i assume the lady who reported it must have been on cocaine or the like, probably after buying from the woman on first and dominion.

giving the rcmp the carte blanche powers they have and given the taser issues and the debacle over in ottawa, it is hard to have much faith in the rcmp

The above is an assinine statement by squirl

Well, it didn't take long for someone to make a ridiculous statement regarding police (looking at you squirl). So let me get this straight, no police or fire fighters are involved, yet you still manage to spew filth about police officers? Damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess.

And this is just another reason why I hope the Citizen goes under. It's nothing but a rag magazine, desperately seeking attention in any way it can. Publishing a story bad mouthing police and firefighters with absolutely no facts or attempts at fact finding. I might as well have read the National Enquirer for my news, it's about as accurate as the Citizen.

LOL, where is the proof this didn't actually happen as reported by this women. There is no absolute proof it did or did not happen. Anyone that takes the word of the above "gang" without proof is one of the sheep.
Without proof either way, you can't say one way or another what happened. Can you?

As far as Squirl spewing filth about police officers as stated by cmdrjoe, where have you been in the last ten years to make a statement like that?

Filth it is not, public observation it is.

Wow....was this even necessary? Did anyone actually believe that poorly written piece of garbage? When I read these PG Citizen articles that are written by the infamous "Citizen Staff", and then quote an "anonymous" source, I have a hard time believing any of it. I have attendended the ceremonies for many years now and always seem to end up in the Legion. This year was like every other, I witnessed many firefighters and RCMP both sitting together and sharing stories. Both organizations are always very respectful and act with the utmost professionalism. This is just another example of the Prince George Citizen attempting to cause unfounded controversy, unfortunately, at the expense of our police and firefighters. I wouldn't give them a nickel for that "National Inquirer" style of reporting. Del would roll over in his grave if he saw what Mr. Nicholson has done to our local paper.

Dragon - if you are looking for sheep, just look in the mirror and you will find a cowardly one hiding behind a squirl.

Seems to me there was a thorough investigation, the story was false, the citizen has not apologized, so yeah, sue their butts off. I have a serious time believing anything I see or hear from media locally and lower mainland. If a persons makes a slanderous or libelous statement of others, that person should be taken to task.
Now, can we get on with our lives and have fun?
Having said that, I've got a lot of respect for Opinion 250.

From the original article dated November 25th. I totally support the thoughts of the lady addressing issues at the Legion on Rememberance day. I was present the whole day until closing, and I know there are more then a few people that were aware of what truly was going on.

boys will be boys:)

Squirl
"i assume the lady who reported it must have been on cocaine or the like, probably after buying from the woman on first and dominion."
I don't know why, but your post leaves questions about assumptions, as Drag whatsisname has mentioned. Someone sees something, reports it to the paper and it would appear something happened but who knows what?
There may have been an incident, but to malign a person who saw it without knowing her, that's just wrong.

With the citizen also having a volunteer fire department (Pineview VFD) mentioned in the original article. Why was there no one from the Regional District at the news conference, letting the residences of Pineview know that the firefighters of Pineview were not involved? I believe that some people are still wondering if they were involved.

WOW! First, Dragon..you do nothing but spew inciteful comments. You call the above a "gang" give your head a shake, i am sure you would be the first person calling the police in a time of need and then you would find some reason to complain about the response...before you make comments maybe you should actually spend some time seeing what the police have to deal with every day. Second Cabin Fever, what exactly did the lady say that you support? All of her allegations have been proven false by every agency that investigated. What was truly going on as you say? The issue is the rag known as the citizen printed an unsubstantiated story and now has to deal with the fallout..sure does sound like the enquirer. Keep up the good work RCMP and the firefighters of Prince George

WOW! First, Dragon..you do nothing but spew inciteful comments. You call the above a "gang" give your head a shake, i am sure you would be the first person calling the police in a time of need and then you would find some reason to complain about the response...before you make comments maybe you should actually spend some time seeing what the police have to deal with every day. Second Cabin Fever, what exactly did the lady say that you support? All of her allegations have been proven false by every agency that investigated. What was truly going on as you say? The issue is the rag known as the citizen printed an unsubstantiated story and now has to deal with the fallout..sure does sound like the enquirer. Keep up the good work RCMP and the firefighters of Prince George

WOW! First, Dragon..you do nothing but spew inciteful comments. You call the above a "gang" give your head a shake, i am sure you would be the first person calling the police in a time of need and then you would find some reason to complain about the response...before you make comments maybe you should actually spend some time seeing what the police have to deal with every day. Second Cabin Fever, what exactly did the lady say that you support? All of her allegations have been proven false by every agency that investigated. What was truly going on as you say? The issue is the rag known as the citizen printed an unsubstantiated story and now has to deal with the fallout..sure does sound like the enquirer. Keep up the good work RCMP and the firefighters of Prince George

So Dragon,

I guess "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to your friends and not police?

So the police investigated the police and the firemen investigated the firemen and they found no evidence of wrongdoing. Colour me jaded but aren't the police the same outfit that determined that shooting someone in the back of the head was self-defense? Aren't these the same police that tasered a defenseless immigrant in the Vancouver airport 5 times until he died? The list goes on. There is something really wrong with our police forces these day.

I'm actually quite curious as to how the city was involved in the investigation. They can't even plow a street.

Ahhh faxman, another poster who has nothing better to do than bash the police. It's funny that all the agencies investigated and all they stories are basically the same..did they all conspire? You mention two police incidents but i never notice you mentioning the thousands of good things the police of this country do ever single day

Hey commonsensepls, you got yer head on straight.

"You mention two police incidents but i never notice you mentioning the thousands of good things the police of this country do ever single day"

Like what? What's the percentage of police who do "good things" in this country? 2? 3? I bet it's not very high. Ask the thousands of burglary victims who are shrugged off on a daily basis where these good cops are.

Our police forces are a disgrace.

Streetwise2, why would you be calling me a Coward? Ever hear of the "just say no to drugs" program? Sheesh!

Actually commonsensepls, in any time of need I might have for help, I will take care of business myself thank you very much. I have the ways and means to do so.
I've had my life time fill of useless RCMP members trying to be the Dudley Dorights in my life. They have been pretty much nothing but backstabbing SOB's in any issues I've ever needed them for. I think Ian Busch probably feels the same way.
Don't make me list all the issues the RCMP have have going against them these days.

cmdrjoe, Do you see anywhere that I have said anyone is guilty until proven innocent? No you have not, so why such a retarded question? What I have said is this.... There is no evidence that this did or did not happen. If you believe it did not happen just because your hero's said it did not happen, then there is a problem here. Don't you think? Can you say Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

X2 Faxman!

OMG, its like two kids sitting beside the pricnipal. Wow, did not, did so, did not, did so.... Whack whack.... wimper wimper, you did, did not, you did, did not.

I would expect to hear more on this issue. The Citizen published the same information (roughly) as listed above, however they havent as yet made any mention of a retraction. So far all we have from them is a **no comment**

Seems to me that having all the big guns come out and being flanked by 6 Councillors is maybe just a bit of overkill.

As Shakespear said **He doth protest too much**

It would be nice to see all these heavy hitters come out to deal with drugs, break and enters, home invasions, etc; seems when we deal with real issues of crime etc; they are content to leave it to the RCMP, but for some reason they felt that this issue warranted their input.

Lets see what the morrow brings.

@ all the s.m.r.t posts

I was there from start to finish and can attest this alleged incident did NOT happen.

I love when anything police related gets posted 'cause all 'winners', or should I say whiners really show their true colors.

First off, get your facts straight and learn not to obtain info from a tv/newspaper/star magazine or the enquirer. You're all starting to sound like Jon Daly.

What if your house burt down or was to get robbed for that matter? Seeing as how you can mastermind your own assumption on the RCMP/Fire Dept perhaps you can instruct them on how to do their job when several people they run into, much like you, can't help themselves.

What I'd like to instruct you to do is give your head a real good shake, be sure to let out the unicorns and laserbeams and allow for all those sensible thoughts to realign themselves.

Life is real, quit dreaming. Think about it.

@ all the s.m.r.t posts

I was there from start to finish and can attest this alleged incident did NOT happen.

I love when anything police related gets posted 'cause all 'winners', or should I say whiners really show their true colors.

First off, get your facts straight and learn not to obtain info from a tv/newspaper/star magazine or the enquirer. You're all starting to sound like Jon Daly.

What if your house burt down or was to get robbed for that matter? Seeing as how you can mastermind your own assumption on the RCMP/Fire Dept perhaps you can instruct them on how to do their job when several people they run into, much like you, can't help themselves.

What I'd like to instruct you to do is give your head a real good shake, be sure to let out the unicorns and laserbeams and allow for all those sensible thoughts to realign themselves.

Life is real, quit dreaming. Think about it.

Ahhh faxman, another poster who has nothing better to do than bash the police. It's funny that all the agencies investigated and all they stories are basically the same..did they all conspire? You mention two police incidents but i never notice you mentioning the thousands of good things the police of this country do ever single day

Dragonmaster, perfect example as to why youth today grows up with crappy attitudes towards any authority figures and then find themselves in bad situations or in trouble and they belch the same garbage as you, blame police blame whoever except the person in the mirror. ANY one who was at there knows that police and fire where NOT involved in any of the things mentioned in the article, what more evidence do you need? Where you there? Or better yet were you out showing showing support for the thousands that have died so you could have the right to post your drivel on these sites?

Lets not forget that Firemen and Police get paid to do their job, the same as anyone else working in this Country.

I am not aware of anyone who twisted the arm of an individual to get them to go to work as a fireman or police officer. They made these career choices on their own.

They get paid for this work. No different than a Doctor,Lawyer, Truck Driver, Garbage driver etc;. The danger of the job is obvious, however I dont think that we need to be thanking them every day.

We all know that if we quit paying them they would be gone in a flash.

I like what you said commonsensepls. If the media continue to bash the RCMP, there will be no recruits to fill the shoes. As if, really as if any police force would do a better job and can you imagine trying to police the small communties of the north. A provincial police force would be better. I think not. Let the cops do their job and show them some respect. I think that the people that bash them are really quite ignorant of the duties of the average cop on an average night.

Palopu, "however I dont think that we need to be thanking them every day." ????

Jesus man, do you even look after you type? when was the last time your garbage man pulled your ass out of a burning, living, hell? I'll gladly pay my taxes with honour, if it means that these guys will still be employed.

By the way, here's my thank you for today, Firefighters far and wide! Thank you for doing your job. I'm glad that when you come to work you put your prejudices aside and provide that public service to every citizen regardless of social class or color.

Palopu, take a good look at all the people in your life that would be affected if you, "quit paying them." try to tell your Grandmother who fell down the stairs, or your brother who put his life into a downtown business that caught fire, or your son who crashed his new car into a telephone post, that you dont really need Police Fire or Ambulance.

Funny, those the heavy hitters ring a bell? Maybe because they are the backbone of YOUR emergency responce, and when YOUR world is falling apart, their just, "get(ing) paid to do their job."

How about some common sense in the matter. Did the Citizen publish a story that was wrong indicating that whoever attended the legion after November 11th were involved in a brawl. Did it cast a bad light on the people that were in attendance? This is not about police firemen or the job they do, it is about a story trying to cast people in a bad light that was a lie.

Ode:
Well said.

Firstly I appreciate what the Police and Fireman do. My point is they do it by choice and for the pay and pensions attached to the job the same as everyone else. Of course its dangerous, and of course they save lives. So do surgeons, and our soldiers in Afghanistan. This is part of the make up of any society.

My point is that we seem to get carried away with the lavish praise. I think that we all know that there are good police and fireman and bad police and fireman. One shoe doesnt fit all. There have been a number of instances over the past few years where Police did not do a very good job. So lets take them off the pedestal and put them closer to the ground that they walk on.

Insofar as the original story goes, I notice in to-days Citizen that they are sticking to their story, and state that they have an eye witness and other people to corroborate the story.

Lets see what transpires.

What exactly are the qualifications needed to be a journalist these days? At one time was it not considered to be a noble undertaking? I suspect old time journalists just shake their head in disbelief as what their profession has turned into these days.

I should add, this isn't just targeted at this particular story. Just watch any evening newscast or pickup most any paper and look at the drivel that graces the pages. It's pretty funny how Jon Stewart (a comedian playing a newsman) actually provokes more thought with his show that most any nightly newscast you'll see.

What most people forget is police and fire fighters are people too. And sometimes people make bad decisions. I am not saying I believe the story did or didn't happen but what makes me skeptical of all that has transpired is our mayor says it didn't happen and I have a hard time believing a lot of what comes from his mouth. Just my opinion.

Maybe, just maybe, someone should go and talk to this 'woman' the PG Citizen claims to have talked to and ask her what she saw? Was there anyone else who saw what she did? Oh, but I forgot, 'journalistic privilege' they probably won't divulge her identity. And if it ws a 'brawl', doesn't that indicate there must have been many people involved? There must be a whole bunch of witnesses as well. Did the witness mention what time this happened? Surely there would be other people there at that time who could verify what she saw. Or didn't see. And why would it take two weeks for this story to come out? Lots of questions around this one.

dragonmaster "Actually commonsensepls, in any time of need I might have for help, I will take care of business myself thank you very much. I have the ways and means to do so."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you for the laugh - its nice to know that the internet tough guys are out there keeping our streets safe. I will sleep better. Enjoy your game of dungeons and dragons, dont stay up too late.

Simple enough proposition the Firemen’s Union can launch a libel action against the Citizen, in that way the Citizen will be required in civil court to say who their so called “informant” was and the firemen, police and others can testify as to what they saw. That will clear up the whole matter and it would likely result in the Firemen’s Union Coffers having a little more money in it, when they are finished ,compliments of the Citizen.

Ode / Interceptor:

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!

Billm wrtoe: "Simple enough proposition the Firemen’s Union can launch a libel action against the Citizen, in that way the Citizen will be required in civil court to say who their so called “informant” was"

Even simpler than that. The person's first and last names are the first and second words in the newspaper article. She is shown as an employee at the Legion.

Read the article yourself. Not sure why she would make the allegations she does. It is reported to have been partially backed up by an individual who wrote a letter to the paper but wished to not divulge his/her name.

It was in the Wednesday paper.

Some people drink. Some people drink excessively on occasion. Some people get obnoxious when they have had too much alcohol. People in uniform are exactly that, people.

Some may think that a uniform gives them special powers to oppose human weaknesses. I am much more of a realist than that.

http://www.thedrunkdrivingmasses.com/2010/07/5th-bc-rcmp-officer-faces-drunk-driving.html

Ode wrote: "Life is real, quit dreaming. Think about it."

I agree totally!!!!

I thought about it. Did you, ode?

The City and the Police were looking for a retraction and it looks like they are not going to get one.

The local paper is sticking to its guns.

I suspect that over time the truth will come out. Until then all we can do is speculate.

Seems like Ode didnt see anything while others apparently seen something. Hmmmmmmmm.