriate amount of force to get this done safely."
~lmorge


http://www.bccla.org/pressreleases/10Williams_Lake2.html

Let's not forget that patrol officers do very little work. The average cop makes an arrest every 20 days. It is this leisure aspect of the business that has resulted in the creation of 150 useless "specialty units" by the RCMP. Most require 1 or 2 days of Mickey Mouse training for certification. Serving 25 years in these worthless 9-5 playpens, gets the cop a pension equalling 2% of wages - average over the last 6 years - up to 50%. One third of RCMP slugs rake in over $100,000 per year.

Bottom line: while cops do some work during their average shift, cop work is mostly leisure time. We pay for garbage, and we can't afford it.

Let me pre-empt Chilaco-Pete's inevitable serve-and-protect BS. Since the founding of Canada, no sued cop has ever admitted to bearing a duty of care to any of their pay-masters. Until we put those glorified security guards on a short leash with a choke hold, they will continue to put us in jeopardy. Note: until organized policing commenced - circa the mid 19th century - 100% of crimes were prosecuted; our current paid protective surrogates ensure prosecution of 5% of reported crimes, and suppress complaint exercise. Like I said: GARBAGE.

Don't believe it? Check out this garbage:
[url:http://www.rapereliefshelter.bc.ca/issues/Bonnie_mooney_COURT_OF_APPEAL_FOR_%20BC_final.pdf[/url]

However, our judges (read: ex-prosecutors and crown dirtbags) hold that Tax-Payers have a DUTY to pay unearned cop wages and extorted pensions.

Of RCMP pensions, I meant to write: 2% for each year - of up to 25 - of parking behind buildings and threatening to arrest Rights-bearers who exercise Complaints.

And Canadian cops - especially the Canadian Police Alliance - take counsel from the Los Angeles Police Protective League, which has secured pensions equalling 90% of wages. Cop unions have nearly bankrupted California. And they will do the same here, unless we outlaw them.

Thanks for the link Heidi, very informative.

No problem myusername61.
Actually here is another one:
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100930/bc_force_expert_100930/20100930?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

If you look to the box to the right of the video player box you'll see what the surveillance camera caught.