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Investigators Rely on U.S. Expert in Loren Leslie Murder Case

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Monday, December 06, 2010 06:24 PM

Prince George, B.C.- The RCMP North District Major Crimes Unit  is continuing its efforts in the investigation of the  death  of 15 year old Loren Donn Leslie of Fraser Lake.  Her body was discovered following a traffic stop by a Fort St James  RCMP officer on November 27, 22 km north of Vanderhoof on Highway 27.

 
Corporal Dan Moskaluk says the investigation includes  sending Loren Leslie's remains to  be examined by an expert in the United States  “The investigators are not releasing any information pertaining to the cause of death or of the injuries sustained by the victim at this point in the investigation.  We can confirm that part of the post mortem forensic examination was performed at the Kamloops Royal Inlands Hospital last week.  Investigators also sought the expertise of a particular specialist, state side, in Pennsylvania last week, which saw the transfer of the young girls’ remains to a facility in Pennsylvania.  We are unable to provide details at this time as to the nature of this particular portion of the post mortem examination, but can state that it was a necessary and important step to take.  We want to ensure that we are very thorough and do our best by Loren and her family”
 
The examination of the scene where Loren's body was discovered off of Highway  27  has been  completed says Moskaluk.  He adds that the  GMC pickup driven by the accused, Cody Legebokoff, remains with police and continues to be examined. 
 
Corporal Moskaluk also says investigators executed a search warrant at the Prince George residence of Cody Legebokoff in an effort to collect any evidence connected to the death of Loren Leslie.
 

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How much is that going to cost us? We have no Sherlocks in Canada?
Have some respect for Loren and her family. If it was my daughter, I would want to know as much as I could as well. The evidence they find may help solve other crimes. My condolences go out the family and friends that have been affected by this horrible event. Many prayers to those seeking answers.
If the RCMP officers involved are dedicated to this investigation,and use good old fashioned police work, they will get all the information they need.

Tragic death for a family, and an entire community. Words do not express the horror.

However, sending this beautiful little girl, to Pennsylvania, with an RCMP escourt is not about necessity. It will cost thousands of extra dollars, and bring little, if any, new information.

No financial accountability. RCMP spending is shameful.
On one hand, we have those who say that this is a tragic death of young girl. On the other hand, we have those that say that sending her remains is an excessive cost.

What exactly do you want to be more important? Dollars, or justice? There can be no monetary amount attached to the life of a young girl. Those that even think of expressing the cost of investigating the loss a young life should rethink their own.

Is your life worth $1. Or $1000? To what price tag do you attach your own life?
Those of you who claim that this is an unnecessary expense, how the heck do you know? Do you have inside information on the investigation? Do you know ANYTHING about forensic medicine, and in particular, what local medical examiners can do as opposed to what specialized facilities can do? Unless you do, you've got no basis for your claims.
What is shameful is the posters who are claiming sending this poor girl's remains to PA is a "waste" of money. Given the fact that no details on COD have been posted, you have no basis on which you are making your claim. You have no idea whatsoever why the investigators have deemed this a necessary course of action.
As a PP mentioned, if that were your daughter, your sister, your friend, wouldn't you want AND deserve every possible answer in such a senseless tragedy?
Shame on you.
cmdrjoe,

For me, this is not a question of "what is more important, dollars or justice?"

Both are relevant and have their place.

A brutal death deserves justice. We are fortunate that an RCMP officer acted so promptly. A violent criminal is locked away. Justice will (as most of us know) take time, and a hefty toll on all involved.

Might be a different story if the attacker was at large. Or if this young man who was arrested was a known John. Or if there was some connection to other missing women. However, even then, good investigative work would take the case further then any forensic expert's consultation demonstrating probabilities and scenarios.

When thousands upon thousands of dollars are spent without thoughtful purpose, other victims are born.

Oh, and speaking of justice, have any of you ever seen the government documents listing yearly pay? Take a look at what a judge makes. I find it unsettling that so many disenfranchised people, with poverty issues, etc., stand before the average judge who makes between $200,000 to $250,000 a year.
Morning Daisybee,

I am sensing emotionality and judgement.

Fair enough.

In my experience, those who speak loudly and decidedly on the issue of, "spare no price", "there is no dollar limit on a life", are the very same people who demonstrate tunnel vision, yet stand behind closed doors when the needy come calling.

I'm just saying......
A thorough investigation is called for... and anyone talking about the expense of a thorough investigation is insulated from the crime and just does not get it. Displaying a lack of empathy and compassion in the name of self righteousness.

I can imagine this is hard enough on the young lady's family, and if this helps lead to answers that help to convict Cody for this murder and possibly others, than no stones should be left unturned... and the least we can all do is have some respect on a public forum for those effected by this crime.
I find it hard to believe that there are no people in canada with the same, or similar expertise as this person in the states.
This is my only issue with this investigation.
and if there is no one in canada capable of performing this service, my question is why?
They do not send every victim to the US for further investigation. There is a reason for this and since no one here is privy to what that may be, there is no way one can make a judgment on this. IAM - you are talking as though you know this case inside out, which I'm sure you don't, so how can you come to the conclusion that this is a waste of money? Truth is, there is more to this than we will probably ever know and it's time to just shut up and let the investigators do their job and make sure they lock up the right person or person(s) responsible.
On the news this morning: "due to the injuries sustained by the victim..." Obviously this case is not cut and dry and if proceeding with further investigation will bring in evidence to nail the bastard(s) that did this, then so be it.
IAM:
You sense judgement from me?
Yet in the next breath, you judge me to be someone who " who speaks loudly and decidedly on the issue of, "spare no price", "there is no dollar limit on a life", are the very same people who demonstrate tunnel vision, yet stand behind closed doors when the needy come calling"
I am saddened that this what your life experience has taught you. Perhaps if these are the people you have been surrounded by in your life, you should take a look at yourself and see what kind of person you are to be attracting such people.
And emotional? You betcha. A 15 year old girl was murdered. Killed. Her body left in the bushes like an animal. If that does not illicit some kind of emotional response from you, I would be seriously concerned.
Well said Thunder.
Cmdr, Rugrats,BillP,daisy,Eagle,Thunder.
Well said, sounds like compassion, common sense and good judgment.
There are sometimes very few experts for a given task in the world, let alone North America. Only hope this very sad case is helped by whatever means available.
Condolences to the family and friends.
I'm curious to know what IAM's credentials are.
The loss of a child is something I could not recover from. "Common sense and good judgement" are difficult when our children die ahead of us.

For me, the soul of a beautiful little girl has gone on. But, her physical body matters and I am unsettled having her body cut apart again.

The word "unsettled" is an understatement. We have the capacity to do toxicology, DNA, many other things here in BC, and other parts of Canada. We have the capacity to send images and so forth, to experts for consultation. It is a sad truth, that grieving parents can be convinced to do many things.


Well said Slim. I think that people would do well to keep their own council until we all know what the heck is going on. Everyone would like some answers but jumping to conclusions with little or no information is irresponsable and insensitive to everyone involved.
Some people seem to think that the case against Legebokoff is open and shut. On the basis of what we know, it isn't. All we know is that he was found turning off the logging road along which the body was found and that he had been with her earlier inthe day. That's certainly suspicious, but hardly proof that he killed her. We don't know what he said to the RCMP. Maybe he confessed or said something incriminating, maybe he didn't. If he did, it may or may not be admissible in court. We also don't know how she died. What if Legebokoff claims that her death was accidental? That could be true, or it could be a lie. Examination of the body might help to decide.

It is quite possible that we really don't have the necessary facility or expertise here in Canada. Some things are very specialized and/or newly developed. It's also possible that it is something we should have but don't because our police are behind the times. There's no way to know until we know what it is. It's a mathematical fact that, other things being equal, a specialized facility or expertise is more likely to be found in the US than here in Canada simply because the US has ten times our population. If you hold everything else constant, the country with the larger population is more likely to have instances of the extremes.
Obviously there is a need to use other resources. The RCMP did a great job in my opinion simply by pulling Legebokoff over in the first place. Bringing "financial accountability" into the equation at this point when we don't know all the facts surrounding this heartbreaking case, smacks to me of someone having another agenda. Financial accountability?? You've got to be kidding me?? and then to state "However, even then, good investigative work would take the case further then any forensic expert's consultation demonstrating probabilities and scenarios." And just how much do you think good investigative work costs? Should the cops go door to door in all 3 communities involved or send the body stateside for perhaps a more definitive conclusion than they could ever garner from boots on the ground. I sense a hidden agenda here and it rankles me. A child's death should not be used as a platform for whatever got up your crack. I commend the RCMP for how they've handled the case so far. Good job!
supertech & IAM ...The following quote could not be more fitting after reading your posts

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."

Can you not see that your comments are inappropriate and thoughtless?
IAM:
I lost my only child when he was 21. I needed someone to help me with good judgement and common sense, because as a Dad I was all over place with emotions, and its true you never recover. All you can do is pick up the pieces and go on. I was fortunate that I'm able to remember the awesome times we had. Were this my child, I would ask that everything be done to help the investigation and I would be asking a lot of questions if it was not done. The mounties are looking for the truth and I hope they get all the answers, more power to them.
Well said Slim. We don't even know what they are looking at. It could be something that is newly developed and could possibly lead to new developments in other cases. It could be technology that could prove the innocense of wrongfully charged persons. I comment the RCMP member who followed his good instincts from the start. Loren could be just another missing persons case, with no one the wiser as to what happened to her and we would have one more unknown suspect still on the loose. How many unknowns are walking among us? Could be your best friend or neighbour. If others were involved, this could be the way to tag them too, or relate them to other unsolved, to date, crimes. I say the more power to them! Lets find out as much as humanly possible about this case. It could be very valuable information, not just now but in the future too.